Front rendered surround sound is not a gimmick
Yes, we know what you're thinking because it is what we used to; but after some extensive testings with the latest SRS front rendered surround sound technologies, we can't call it a gimmick anymore than any other surround sound we've tried. Now that we've gotten that off our chest, we would like clarify what technologies like SRS TheaterSound and SRS TruSurround HD are; both are sound processing technologies that enhance two speaker systems, and while we won't call them a gimmick, we won't be throwing our rear speakers away just yet. That doesn't mean they don't have a place in any home theater, but if you're interested in knowing where they do fit in, well, you'll just have to click through and read the rest for that tidbit.
Psychoacoustics have fascinated us since the first time we listened to a great two channel HiFi system, we closed our eyes and could almost picture the vocals coming from the center of the room, a spot where there were no speakers to be found. So when we first heard the idea of front rendered surround sound, we might've been a little more open to the idea than others. A simple way to explain front rendered surround sound is you take multi-channel audio and process it for two speakers in a way that tricks the brain into thinking there are more than two speakers. It's kind of like a ventriloquist who can throw their voice to make it appear as if it was coming from a dummy, rather than their own mouth. So no tricking the brain in this way is not new, but applying it in the home theater is much more recent. And besides, if you think about it, all surround sound is simulated and works by tricking the brain -- you didn't think there were actually bullets flying around your room did you?
We wanted to try this technology in as many ways as we could, but what we learned was that SRS's version is only featured in sound bars and TVs -- other manufacturers do have their own flavors though. And since one speaker in our test theater is more expensive than most sound bars, and bigger than many HDTVs, it wasn't an easy thing to test comparatively. So what we did was to instead compare it to just the speakers built into TVs and sound bars, without the feature enabled. No, we don't think TV speakers or sound bars are the best way to add audio to your home theater system, but we do recognize that most people don't have the means, room, or even the desire for a big surround sound system (or they do and don't use it because of the added complexity of needing more than one remote, etc.)
The first test we did was with a new Samsung UN40C7000 LED back-lit LCD TV. This is a very stylish HDTV which means the speakers are so small you can't find 'em. The problem of course is that small speakers have almost no bass, but enabling TheaterSound seemingly extends the reach of the little speakers beyond the sides of the TV. So instead of all the audio coming from one place, it does make the sound appear as if the speakers were off to the sides. The sound does not wrap around you and to be honest doesn't really live up to the "theater sound" that the name implies. To top it off there is a very specific sweet spot of about 4-6 feet directly in front of the TV, and the volume has to be turned 3/4th of the way up to really get appreciate the affect; which pushes the speakers beyond where we'd like. Now to be fair there is only so much you can do with small TV speakers and while this might be ok for a bedroom -- you know, if the TV was at the foot of the bed -- it really wouldn't satisfy anyone who considers themselves a home theater enthusiasts. All that being said, we do prefer the sound with TheaterSound on because it sounds noticeably better. This particular TV also features modes for watching at night or for the hearing impaired and we actually found these features very useful in the bedroom setting as well.
If you haven't figured it out already, sound bars are the latest rage and for good reason; there simply isn't an easier way to get decent sound out of a simple system than adding a sound bar (what can be easier than just placing a speaker in front of a TV?) The Vizio VSB210 really gives you a better idea of what SRS technology can do. There is no mistaking this sound bar for the speakers in an HDTV and enabling TruSurround HD brings a noticeable improvement. We needed a little help with this one so we took it to our guinea pig's house since they're a big movie fan who is accustomed to watching content with TV speakers. This is a more typical scenario than most home theater fans would admit since there are plenty of reasons why people can't install a proper surround sound system. The improvement the Vizio sound bar provided over the 50-inch plasmas' internal speakers was substantial and while like the Samsung TV, you never felt like any sound was coming from behind you, your initial impression is that enabling TruSurround HD gives the sound more "depth." We did a few blind tests where we paused the movie and enabled or disabled TruSurround and were able to identify if it was enabled accurately every single time. So after watching a few of our favorite well mixed movie scenes via Blu-ray, we asked our guinea pig how much more he'd pay for the feature and answered "nothing." Not a glowing endorsement, but then we asked, "if there were two sound bars at the same price and one featured TruSurround and one didn't, which would you choose?" The quick reply was "the one with."
In the end we're disappointed we couldn't try the technology on our main pair of front home theater speakers, but we did come away with an appreciation of what it can do. We don't think our sample equipment compares to what we're used to and at no time during any of our tests did we feel like sound was coming from behind us. But all that being said, we do believe both version of SRS' front rendered surround sound technologies achieve what they set out to. So while we appreciate the technology and believe it has a place in the audio industry, we don't think it has a place in our home theater and we remain open to trying the technology on a higher caliber two-channel system.
A perspective
Psychoacoustics have fascinated us since the first time we listened to a great two channel HiFi system, we closed our eyes and could almost picture the vocals coming from the center of the room, a spot where there were no speakers to be found. So when we first heard the idea of front rendered surround sound, we might've been a little more open to the idea than others. A simple way to explain front rendered surround sound is you take multi-channel audio and process it for two speakers in a way that tricks the brain into thinking there are more than two speakers. It's kind of like a ventriloquist who can throw their voice to make it appear as if it was coming from a dummy, rather than their own mouth. So no tricking the brain in this way is not new, but applying it in the home theater is much more recent. And besides, if you think about it, all surround sound is simulated and works by tricking the brain -- you didn't think there were actually bullets flying around your room did you?
The application
We wanted to try this technology in as many ways as we could, but what we learned was that SRS's version is only featured in sound bars and TVs -- other manufacturers do have their own flavors though. And since one speaker in our test theater is more expensive than most sound bars, and bigger than many HDTVs, it wasn't an easy thing to test comparatively. So what we did was to instead compare it to just the speakers built into TVs and sound bars, without the feature enabled. No, we don't think TV speakers or sound bars are the best way to add audio to your home theater system, but we do recognize that most people don't have the means, room, or even the desire for a big surround sound system (or they do and don't use it because of the added complexity of needing more than one remote, etc.)

An HDTV featuring SRS TheaterSound
The first test we did was with a new Samsung UN40C7000 LED back-lit LCD TV. This is a very stylish HDTV which means the speakers are so small you can't find 'em. The problem of course is that small speakers have almost no bass, but enabling TheaterSound seemingly extends the reach of the little speakers beyond the sides of the TV. So instead of all the audio coming from one place, it does make the sound appear as if the speakers were off to the sides. The sound does not wrap around you and to be honest doesn't really live up to the "theater sound" that the name implies. To top it off there is a very specific sweet spot of about 4-6 feet directly in front of the TV, and the volume has to be turned 3/4th of the way up to really get appreciate the affect; which pushes the speakers beyond where we'd like. Now to be fair there is only so much you can do with small TV speakers and while this might be ok for a bedroom -- you know, if the TV was at the foot of the bed -- it really wouldn't satisfy anyone who considers themselves a home theater enthusiasts. All that being said, we do prefer the sound with TheaterSound on because it sounds noticeably better. This particular TV also features modes for watching at night or for the hearing impaired and we actually found these features very useful in the bedroom setting as well.

Vizio VSB210 with TruSurround HD
If you haven't figured it out already, sound bars are the latest rage and for good reason; there simply isn't an easier way to get decent sound out of a simple system than adding a sound bar (what can be easier than just placing a speaker in front of a TV?) The Vizio VSB210 really gives you a better idea of what SRS technology can do. There is no mistaking this sound bar for the speakers in an HDTV and enabling TruSurround HD brings a noticeable improvement. We needed a little help with this one so we took it to our guinea pig's house since they're a big movie fan who is accustomed to watching content with TV speakers. This is a more typical scenario than most home theater fans would admit since there are plenty of reasons why people can't install a proper surround sound system. The improvement the Vizio sound bar provided over the 50-inch plasmas' internal speakers was substantial and while like the Samsung TV, you never felt like any sound was coming from behind you, your initial impression is that enabling TruSurround HD gives the sound more "depth." We did a few blind tests where we paused the movie and enabled or disabled TruSurround and were able to identify if it was enabled accurately every single time. So after watching a few of our favorite well mixed movie scenes via Blu-ray, we asked our guinea pig how much more he'd pay for the feature and answered "nothing." Not a glowing endorsement, but then we asked, "if there were two sound bars at the same price and one featured TruSurround and one didn't, which would you choose?" The quick reply was "the one with."
Conclusion
In the end we're disappointed we couldn't try the technology on our main pair of front home theater speakers, but we did come away with an appreciation of what it can do. We don't think our sample equipment compares to what we're used to and at no time during any of our tests did we feel like sound was coming from behind us. But all that being said, we do believe both version of SRS' front rendered surround sound technologies achieve what they set out to. So while we appreciate the technology and believe it has a place in the audio industry, we don't think it has a place in our home theater and we remain open to trying the technology on a higher caliber two-channel system.



























Yes it is.
@Juggernaut408 This is the most insightful reply I have ever seen.
Thank you for constructive feedback we really appreciate it.
Sincerely
Engadget Team
@Juggernaut408 spot on.
@Juggernaut408
No. Just like CMSS3D and Dolby Headphone are not gimmicks. Its nowhere close to real surround though.
@Juggernaut408 Pretty much.
@Juggernaut408
This is not a bad product but let's all be honest.. there is no substitute for an actual 5.1 surround sound setup.
@Juggernaut408
This technology is starting to get better but if they really make it simulate surround there needs to be a subwoofer out on the tv so the room actually shakes when explosions and other thinngs happen
@Juggernaut408 it can work, just like a real 5.1 setup IF you have the room mapped and proper sound deflectors installed...however I've yet to see a home system that lets you do a map of the room (wall compisition, curvature, distance, etc). The thing is...for a home setup....would such an elaborate testing/setup be worth it?
Staple gunning or running 2-4 wires under a rug...is it THAT big of a deal?
@FrankDTank
At least Juggernaut408 commented about the article (under the comment section) were as your comment was about his comment, which isn't about the article.
Note: my comment about your commenting about his does not apply to this argument, but just for good measure, I agree that it is not a gimmick, they work quite well.
@Juggernaut408/
Hm... If it actually works, I might be interested in checking it out. Just for the fact that it won't be as cluttered.
However, on the pricing side... Now with a system like Z506 from Logitech (http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/speakers-audio/home-pc-speakers/devices/7191) for about $100, is it worth the money?
I mean why would I spend x2~3 more for pseudo surround sound?
@Juggernaut408 All surround sound is a gimmick. It doesn't matter how many speakers you use.
@BigD145
technically sound is a gimmick if you want to get into semantics
@Juggernaut408 all these are is an "illusion" that you have surround sound. Ill agree they are likely better than your TV speakers, and might even compete with a home theater in a box type product. But, never against a SS processor, separates or real SS receivers, and "real" speakers. AKA as the stuff you cant find at best buy.
@ruby except 7.1 :-)
Wheeerrree rrrrrr deeeeeeey!!!!!
I use a Sony RHT-G800 speaker/stand unit and very happy with it.
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/hcs-cinema-surround-kit/rht-g800
@Almo
Sony? C'mon that brand is for babies. Try Yamaha, tho one speaker costs as much as your whole home theater setup.
@Fox Con
I wanted a Yamaha but it was too rich. Went with an Onkyo HT-S5300 and I love it. The receiver is great and when I get rich, I can start swapping the 'good enough for me' speakers for fanboy-level ones.
@Almo
I have a G900, is nice and the sound is good.
@Fox Con
Sony make the only all in one front rendered surround sound system.
Sure, u can buy a real home theater system, with an Mcintosh ampli and all the rest, but for a normal living room is much better that sony.
@Fox Con
Why would I want to buy one speaker for the cost of my entire setup? Sounds daft for the average consumer. Weird logic you have there.
@Fox Con Yamaha? C'mon that brand is for babies. Try the Wilson Alexandria 2's, tho two speakers costs...well lets just say that they run six figures a pair.
@Rick James
Or a pair of speakers of linn: http://www.linn.co.uk/
Its a mind blowing experience, trust me.
"... we asked our guinea pig how much more he'd pay for the feature and answered "nothing." Not a glowing endorsement, but then we asked, "if there were two sound bars at the same price and one featured TruSurround and one didn't, which would you choose?" The quick reply was "the one with."
'Wouldn't pay for it, but would take it for free' sounds almost like the definition of a gimmick.
@midkay
...then we asked out guinea pig to try new Folger's French Vanilla Decaf without telling him that we had switched brands...
@midkay
Their guinea pig wouldn't shell out for a HT setup in the first place anyway, so why would we expect him to pay anything for a slightly inferior sound bar? The question was moot before it was asked.
You guys are all missing the main point.
Engadget has a talking guinea pig!
I've been trying to get a decent soundsystem that doesn't require speakers in the back, but this soundbars have a huge problem. They don't work very well in rooms with strange shapes (not square or rectangular) and lose some of their "virtual surround" capabilities...
Wireless spreakers are not an option because they still require power cables.
@Passarinhuu You shouldn't of bought a lighthouse. They have the same problem on the pentagon!
@jamo23 But I like the shiny moving thing... xD
In the conclusion: "but we did come away with an appreciate of what it can do."
I believe you meant "appreciation". Does Engadget edit/double check/spell check anything they post?
@NikAmi ZOMG A TYPO! NERD RAGE!
I have that Vizio sound bar in the pic and I like it. Not true surround sound but for the price it does sound good.
I'm still waiting for a reasonably priced soundbar that can decode DTS as well as Dolby to use in my bedroom. (Not worried about HD audio, just DTS.)
Any suggestions please?
PS The new Vizio in this test can NOT handle DTS soundtracks!
@thewarm
Even though the "Sony brand is for babies", I still prefer Sony's soundbars. I've used the Sony HT-CT100 and now currently use the HT-CT350. Each model include three HDMI inputs, along with one HDMI output. It also has an analog input and multiple optical/digital coax inputs. Both decode Dolby Digital (and Pro Logic II) and DTS. Hope this helps.
@Fatkid98
Thanks.
I'm really just trying to find a cheap way to decode DTS in my bedroom (so I can watch movies from my HTPC that's in another room). Right now I have to switch to speakers and disable "SP-DIF pass-through" to watch movies with DTS/AC3 soundtracks in the bedroom, and then switch back when I am in the front room (using a AV receiver for surround).
"Now you wanna get nuts?! C'mon, lets get nuts!"
@Funke Tobias Dr
Ah. Well... I attended Juilliard... I'm a graduate of the Harvard business school. I travel quite extensively. I lived through the Black Plague and had a pretty good time during that. I've seen the EXORCIST ABOUT A HUNDRED AND SIXTY-SEVEN TIMES, AND IT KEEPS GETTING FUNNIER EVERY SINGLE TIME I SEE IT... NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT YOU'RE TALKING TO A DEAD GUY... NOW WHAT DO YOU THINK? You think I'm qualified?
@btprice2001
NICE FARKING POST! *HONK HONK*
@btprice2001 Wow! It's the most interesting man in the world!.... Can I have your autograph? /s
I really want to try one of the newer soundbars. My big reason for not doing so is that I do not want yet another freaking remote to add to the collection as it is (TV, sat box, media box, and PS3). I wrote into the Vizio group and asked about one of their soundbars and was told that if I had the soundbar plugged up to a non-Vizio TV I would have to use two remotes (one for TV and one specifically for the soundbar).
Maybe I could get a learning remote or smart remote, but so far they have seemed more trouble than the benefit. Have any of you used a soundbar with a Logitech or similar multi remote?
@Jamus
I have a Sony HT-CT100 Sound Bar w/Subwoofer and a Harmony One universal remote. Work together flawlessly. You can pick up a Harmony One for about $175 on Amazon, or you can pick up the low-end remote (Harmony 300) for about $50.
The Harmony One was definitely a good investment (okay, it was a Xmas gift from my wife, but I was gonna buy one anyways) and I've been real happy with the Sony Sound Bar.
Have had the Yamaha soundbar for a few months. Works very well. For the price though you can get a lot better speakers.
I'm sure most external speaker systems will enhance the sound of TV and you certainly can get reflections, but I'll pass on the soundbar and keep my 7.1 and 5.1 systems. Enough invested already and both systems are great for music.
+1 for The Dark Knight
@Eminemdrdre00
-3 for not watching it with real surround sound.
@engadgetcomexcludeengadget
Why so SRS?
I went with the sound bar for the simple reason that in my greatroom of my new house, there was no clean way to install a surround sound system without going with flush ceiling and wall mounted units, and I wasn't interested in the expense.
You sacrifice a bit, yes, but it looks so much cleaner in a contemporary styled home, especially with the nice ueberflat Samsung on the ultra-low-profile mount (lets you hang the TV like a picture, just millimeters from the wall)
These sound bars are real surround sound as much as 3d tv is really 3d, it's not because it tricks you.