iOS 4.1 beta 3 breaks loose (update: Game Center killed on iPhone 3G and second gen iPod touches)
By Chris Ziegler 
posted August 3rd 2010 5:55PM
posted August 3rd 2010 5:55PM
Update: Looks like there's some bad news for legacy users in this update... namely the fact that Game Center compatibility for second gen iPod touches and the iPhone 3G has been dropped. Thanks for nothing, Apple!
[Thanks to everyone who sent this in]
This changes everything...........
@liquidkernel
Not really. It has been only a week since the last revision. They probably fixed two things, made sure it worked and called it a week.
@ok old news again Got a life, right?
@liquidkernel Will this change the antenna problems, the yellow spots in the display and a screw loose inside the iphone4 ?
@liquidkernel It's magical...
@ok old news again
You're quickly becoming one of the most worthless trolls around here. There were so many ways to slam them on this issue - the update- but you're too unoriginal to even try.
@liquidkernel
Aapl sucks. Each release us a full download of almost 1/2 gig of crap. 90% of the time they break something that used to work. I don't see windows pushing out 400 Meg office tweaks every 3 weeks. Pure lazy and poor design by aapl. iTunes may be the least intuitive app and worst performing I have seen. Don't dare try and do two things at once. Poof
@liquidkernel
Again......
Antenna fix or GTFO. Nobody really cares about you getting a spot out of the carpet when the bed's on fire, Steve. STEVE.
@liquidkernel So can we now accept that fragmentation is an issue for ALL of the mobile market and not just an often selected target?
@Someguyperson
hah, yeah, the 2 things they fixed, killing game center for the iphone 3g and ipod touch...
@Peashooter13 itunes is not intuitive? do you have someone tie your shoes in the morning?
@spektricidex At the end of the day fragmentation is far worse on other platforms and I say that as a Java developer. Apple needs to stop putting out the major ios updates for older models, so when iPhone 5 comes out ios5 should be kept to just that device no download for iPhone 4 its just getting too messy, they should just put out minor updates addressing bugs and adding minor improvements. They also need separate sections in the App store for each device instead of expecting developers to make their apps universal, something which is getting harder to achieve each year
@liquidkernel Looking forward to hearing what 4.1 is gonna do, if anything besides fix bugs. I gotta say though iOS 4.0.1 is running pretty awesome on my 3GS no complaints.
@ok old news again are you just waiting to pounce on any apple post to recycle and rehash the same old material in an attempt to actually sound like you might know what you are talking about?
@liquidkernel
Well my old 3G hasn't been the same since the iOS 4.0 update anyway it's so slowwwww!
Every app fails after 10-20min so I'm retiring my iPhone 3G for a Dell Streak haha gamecenter was just a last straw
@system22 ... me thinks he is still on VELCRO! or just plain old slip ons.
@spektricidex fragmentation is a much bigger problem for android devices. Atleast i don't have to worry about when or if at all the hardware i bought 4 months ago will get the last upgrade.You can't expect apple to keep supporting 2-3 yr old hardware. My 10 yr old pc can't run vista or win dows 7.
@liquidkernel
Quick! Someone try the jailbreak!
@liquidkernel
It makes me feel all warm inside when I hear engadget speak that way about Apple.
@system22 I love apple hardware, we have an ipad, two iPhones, a mac mini, and a iPod nano. But I have to agree with the iTunes intuitive comment, it's definitely not the greatest software by any means and certainly not intuitive.
@JimmyBoy
I stopped using my iPod Touch because I refused to use iTunes any longer, I guess it runs better on a Mac but on windows it´s as bad as Flash on a Mac
* Yawn..........
@pple is poo Retention is your friend.
Any word on whether or not this version fixes that damned proximity sensor glitch? It's driving me nuts.
@Cash9007
Ditto!!
@Cash9007 people have been saying that the second beta did that
@Cash9007
Yup- that's the issue I've had too. It's obnoxious.
@Cash9007 I also read that 4.1 beta 2 was the fix but a confirmation would be a nice thing to look forward to, speaker phone is nice and all but......
@Jitaroo
I'd heard that, but there was no official confirmation in the developer forums so it's still anecdotal at this point. I finally went out and got a Jawbone Icon bluetooth headset last week because my cheek somehow managed to bring up the dialpad and unleashed a touch tone storm during a serious business call. That was all kinds of fun apologizing for.
@Cash9007
the solution is you have to go to the apple store (they are the only ones that can do this) and buy an 'approved' bluetooth headset for $200.
fixes your proximity issue.
or you can wait for steve jobs to have another friday conference where he will say that all smartphones have a proximity sensor issue and offer free bluetooth for iphones, just fill out this thing here and we'll send you one in like a month or two, maybe.
they're also going to release another version of the OS on thursday night that makes the end call button smaller, so it makes ending the call with your cheek harder.
but before they do any of that, they're going to say stop holding the phone next to your head that way.
@Cash9007 Well at Apple's last press conference they said the next release was gonna fix the proximity sensor. So I'm assuming that, yes, 4.1 will fix that iPhone 4 specific issue.
@samagon0 do you actually think you are funny?
@system22
I think he's quite funny.
Perhaps it's a bit of a dead horse but they deserve it given the usual lies, blaming the customer etc. that went on before they put their hand up to it...
@phinn you believe what is said at press conferences do you?
@samagon0
This is the kind of sarcasm that creates flamewars.
PDF exploit fix?
@marc3l They wouldn't leave the update without it.
@marc3l Read the changelog PDF for more info....
@marc3l, Jailbreakme.com does not work on any of the 4.1 beta releases, since Apple has already ported the fix to this font rendering security hole to 4.1, from OSX where it was fixed a couple months ago.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4131
@marc3l
if anyone ever says that android is worse that iOS because there are so many software updates, I'm going to laugh in their face until they complain about the onions I ate for lunch.
@grkhetan That's all I care about. I'll be holding off on the upgrade until the devteam and figure out another jailbreak. I had to live without it for the last month, now that I have it on my iPhone4 with iOS4 I'm not in a hurry to give it up.
@samagon0
wow that's pretty gross.
Beta 3 breaks support for GameCenter in the iPhone 3g and iPod touch 2G.
Isn't this what CANT happen if apple wants to push a "full platform" gaming/matchmaking system?
@impulse462
Chill out, it's a beta.
@mike260 Actually, I think this is something that *must* happen. This makes the baseline hardware that people write games for more capable, giving the motivation for more involved games. If they make it clear the the iPhone 4 hardware+ is where most GameCenter updates will go, though basic support will exist for 3GS, it will be the device targetted by new game development which will gives the games more staying power against newer generations of Nintendo handheld hardware.
@Lokitoth
sounds good in theory and I'm sure some games will take advantage of gamecenter. I develop iphone games and I can tell you right now we target ios 2 because the majority of devices all support the os 2 and up features; that means no gamecenter and I can assure you most developers will do the same thing. We have openfeint so we can easily add community, buddy lists, highscores, chatting easily. Developers target what hits the majority of customers and aren't about to kill of millions of users off from buying their app/game because Apple wants to force users to upgrade hardware. This is fragementation and the best way to deal with fragmentation is just to not add the new features in that would otherwise kill off customers. This argument is also why alot of apple fanboys trash Windows - because developers have to keep supporting legacy.
@impulse462
So...iOS is now fragmented too?
Releasing this to break the recent jailbreak I bet