Intel Connected Cars will record your bad driving for posterity, take over if you're really screwing up
By Vlad Savov 
posted July 5th 2010 7:10AM
posted July 5th 2010 7:10AM
posted July 5th 2010 7:10AM
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Adapting already existing to do something that no-one wants is not good.
Get back to making chips ye scurvy sea dogs.
@cashclientel
Now when your pulled over for bad driving, you cannot lie.
Your car now knows how bad a driver is, and it's only a matter of USB connectivity or wireless access from police officers to finalize that ticket.
But wait, won't this create an entirely new way of hacking your car? Telling your car that your a "perfect" driver?
Hmm..
@uckApple
1. Why do Intel need to do this?
2. Are they ever going to produce this commercially?
3. It's the kind of project Universities do
4. It's been done before many times (as others have noted black boxes are available in Europe, admittedly without cameras and stuff, but otherwise the same monitoring telemetrics and GPS)
5. 'Self aware' cars on the roads are a generation away (and were predicted about two generations ago).
6. The original source (UK, 'Daily Telegraph') has hammed this up into more 'Big Brother' society. It's an emotive topic and that's why Intel have whipped this smart car up.
Anyway, it's obviously just a publicity stunt of some kind and a load of baloney.
@cashclientel
Were something like this to go into production, who would buy it? I'm pretty sure no one wants their insurance going up because of their self-aware robot apocalypse Chevy.
Well, I for one ride a crotch rocket just because it's one of my hobbies. Interestingly enough I'm glad this has only gone as far as this Smart Car and not on a sport bike. I just couldn't imagine what would happen if they tested it on one of those. Mass production, maybe not, but I just hate the 'Big Brother' esque type stuff that's being produced in today's world. Cool nonetheless.
Should be pretty much mandatory, given the quality of some driving I've had to contend with!
The worst culprits - lane drifters, sods who fail to stay in their own fricking lanes.
Anyone else think lane drifting is becoming pretty common nowadays?
@Heliosphan
Not too common in my area, but I've seen a few people do it.
The biggest thing in my area is not signaling and changing directions quickly without notice. There's a crash on Franklin blvd almost every week because some idiot changed lanes too quickly or pulled out of a parking lot to turn right with traffic but decided to turn left without notice.
More privacy invasion. Can't lie to insurance company anymore, it wasn't me won't work.
@Raytem
well in switzerland insurers want to put blackboxes in every car and even motorbikes
@Raytem
I was thinking the same thing, but then we're complaining about this technology being 'intrusive' (rather than 'obtrusive' as the article says)... so maybe we missed the point?
But personally, I'm much more concerned about it sharing details of my driving without my consent than taking over the wheel if it thinks I'm about to crash.
Sometimes I hate the way the world is going!
@Marko
I gave up on the world as soon as Twilight came out
@Zaeed - That bit is easy - just don't watch TV, and I don't care about it (:
But imagine pressing throttle and the car taking over control from you! FUUUUU!
And no, I never crashed a car or run anyone over!
@Marko
Imagine pressing the brake pedal and the car takes over from you... oh wait, it already does ;) This isn't so far removed from the systems we have already grown to know and love like ABS and stability control.
If a car company implements this It would be a good day to be a lawyer.
That is what the wife is for. "Uhm, honey?!!"
its the car from hell!! i like to go fast and feel g-forces around corners every once in a while, and if they record what i say when im driving, the insurance companies will deem me insane and ill be locked away in some mental institution DX
@vanwazltoff i am a very safe driver and easily get pissed off when people dont use there blinkers, you would think i have torettes every time i get pissed at someone for not using them
As long as this is voluntary I see absolutely no problem - I'd love to have all the questions answered immediately without mountains of paperwork and witnesses and then persuading an insurance company to pay out.
I drive well, so I'd volunteer for this immediately - would've saved me a lot of hassle last time someone rear-ended me after lane-drifting into the stopping distance behind me -_-
Hmmm... I can see the caveman getting offended
It's just a matter of marketing: who wouldn't want to pay _less_ for driving safely, and who would want his car to be _safer_?
*my car to me* i cannot let you do that, dave.
Someone needs to put this into a black Trans Am.
"Open the car door KITT"
"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I cannot do that."
Can't wait to get ejected outta me own car!
@b4dmash Ejected? Don't make me laugh. It'll just lock up and go back to dealer xD
Its not an invasion of privacy. Don't be dumb. Besides as I guess many people don't know that some cars already do this. The prius does for sure, just look at the bogus gas pedal claim from a few months ago. Infiniti's I know for sure record data as well (black box style but no audio or video)
If all cars had a "black box" insurance wouldn't cost as much as the car payment except for the morons that can't drive anyway. It would thin the herd for sure in a good way.
Sounds great until you realize that no matter what happens, be it you or the A.I. that as the driver, you are responsible for anything that happens with that vehicle.
Until the A.I can be held liable, I'll pass on anything like this.
Now there's an App for that, too...
This is rubbish. Why are people working on this when they could be working on hover cars?
So Its basically the Apple Computer..... of cars.
insurance company: "sir/madam, thank you for being a good driver with no accidents! but the records show you always go over posted speed limit, we have to raise your premium by 30%, that is considered risky driver"
Yeah, gonna be fun when some one claims Fifth Amendments rights against self incrimination.
I'll be the first to hack my car.
@Eli Haj
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....
Toyota has already shown that millions of lines of code kills people.
@monkey man
Bad driving has killed millions of people already. So i don't think we've proven to be any more reliable than an AI.
I mean, even at the same timeline, car accidents due to a faulty human brain clearly outweigh car accidents due to faulty electronics.
'Oh, didn't we mention that the cars can become self-aware and overrule you if you try to bend the rules of the road? Because they can.'
Perfect car for women!
For the better good usually isn't.
At least for now, I wouldn't want ANY computer to take over my car just because it "thought" I was a bad driver.
As a professional programmer, I wouldn't want to program for such vehicle just because of the sheer pressure. Imagine your car miscalculated that you were a bad driver and took over the control and still got into an accident because of that. Your insurance company won't believe you because it was the computer telling them you're a bad driver.
This is going to be a whole new generation of Toyota incident. Going way above just blaming a stuck accelerator.
Everyone seems to overlook that this information could also prove you were NOT at fault for an accident.
It also appears many people missed the "..., and upon the event of an accident,..." part.
So if I waa drunk and started driving, would it help? Please make something useful.
@Eli Haj
"Customers don't want to buy products that harm them."
Actually, these cars would help to take you out of the road before your bad driving gets yourself (and others) killed.
Anyway, i get the point. But it would've been better explained if you said: "Customers don't want a product that tells them, with irrefutable evidence, how much of a moron they are"
I'm surprised no one's said "SKYNET IS COMING!" yet.
@Eli Haj: This technology is already for sale - and yes people buy it. In this country, if you've just learn to drive at the minimum age permitted (rather than waiting until 21 say), then insurance will cost you a lot more than a car (the type of car you're likely to buy at that age).
However, if you agree to fit a tracking device and adhere to certain rules (maximum speed, curfew, etc) then you can get insurance premiums that are only stratospheric instead of utterly ridiculous.
For people who are otherwise in ludicrously high-risk groups (such as males under 21), fitting a spybox in your car is a great move if it cuts your insurance bill in half. Of course, you have to drive at legal speeds (and not in the middle of the night) but so what?
If males under 21 didn't consistently drive at 90mph through residential areas at 2am while high on drugs, this kind of thing wouldn't be necessary, but they do and it is.
Yes insurance companies make a lot of money but there's a reason why insurance can be so expensive - and if you want to prove you're not part of that reason, unfortunately devices like this might be necessary. It's not an attack on personal freedom, just a consumer option. If you want to keep your privacy, either deal with unaffordable insurance costs - or get a bicycle.
At that point just drive the entire goddamn way for me and let me read or play video games. I don't want to be involved.
@xxxsam
'If males under 21 didn't consistently drive at 90mph through residential areas at 2am while high on drugs, this kind of thing wouldn't be necessary, but they do and it is.'
Just like all women are bad drivers, old people drive slow and white-van-men are all aggressive, amirite?
Sorry I couldn't write a more engaging comment but being 20 years old I have more important things to do, like getting high and driving around my neighborhood at 90mph at 2AM.
Bitches don't know about my 2 years no claims
And when the car meets unhanded exception it does what? Crash?
Thanks but no thanks, Intel.
If all goes official, this should be a required purchase for all asians !!!