Google and Verizon's net neutrality proposal explained

What's interesting is that the announcement comes just few days after the FCC declared its closed-door net-neutrality meetings with ISPs and other interested parties to be dead -- it's odd for Google and Verizon to claim their new proposal is just an extension of their joint statement in general support of net neutrality from last October when it's very clearly an articulation of a specific plan that was undoubtedly proposed and rejected during those failed meetings.
Now, we don't know for sure what happened, but we've got a theory: the proposal reads to us like Verizon's basically agreeing to trade neutrality on its wired networks for the right to control its wireless network any way it wants -- apart from requiring wireless carriers and ISPs to be "transparent" about network management, none of the neutrality principles that govern wired networks will apply to wireless networks. That's a big deal -- it's pretty obvious that wireless broadband will be the defining access technology for the next generation of devices and services. But you know us, and we don't do hysterics when we can do reasoned analysis instead -- so grab a copy of the official Verizon / Google Legislative Framework Proposal right here and let's break it down step by step, shall we?
So, first things first: Google and Verizon were adamant that this plan is not a formal business deal between their companies -- it's just a policy proposal they're suggesting to the FCC. That said, Verizon's already committed to following the rules of the plan, and Google CEO Eric Schmidt repeatedly said on the call that Google would never pay for prioritized access and Google products would remain on the public internet. That's important, because it sets up check and balances between two companies: if Verizon does something to its network that affects the public internet, Google will be sure to notice, and no one wants an angry Google. Those are just the baseline promises, though, and they only affect Verizon's network. For this to really mean anything, the FCC will have to adopt these rules as law. That's important to remember -- this is just the framework Google and Verizon want, and they're announcing it and agreeing to live by it in the meantime in order to give it some momentum. It's still up the FCC to actually implement the suggestions, which are as follows -- there's actually nine, if you count them all:
Consumer protection. Under the Google / Verizon plan, wired ISPs will be prohibited from blocking any lawful traffic their customers want to send regardless of application or service, and they'll have to allow customers to connect any legal devices that don't harm the network or other users.
Non-discrimination. This is one of the big ones -- it prohibits wired ISPs from discriminating against any traffic or content in a way that harms competition or users. Any sort of traffic prioritization is automatically presumed to violate this rule, but ISPs will be able to argue some exceptions.
Transparency. Google and Verizon are making a big deal out of this one, since it's the only one that applies to wireless networks as well -- ISPs and carriers will have to "disclose accurate and relevant information in plain language" about what their networks are capable of, how they're managing them, and what their plans are. That means if Verizon wants to block BitTorrent on its 3G network (for example), it'll have to come out and say so. The idea is for consumers to know what is and isn't allowed on each network -- that way they can choose ISPs with a full set of facts. We're not sure network management practices will factor into consumer preferences for wireless carriers the same way as devices, speed and reliability do -- in fact, we're pretty sure most people will just ignore them and just pick the phone they want -- but this is apparently all Verizon's willing to give up when it comes to its mobile network.
Network management. This goes hand-in-hand with transparency -- ISPs and carriers are allowed to engage in any "technically sound" network management practices to reduce congestion, ensure security, address harmful traffic, ensure service quality, prioritize general classes of traffic, and simply go about the daily business of operating their networks. These are important carve-outs, and they represent an important compromise: ISPs have to be generally open with their networks, but they're also allowed to manage them in order to provide the best service -- as long as they're transparent about their management practices. Sounds about right to us.
Additional online services. This is a going to be one of the more controversial element of the plan, as far as we can tell. It says that carriers and ISPs can offer other, non-internet services to subscribers, as long as they're "distinguishable in scope and purpose" from regular internet access. That doesn't mean they have to be totally separate -- these other services could make use of internet content -- but customers would have to know the difference. That means Verizon could offer a second network just for certain types of content -- CEO Ivan Seidenberg mentioned 3D as one example -- and charge customers extra. Is this a good idea? We'd find out over time: the plan calls for the FCC to evaluate the effects of alternative networks annually and immediately report if these services threaten the regular internet or have are being used to evade the rest of the net neutrality provisions.
Wireless broadband. Possibly the most important provision of the entire agreement, and the biggest compromise. Under Verizon and Google's plan, wireless networks would be excused from every provision except the transparency requirement. Why? Because of the "unique technical and operational characteristics of wireless networks," of course. Or... perhaps because Google has an interest in allowing Verizon to do whatever it wants with traffic on its Android-dominated wireless network. Either way, it's hard to reconcile the stated need for net neutrality in this agreement with a giant exception for wireless networks, which are quickly becoming the most important networks of all. We'll have to see how the fight over this provision shakes out.
Case-by-case enforcement. An interesting provision that basically guts FCC's power to properly enforce the proposal, as far as we can tell. It says the FCC can enforce the consumer protection and non-discrimination provisions, but it can't make any further rules building on those provisions, and conflicts would be decided using "non-governmental dispute resolution processes" which would take precedence over the FCC. What's more, the maximum fine the FCC could level would be just $2m -- chump change for major carriers.
Regulatory authority. Take with one hand, and give back with another -- this provision restores the FCC's authority to regulate the internet that was taken away by the Comcast case. On a fine level, this splits up authority over access and content -- the FCC has the power to regulate broadband access, but it can't say anything about content.
Broadband access for Americans. This provision basically says the Universal Service Fee most of us pay on our phone bills should be used to build broadband networks in addition to phone lines -- we don't know anyone who disagrees.
So that's the plan -- it's actually more or less the status quo in many ways, if you think about it. But the thing about the status quo is that it's not enshrined as formal policy -- adopting this plan would officially mean that wireless networks aren't subject to net neutrality, and that the FCC would have very little power to change that over time. That's a huge compromise, and it's obviously not one the FCC's taking quietly: in a statement today, an agency commissioner said that the proposal had "many problems," and that it was time to "reassert FCC authority over broadband telecommunications, to guarantee an open Internet now and forever." Sounds to us like the real fight's just about to get started -- and keep in mind, we haven't heard anything substantive from other major players like Comcast, AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile yet. Buckle up -- it's gonna get nerdy.






















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@ramia what does that even mean? First post garble?
@ramia Wtf? Did you even read the article? Of course not, you just wanted to post any nonsense so you could be first.
@ArcticWolf You may dispense with the hostilities, I'm just persuading to come to the darkside at the moment
*him. The Rebels will pay for sabotaging my comments
@ramia Fuck both of them Google and Verizon.
@Sea Urchin
They are pretty much right on Status Quo and you say fuck them?
After reading it I am pretty convinced that this is a good thing. Sure the Wireless thing is a bit controversial, however, I too am not for Net Neutrality on the wireless spectrum. But I'm pretty sure this is exactly what most people wanted out of this bill, why are we bitching?
@Sea Urchin
Big Red and Big Brother spearheading "net neutrality"? May God save us.
@bravokiloromeo
Please tell me that just because you used the word Big twice, they are now considered bad companies.
Big red means nothing.
Big brother has no real basis beyond what every site does regarding data. Facebook does it just as much.
@Darkroom
lololololol
@Darkroom Here's me force choking Steve Jobs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S6RgSpnb0w
@bravokiloromeo What does chewing gum and bad unscripted television programming have to do with this?
@corylulu
Who the hell are you!
What do you mean this is what we wanted? I didn't even know what was happening you lemming!
Verizon and Google have crafted shit so they can bank big money from the consumer. All that jargon they wrote has the devil in the details and if you can't decipher it then you're fucked right up the ass homeboy!
There was nothing wrong with me surfing the net before but since Google and Verizon have to get that stock up they'll do anything and I mean anything they can to do it.
One more thing, this topic is beyond the scope for most of you so-called techies. Go root your fucking Android EVO!
@pspitts
Okay, Mr. Techie,
DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS DOES?
Didn't think so. Stop Google hating for no real reason and start coming back here with some actual facts.
Net Neutrality is not a new thing and was never originally their idea, they only backed it before. But unlike some companies (Apple and Microsoft) not every company is focused more on there temporary stock prices over their long term evolution
Google makes money out of openness, they expand the market so they can make more money off the expansion of it. This helps everyone involved; Google sells more ads, advertisers get their products more out there, and customers get to enjoy a huge variety of free services.
@corylulu
Verizon Wireless (errr, just Verizon?) is referred to as Big Red namely due to the fact that it is the largest cell phone provider (by # of subscribers) in the US, and their primary color is red. Enough said.
Google is so ingrained into programs these days that they most likely have most of your personal information, and use their site-tracking to use that information against you (e.g. getting ads targeted towards websites you go to or where you're located). Facebook only tracks the things you do on their site and partner sites, but not necessarily ALL websites or things you search for on the web.
With these two drawing up a proposal that could attract millions more customers, there could be some cause for concern. It all sounds good on paper, just like communism did in Eastern Europe/Asia, but until it is implemented will we really understand the full scope of these new guidelines (Disclaimer: NOT comparing VZW/Google to communism in any way; providing relevant analogy).
@bravokiloromeo
"Google is so ingrained into programs these days that they most likely have most of your personal information, and use their site-tracking to use that information against you (e.g. getting ads targeted towards websites you go to or where you're located)."
Why is this a bad thing? What the hell do you think is considered "your personal information". Do you think that they are hiring people to follow you around and become friends with you solely to figure out what you like and sell ad space? No.
Targeted ads are NOT A BAD THING. It's more efficient than some guy having 20 ads about Victoria Secrets.
@corylulu
Regarding the wireless network issue, consider it this way: Every phone call is VOIP. Therefore, in a high-congestion or crisis situation where tons of people are on their phones at once, resources must be devoted more towards VOIP and less regular data. The wired internet both doesn't incur this strain and is not used in the way that wireless internet is used.
Wired internet doesn't suddenly have thousands more people suddenly move into an area, putting increased strain on the network. Wireless does. That "openness" does need to be in there, though, as currently these companies can change your service without notifying you (if you agreed to it in the TOS).
@Mike10010100
Well I agree that there are some practice purposes for this too, but I don't think that is the case because not every phone is VoIP, actually VoIP is stuff like Skype and FaceTime, however there are some VoIP phones that have a duel mode with a regular cellular radio and a Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g) radio which you could use with stuff like HotSpot@Home.
Regardless, I really want to know what real disadvantages you guys see here? Where is the customer really losing practice power? is it the fact that they aren't regulating mobile yet? Because thats more due to status quo than anything else.
@corylulu
Nononono. You don't understand. The phone LITERALLY carries the call as DATA. That's why it's DIGITAL instead of ANALOG. This is considered VOIP, and thus must be able to be prioritized when the network gets overloaded in a particular location.
(Hint: I agree with you. I do think that there needs to be a hole left for future legislation regarding not filtering or prioritizing web data that IS NOT phone calls. But otherwise, this is an excellent step forward and I think everyone just wants to hate it just to hate it. AKA Derp government is bad derp. They don't need to be regulating things derp.)
http://i.imgur.com/sDkuZ.jpg
@ramia
I love how just a few days ago, Google denined even talking to Verizon and today both Google and Verizon is trying to help "protect" net neutrality.
@corylulu
I don't know what kind of guy you are, but getting 20 Victoria's Secret ads would be TONS better than getting 20 about (unnecessary) penis enlargement.
@Mike10010100
No, I do understand. Cell phones are still on radio. Look it up. VoIP is only used on skype calls.
http://communication.howstuffworks.com/ip-telephony9.htm
@bravokiloromeo
Google doesn't post sensitive targetting ads. Look it up.
If you are getting Penis Enlargement ads, its not from Google. Nice try tho.
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
@corylulu
I'm talking about the backbone. Yes, cell phones use radios to communicate to towers, but it uses that same method to transfer data. Once both data and phone call get to the tower, it's routed via VOIP to the appropriate destination. Since both data and cell phone calling use the same type of data transfer, wireless companies have to be able to distinguish between phones trying to connect to data and those who are trying to make/receive a phone call.
I think we're understanding the same thing, but there's a slight miscommunication lol.
@MikeyMike01
You're kidding me, right?
When the FCC was trying to come up with rules by themselves, people said OMG GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION! Then, when companies themselves work to keep the internet a dumb pipe, people say OMG BEND OVER AND TAKE IT FROM THE CORPORATIONS!
Do tell us the solution then. Tell us how companies can be regulated without either the government or the companies themselves.
@corylulu
It was a joke dude. Relax. Don't take stuff on the internet so seriously.
@ramia
"rule the air", Verizon. Hmmm...
@ramia I know this is an american site and all but you all seem to be talking quite "globally". Does this in anyway affect the rest of the world??
@ramia
GOOGLE wants a closed network. How ironic!
@Steve Jobs Clone
They didn't deny talking to Verizon. Atleast not a few days ago.
They denied selling out on Net Neutrality what in my opinion they are doing right now.
This proposal has too many loopholes.
* ISPs can't block legal content. What's legal? Is Wikileaks still legal?
* ISP's can't discriminate network traffic but can "argue some exceptions"
* Fine of violation of this is a measly 2 million dollar.
* Wireless traffic won't be regulated because of "technical difficulties". Why exactly? And for how long won't it be regulated?
This thing does more bad than good. It allows ISPs to utilize the loopholes in this proposal and at the same time hide behind it under the cover of "We support net neutrality!".
I have usually supported Google. I never made a big deal about their privacy policy but this proposal is just wrong.
@corylulu
Lord, do you ever get sarcastic remarks? :|
@Lord Vader Impressive, most impressive.
Dodgy territory :(. I would have thought google would have been more responsible about this
@dagetz
Taking a page from Apple's definition of "openness"... ie, only to the extent that it suits them, and in a way that they control.
@ctmike78
Please enlighten us on how they doing us as a consumer wrong? Seems that every point they are making is in the interest of the consumer. I would worry more about your carriers/companies that don't want to discuss their plans and rule you with an iron fist.
@iPhooey They haven't done anything wrong yet. But the possiblity for wrong doing in the future has just been made HUGE. While there will always be a place in the world for wired internet (it will always be faster). The future of computing is wimax and LTE, ie -> wireless. This deal is the wireless providers attempting to leave themselves MUCH more flexibility so they don't end up in the same situation as the wired networks did, that they dont have the power to control the content that they distribute as an ISP. This means that in future if this deal goes unchallenged that it is almost a certainity that consumers will NOT have access to the full internet on wireless providers.
@dagetz
The point is they are disclosing their proposal upfront are part of their move for companies to be transparent with their actions (which happens to also be in their proposal). Although I get the "fear" part in what they are stating because it's all still very conceptual (with a lot of doublespeak), I applaud the fact that they are disclosing their intentions unlike other carriers / companies. Like the author states, AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile have no choice now but to weigh in on this discussion and we shall see then if the hate is evenly dispersed.
@iPhooey Just because they are being open doesn't make what they are doing right. I agree it makes it better but it really doesn't make it right. Also for verizon to have such a huge name such as google backing them its gonna start companies trying to put more restrictions on their networks. Like I said it is a very dodgy road that Google are taking us down and I would have hoped that Google would have been more responsible and concerned about their consumers then this.
@iPhooey
They're doing the consumer wrong because they're trying to use government to regulate a private industry in such a way that suits their particular needs. This will lead to higher costs, and have unanticipated consequences.
Part of the reason that ISP's are able to give us the prices that they currently are is because they practice bandwidth discrimination. They will just pass on the costs incurred by net neutrality regulation to the consumer.
Also, this is a pretty obvious trojan horse for government to get control of the internet. Being able to regulate how ISP's conduct their business will no doubt lead to more regulation. Look at what government has done to the healthcare, housing, and education industries, all industries which have been heavily regulated or subsidized and essentially crippled in the past 50 years. That's hardly the direction we need to take the internet in.
I prefer the free and affordable internet that the market currently provides me. Net neutrality will only hurt that.
@cbiscuit
"They're doing the consumer wrong because they're trying to use government to regulate a private industry in such a way that suits their particular needs. This will lead to higher costs, and have unanticipated consequences."
You're saying that doing something could make bad things happen? Yeah, I think that's true for everything in life. Unless you can specify, that's just a bogeyman tactic.
"Part of the reason that ISP's are able to give us the prices that they currently are is because they practice bandwidth discrimination. They will just pass on the costs incurred by net neutrality regulation to the consumer."
Most ISPs DO NOT practice bandwidth discrimination. People noticed when Comcast did because it was very much slower. This legislation keeps it so that the ISPs cannot throttle and discriminate based on so-called "illegal" data. The internet must continue being a dumb pipe.
"Also, this is a pretty obvious trojan horse for government to get control of the internet. Being able to regulate how ISP's conduct their business will no doubt lead to more regulation."
Slippery slope argument. Logical fallacy, thus thrown out the window.
"Look at what government has done to the healthcare, housing, and education industries, all industries which have been heavily regulated or subsidized and essentially crippled in the past 50 years. That's hardly the direction we need to take the internet in. "
Housing was deregulated before the bubble burst. It was the fact that nobody was being held accountable for their actions with less regulation that led to the sub-prime mortgage crisis. This entire bubble was caused by UNREGULATED capitalism. Don't go blaming this on regulation.
"I prefer the free and affordable internet that the market currently provides me. Net neutrality will only hurt that."
You prefer the internet where it's totally legal for private companies to purchase slots with the ISPs that make their data load faster than others, thus pushing out other companies? The internet must continue to be a dumb pipe, and that's just what this legislation is.
On a separate note regarding the wireless network issue, consider it this way: Every phone call is VOIP. Therefore, in a high-congestion or crisis situation where tons of people are on their phones at once, resources must be devoted more towards VOIP and less regular data. The wired internet both doesn't incur this strain and is not used in the way that wireless internet is used.
@cbiscuit What on Earth are you talking about? Either you work for an ISP or you've been reading the Wall Street Journal a little too much. Net Neutrality is good for consumers, no questions asked. Good government regulation is required to keep industries from damaging consumers, ie financial depression/BP oil spill.
@cbiscuit
Government regulation is bad derp. That's why they don't regulate lead based paints and the food we eat for quality assurance derp.
@iPhooey
Basically what they're doing is attempting to force regulation which would leave them various loopholes and low fines in order to allow the established Internet entities to stay in power($2m is nothing to Google), while creating large barriers(bandwidth, fines of $2m are a lot to startups) to stifle anyone from creating the next youtube, slacker radio, pitchfork.tv, or any other high bandwidth site without a large amount of bureaucracy(quarterly FCC meetings and then the further say of a group of corporations) while also taking away the governance of the FCC and putting legislative power into the hands of large companies like Google and Verizon.
The end goal is to keep an oligopoly of Verizon, Google, AT&T, Microsoft, Etc. at the forefront of the internet while preventing upstarts like last.fm, pandora, various video sites, etc from starting up with a decent headway or even knowledge that their site will be allowed to remain once it grows to a size that the 'Internet council' doesn't like.
@dagetz Seriously. I usually love Google, but there are some definite shenanigans going on here. I'm glad that the FCC came back with "F*ck you guys, we're the FCC, b*tches" I'm glad that they actually kinda do want to look out for us, the consumers (voters/citizens/whatever)
@iPhooey
I never claimed consumers were being harmed, but make no mistake - Google and Verizon are looking out for *their* interests, not ours. Their interest is to make money. Google wants to sell as many ads as possible; that's clear. I'd suspect that "new services" means "new advertising opportunities" for Google - they are trying to lay the groundwork to dominate what's next, and not just what's right now.
As for Verizon, they are doing everything in their power not to become a "dumb pipe"... even though I think there are quite a few people who would be just fine with that. A year or two from now, I'd love to cancel my home phone and internet, and just rely on the LTE data that will be available through my cell phone. Heck, all you will really need is LTE data, no need for traditional cell minute plans, either. This future does not make Verizon, nor it's shareholders happy.
That said, I use plenty of Google services and was a happy Verizon customer for years... what are you gonna do.
@iPhooey It's amazing isn't it? I watch companies bend over the consumer everyday and the consumer smiles and asks for more. Out of the blue a couple of companies does something that while it still keeps their profits in line actually lines up with the interests of the consumer and all of a sudden people are skeptical.
Look folk nobody is saying that the companies aren't in it for themsleves. But this is a step in a good direction for the consumer and actually democracy as a whole but most people haven't thought anywhere close to that far down the line unfortunately. But anyone that's paid attention to Google knows they drive the market not by trying to lock out but by trying to open up more people to ride on theory services. For instance they need html 5 to advance theory services. They could have just put out a locked down Chrome and locked you into using it by progressively requiring it for their services. But instead they try to push everyone to adopt open standards and then compete on merit. Meanwhile the people complaining are on an OS that they could barely get off of if they wanted to because of a company that they actually need to watch closely but instead cheer them on for locking you down.
@dagetz
My name is porkchop flavored cupcake, and I approve of your message
However, Google did not approve and by 8am tomorrow morning they will remove it.
@Blaque14K
Hmm .. I see you enjoy being bend over and f... Do you read the article? It will exclude wireless vendor from net neutrality. I see how much your love to google so you probably dont mind to give them your soul but most people wont. By the way, Chrome is a browser based OS and who do you think it benefits?
@bobbyk18 I didn't read anywhere in these proposals that individual websites were now going to start getting slapped with 2m fines. Carriers and ISPs will, not websites. Also, ISP and wireless are already INCREDIBLY prohibitive to startups anyway, since you need a massive and costly infrastructure to make any money at all. Also, these proposals would help startup companies! Thats the point of net neutrality, a new company won't get its bandwidth squeezed by google or other major websites.
These proposals are certainly a mixed bag, more FCC control with bigger fines and a plan for wireless carriers to remain neutral with some ability to prioritize basic connectivity (voice, txts, email) over media would be welcome.
@dagetz Agreed. Excluding wireless networks from this provision is a loophole you could drive a truck through. It's also amusing that Googerizon is asking the FCC to accept a regulatory framework that removes their rule making power.
This whole things reeks of fascism to me. The government needs to issue the net neutrality rule on the corporations, not the other way around.