HTC's dual-mode CDMA / GSM Android slider with 1.2GHz CPU headed to Verizon in 2011?
By Thomas Ricker 
posted August 7th 2010 5:43AM
posted August 7th 2010 5:43AM
posted August 7th 2010 5:43AM
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Looks pretty cool, I hope that processors dual core as that would be awesome
@nq83 Looks nice, but till 2011? Maybe its also LTE...
@nq83
Does look cool,
but androidguys' watermark is a really ugly one... ^^
@nq83. .. Android is sorely lacking Global Roaming capable devices in the US so this is a start. AT&T Captivate is the only one, and promoting Android is not high on AT&T's list for some reason.
@nq83
yeah, dual core on a fucking phone. Totall geek overkill.
No worries because HTC and the rest of that Android trash will have saturated their asses into obscurity.
@nq83 Yikes!!!! looks like a toy a 3 yr old would play with!!
@pspitts
Pshaw. Nobody will ever need any more than 24 kb of RAM, amirite?
It's called progress. Sure the geeks may only have it at first, but at the rate mobile technology is progressing, it won't be long until everyone has a dual core phone (desktop market anyone? except about 10x faster).
And that last bit made me chuckle. Could you rephrase it into a coherent sentence? Generally saturated indicates that it's EVERYWHERE. Therefore, logically impossible.
@nq83
If they are going to release on 2011 HTC should start working RIGHT NOW (not after the release) on the accessories and battery life!!!!
@hell hound
Yea, this thing is pretty damn ugly. What's the point of a dual core processor? Overkill, but a great marketing ploy for geeks who drool over USB ports.
@yankdez
low end? not if it's dual core.
BTW, weren't we promised dual cores from Nvidia and their Tegra 2 technology? I always wanted one of those but it seems like its not as groundbreaking as before.
Thoughts?
@Mike10010100 I think the point he was trying to make Mike is that there are so many different Andriods, they are spreading themselves thinner and thinner. They may need to refocus and reduce the numbers of different offerings, or at least reduce the number of companies producing the phones... their QA is starting to slip. Look at all the Galaxy phones with GPS that just does not work, its like Apple letting the iPhone out the door without noticing that antenna issue, except individual Andriods don't have the mind share that the iPhone does to overcome a setback like that.
@nq83
Of course pics don't tell much in this regard but it looks like pretty solid build quality. Could it be a modern phone that doesn't need a case to survive falls.
@yankdez They promised a 2GHz single core phone. OMAP 4 will run at 4GHz, but Snapdragon's successor is going the dual core route instead.
@pspitts
Lol, its ok buddy, your motorola razor is still a socially acceptable phone among those on engadget....if you have metro pcs as your carrier haha. Did you seriously comment that a super phone was to much on a tech blog?!? Haha, I bet your the kinda person that would get on a PETA forum and rant about how much you hate dogs lol.
@pspitts
Wow there guy...it's a phone, go hug your mother or something.
@yankdez wrote "must be a low end phone if motorola had promised 2ghz by end of 2010"
I hope this is sarcasm. Just because the CEO of Motorola said that he hopes to have 2ghz processors by the end of the year doesn't mean that there actually will be (or that he made some kind of promise). It's corporate doublespeak that came out when iPhone mania was in full swing. We'll be lucky to have 2ghz phones by the end of 2011.
@Kev007 the dual core tegras are being adopted in the tablet market more than the phone market, the notion ink adam, which i'm extremely excited for is getting one of those i believe
@Frogboy
after the CEO said that he hopes to have the phone by the end of the year, another higher up confirmed the device
heres the link so suck it
http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=6140
@Mike10010100
*chuckle* I'm still waiting for the day I come home, plug my phone into it's touchscreen and keyboard equipped docking station and try to explain to my kids what laptops and desktops were.
Of course by then.I might be having to explain what a keyboard is too :p
@nq83 Desire HD picture leaked, its coming in october.. http://www.androidcentral.com/first-htc-desire-hd-pic-leaks-out
@531m Yes, Android is solely lacking dual-mode devices right now. I only get a clean signal from Verizon, so I'm not about to jump to any other provider just for the phone. I've got my dual-mode Blackberry on VZW which is great, but I would have jumped to the latest Droid in June if it had GSM. Royally pisses me off that they haven't done it yet, actually, since it's not a huge deal to do from an engineering perspective.
@Frogboy
agreed. A 1.2 GHz processer is amazing, dual core or not. But I'd imagine it's a dual core. Personally, I think this phone is rather ugly, I know I'll probably get downranked for this. But that's beside the point. The specs that we know as of now are very impressive, I like that you can use it for CDMA and gsm. More options.
I definately think 2011 will be the year of the android. I mean, 3.0 is going to allow phone companies to innovate and just make some great phones. Something WP7 didn't really leave too much room to do, and iPhones come out once a year.
@ChargerIIC
What this ^^^^^ guy says
lol. You have no idea. I've been dreaming about that too. That is, if we don't have our computers completely in the cloud by then.
@ImSpartacus You know that OMAP4 wont even come close to 4GHz right? the OMAP4230 which will be the first chip i believed is clocked at between 1GHz-1.2GHz, and it will be a dual-core Cortex A9, not a single core.
@yankdez wait realyy!?!?!!? theyre going to have 2Ghz by then end of 2010?!?!?!?
The red in the keyboard area is so ugly.
@liftedngifted1 there's no doubt in my mind that the GSM is mislabeled LTE especially with verizon already posting shots of there 4G LTE USIM
@pspitts Whoa, so much hating for someone who lives in their parent's basement don't you think?
@nq83
I personally thought it looked a little ugly. I like the red on the keyboard but the front makes it look like it already has a phone case on it, which phone cases, to me, look ugly. Maybe if they made the boarder red like the inside it would look more asthetically pleasing and look not so thrown together.
@The Dark Knight
Htc always has red on parts of phones that aren't painted. Take off the back of any of their phones and see. This looks like the nexus 2 + keyboard - trackball
@nq83
feeling the spec sheet but not much else on this one. as a TP2 user, that keyboard looks awful. you may as well make the buttons bigger instead of wasting space. still nice to see an HTC android phone with a keyboard though either way.
@The Dark Knight
I think if Motorola came out with a fire engine red Droid. I'd be all up on that.
You said red so I got thinking about how my droid is Black and I'd rather have a different color.
@nq83
If it's a true "World Phone" you may be looking at the Nexus 2.
Dual-core would make me so happy.
@prelude1218 Verizon is on something. Just be careful you do not buy into it, unless you live in CA :)
@prelude1218
Why?
To me the single core 1GHz processors, like Snapdragon / Hummingbird / A4 are more than enough for my mobile needs, it's not like i'll be doing video editing or 3D modeling on my phone anytime soon. And the dual core will be maybe a bit faster, but we wont notice it very much while draining the battery faster.
To me it seems like the key right now is to maintain the performance found on phones like N1, Evo or iPhone4 and get the battery life to (much) more than a day.
@BogdanGC
you dont understand, increased performance allows for a better experience and deeper, more funcitonal apps. More is done with phones today than what we could do with that 528mhz qualcomm that was everywhere a year or two ago, the same will be true here.
@fel Yes, but mobile performance doesn't count for much when you have to keep Your phone plugged in because it can only run for a few hours at a time. There needs to be a balance. It'll be very interesting what kind of battery life these faster processors get.
@Hellpop
who know, but I think theyll get the same or very close to current devices. Thats part of the point of smaller manufacturing processes, reduce power consumption (and size and cost).
@fel
I understand what you're sayin' but when is enough power, to much power? At the end of the day, a phone is still...well, a phone. What more functionality would you want to add to it, and at what cost? You can only do so much w/ a device that size. I would trade in 1.2GHz for 1GHz if it means an extra hour or 2 in battery life. Plus, w/the hardware of some of the high-end phones out today plus the tweaking of the OS, phones are amazingly fast.
@BogdanGC At least in the cellular realm, faster processors also mean longer battery life. As the chips use smaller and smaller manufacturing processes (the 45nm of the Hummingbird as opposed to the 65nm of the current Snapdragon), then get more efficient as well. The thing to remember is that a more powerful chip does not mean it is draining more battery, since the same task takes less time to complete. Burst beats sustained use in battery life.
Besides, it's the displays that such ~70% or so of the battery. That's where smaller is better
Fun fact, dudes - by far the biggest battery drain is the display on any phone, not the processor (because it spends the vast majority of it's time in a sleep state, unless you're pegging it at 100% with an emulator or something). I can get about 4 days worth of battery life out of my Samsung Captivate if I keep the screen brightness at around 10% with a black background with average use.
A dual core cpu wouldn't drain any more power than a single core (and you wouldn't really see an advantage in most apps either). Like a single core, the dual core would spend the vast majority of it's time in a sleep state with average use, and unless Android is modified to automatically share the load between both cores, chances are pretty high that the vast majority of the applications (single process, single thread) wouldn't use the 2nd core anyway.
@EagleyeSmith
I wouldn't haha Id just get an extended battery... :/
@Ginormous
You can clearly see the screen is way smaller than 4.3 look at the evo and then that one. I highly doubt that it is it.
Hopefully they'll get a decent battery life for that beast.
@OlliX
Hopefully it runs cooler and gets better battery life than my Incredible
I'm not really interested in these insane phones if they run hot and get terrible battery life.
Can't say I'm liking the look of that keyboard.
@Tes
If only the keys were bigger :O. There's a massive amount of space between the ends of the keyboard, but considering this phone isn't due till 11', I think that could be modified. Still liking the phone, and it definitely looks like there's gonna be a dual core 1.2ghz snapdragon inside. GO HTC! (But where's 2.2 for my Incredible D:
@Tes Same here. If that's the future keyboards I'm good with my evo
@Tes
Looks like the Vision is still top of my list. Theres something wrong about that kboard.