Adobe Air peer-to-peer video call concept Android app hands-on (video)
By Richard Lai 
posted July 24th 2010 3:33PM
posted July 24th 2010 3:33PM
Things are less positive for Flash availability on other mobile platforms, though. While Nokia's just waiting for a Linux SDK before it can start porting Flash apps to its devices within 2010, Adobe implied that it's still waiting for two other vendors to respond -- Palm's already been shown a Flash build running on webOS devices, and it's just a matter of the company signing up for Adobe's device certification system; RIM, on the other hand, is a bit more vague, but we were told it's definitely interested in both Air and Flash. And here's the surprise of the day: no comment on Flash for iOS (not to be confused with its digital publishing tools for the iPad), but there's no stopping you from hacking it in yourself.
Update: Adobe's Mark Doherty has sent us a statement to emphasize the industrial backing of the Air and Flash platforms for mobile. We've posted it after the break.
"Flash Player 10.1 and AIR have received a huge amount of positive industry support. All of our Open Screen Project partners have received Flash Player 10.1 and are working towards certification. We expect a wide range of platform support including Android, BlackBerry, webOS, future versions of Windows Phone, LiMo, MeeGo and Symbian OS. Delivery to consumers has already begun with Android 2.2, and we expect many more smart phones and tablets in the coming months."
Mark Doherty, platform evangelist, Adobe Systems.
Pika Pika!
flashtime
@MicrosoftOwns adobetime
@AWBrisebois
nexus one is the ugliest two-tone grey brick with a trackball ive ever seen. awkward shape, and complete with the crappiest OS of all time, android. yay it was a proof of concept made by htc, so the manufacturers like htc make better android phones! that makes a lot of sense!
When a released version of FaceTime can freeze, a concept app created in 3 days freezing is not a big deal. Flash, AIR and Android are gonna rock the app market real soon for Android. Really Excited !!
@AWBrisebois
What's awesome is watching this on an Android device, because it supports Flash :D
@MicrosoftOwns
*yawn*
you're here again?
@AWBrisebois so that's where all the N1's went.
@MicrosoftOwns
you hatin' on the sexy nexy?
yes, the n1 was the concept starter..and now ppl are creating phones based on that standard..droid inc..droid 2..droid x..evo..samsung s line..
sounds pretttty successful to me. thank you nexus one!
@metformin damn so much for Facetime being a selling point for the iPhone 4 lmao
Hmmm, funny how the guy says, "If you keep the camera still it won't transmit an image" yet as he was swinging the device side to side, it seems like it go so fast that the data couldn't be transmitted....... gg Adobe but still some ways to go I guess.
@kramer Where have you seen FaceTime freeze? I've used it dozens of times, calling people on the opposite side of the country on my very crappy DSL connection and it's been flawless every. single. time. NOTHING I have seen has come even close to the smoothness and video quality of FaceTime, including desktop video chat and lightyears above the quality you see on current Android (third party) videochat offerings.
I think you're just hating because you like to hate.
Yeah, I can see all the developers lining up and Microsoft shaking in their boots as .NET and Java are sooo toast with Adobe AIR out.... NOT!
Sorry Adobe, your outsourcing and killing of Shockwave and now Flash, which is next on its death bed is as sad as it is predictable. No body is developing for Adobe Hot AIR and all those resources that are on it would be better suited to sticking to your original product line and making it better.
Damn you Adobe! Havok brought killer game physics to Shockwave 3D and had so much potential with OpenGL and DirectX acceleration and cross platform goodness. And where is it now? And now you claim Flash 3D and P2P Video with Hot AIR? Anybody remember how popular Acrobat 3D and Video? Exactly. RIP Air.
@beast101 Get over it already
@sedo ew who wants flash.... so last century
@AWBrisebois
Flashtime versus Facetime
I know which one Pedobear would prefer -- C'mon Pedobear, show it!
@HAL2000
http://www.siliconbeat.com/2010/06/28/new-iphone-4-problem-camera-crashes-takes-down-facetime/
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=11756114
He's not hating. He's stating facts. You are the one that needs to stop hating.
Chillax haters! As Engadget wrote: the video stream froze up on several occasions, but then again Adobe's Mark Doherty only spent three days cooking this simple app..
It will ofc be much better when released.. Btw flash on froyo rocks!!
@HAL2000 You can do the same with Fring on Android phones and not only on wifi, but on 3g as well. iPhones can only use FaceTime on wifi. And the other thing is that it only works between iPhones 4. It says so right on the commercial. There is a disclaimer that says iPhone 4 required, wifi only. Hence, Android is much more flexible and usable.
@sedo
Hammertime!
@MicrosoftOwns
Even though I'm from the future; back in my day trolls didn't have to try so hard to fail humorously.
@Canizorro The camera issue was a bug in 4.0 only on some phones, and could be fixed by doing a software restore. It's since been fixed, and it never really was an issue with facetime, it was an issue with the camera software. Not even close to the same thing as this buggy POS "demo"
@metformin How are any of those phones based on the N1?
@MrAffrox
Spec wise the N1 set the bar for top of the line android phones. Now most are equal or better. I believe that is what he meant.
@AWBrisebois
Why is this suddenly a big deal? This technology has been around for years, right?
@MicrosoftOwns
?????WHERE IS THE DOWNLOAD LINK FOR THE BETA??????
The N1 users demand it stat and XDA is zilch on this topic.
DL Link please
@iqbalj It was more a proof of concept than beta, so just wait for the official version that likely isn't too far behind.
@HAL2000
Actually that has everything to do with it because it caused the problem in face time. A piece of software that had much more than three days to get polished. You admit that it was a bug that was fixed. Hence buggy ass software. By your logic, the freezing happening on this piece of software could be the same. So your argument does not hold water.
@HAL2000 it froze on steve jobs when he was demoing it at the WWDC.
@Plazmic Flame
are you serious? The app is 3 days old and he didnt even put a disconnect button on it. Of course there will be some glitches with it. As said before, Apples facetime is fully released and freezes! Adobes is 3 days old and can be used phone to phone or phone to computer. So yeah...Adobe+google = pwnage.
@iqbalj You can find the AIR2.5 beta on Adobe Labs
Mark Doherty - Adobe
@Plazmic Flame haha - yes ok it's funny, I couldn't see his phone, my computer and talk at the same time :-)
The delay is caused by settings that I used with the camera API in Flash, it's now fixed. Until this demo I had been testing on my home network.
Mark Doherty - Adobe
Go Adobe!
@angelusp
If one have a low end device, they should not use such apps. That's why there are newer more powerful version of Android devices. Don't expect a Razr to run flash, iphone 1 to run iOS4, 95yrs old grandma to complete a 10 mile marathon. People need to stop b****ing about why they can't run certain apps or have certain features. One have a phone and should be happy with whatever it can take because everything has a caps. Speaking of cap, you have 1kb of data left to reply this message :)
@angelusp
Nice grammar. I hope you become an English teacher.
P2P video on a device with no front camera...okaaay?
(I realise it's a concept for the platform as a whole, but still there are devices with a front facing camera to try it on aren't there?)
@FinKM
true, but the nexus is the baby :P
@FinKM The Nexus One is a developers phone, so course they'll use that.
But I think the HTC Evo 4G and Dell Streak have front facing cameras, thats it.
@FinKM
I Was thinking the same thing..
@FinKM ,Galaxy S, Evo 4G, Epic 4G, and Dell Streak would be great for this App
@liftedngifted1
Now, children:
If any man with dell Streak shows you some Flashtime, what should you do?!? o_0
@Phucpholuc "If any man with dell Streak shows you some Flashtime, what should you do?!? o_0'
Call the cops?
@Phucpholuc kick him in the nuts :)
Looks Terrible
That's really awesome. I am looking forward for it's release. Because apprently people on the Internet use flash. Haha
@cobraman156 Because there are 2 types of people:
1) The normal people that don't care about the used technology as long as they can watch the video or play the game.
2) The people who do care about the used technology and they don't really have a choice now huh? It's flash or no video/game.
@MaTdg Yeah, and don't even get me started on those wackos who care about stability and battery life. Nuts, m i rite?
Wow. . .I want it. WHere can I get a Nexus One? Oh yeah, that's right. Discontinued due to lack of, you know, demand. Got it.
@Perspective
i know, shame right, i mean, look at all these crap phones that have severe issues, issues such as, i dunno, say, actually holding a signal, heck or even phones that dont support the most basic of flash, and theres tonnes being sold, yet a good phone such as the nexus one isnt, man, i feel bad for being educated :(
@Perspective
It has nothing to do with demand. It was meant as a model/template by Google. Hope that puts it into "perspective".