Oracle sues Google over Java patent infringement in Android
By Nilay Patel 
posted August 12th 2010 9:38PM
posted August 12th 2010 9:38PM
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Java is in everything - Oracle was aware of this when it bought Sun, pretty obvious they want a piece of that everything that everybody else is dieing to get into - the smartphone market or the internet business.
I'm sure people/lawyers will spend hours looking over the original licences from Sun covering the open source/free versions of Java both for private and commercial release, including how the rights to those licences changed when Sun was bought by Oracle.
And what about everybody else who uses Java - such as M$ and Apple$, IBM, possibly the entire Software industry on a global level is using a variant of Java - originally developed by Sun.
I just hope the courts throw it out.
Go ahead and laugh...but MSFT will gain market share with WP7 platform.
@bufbarnaby
They have 5 percent now... seriously, chill out... Don't get cocky.. they can totally suck with no Apps.. and a 2007 featureset.
@bufbarnaby
So Android and WP7 squarely head to head. Who wins?
@Wesscoast 13% actually.
@HighestRanked1
"So Android and WP7 squarely head to head. Who wins?"
Whoever wins, Apple (not we) lose.
WP7 FTW!
@bufbarnaby
WP7? U think?
WP7 and Android will have to compete for the limited resources of 3rd party hardware phone builders. Including HTC, Motorola, Sony, and the like.
@HighestRanked1
Are you going to tell us Apple doesn't have "limited resources"? If not, what's your point? (if you had one)
Why doesn't Google just buy Oracle.
@jdawggey
Maybe Oracle should buy Google
SPJ probably is trying to derail Android after it passed RIM and IOS in market share.
After all he is friends with Larry.
@bufbarnaby
IPhone has twice the market share of Android. Q2 2010 only means Android sold more in Q2, that's it.
@HighestRanked1
Just like outselling the iPhone by 2 million phones last quarter (including the iPhones 3 weeks of pre-sale/opening weekend)...Android will keep eating that iPhone installed-based lead. That's just the way it is. Anbody can see that.
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Man if you aren't selling your Oracle shares now then you might just be a half-dozen beers short of a picnic.... or something like that...
Wow, that Google CEO Eric Schmidt really made the rounds. Oracle, Apple, what other companies let this guy in the front door to steal their technology?
Superman's mom has designed the logo on his cape. Nothing wrong with that.
Time for android to ditch java. Since android apps do not really run anywhere but in the walled garden of anroid, the choice of Java, which is meant for portability across OS and platforms, is totally pointless.
@LSE google guys was talking about easy convertable android code to google wave platform
@engaged typo s/google wave/google chrome os/
Bad move Oracle.
@ashwinkn I hope Google kicks the crap out of Oracle/Ellison...legally speaking , of course.
I am afraid that Oracle is not going to win here. Google is using the Dalvik JVM. And they haven't claimed to be Java compliant anywhere. So Oracle's argument won't fly. I wish they did they. It would shut up the annoying Android haters. Alas it won't.
OK.... fandroids. Since you are so focussed on market share growth of one company vs the rest of the world.... Name one company which is doing better than Apple financially in the smart phone space?
@JojoMojo RIM, Symbian, just to name a couple.
I always hated Larry because he openly hated Bill Gates in the press for years.
Now I hate Larry Spellman even more.
Bill Gates and the Gates Foundation have done more for the poor and impoverished than any one human on the planet.
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/Pages/home.aspx
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Oracle hasn`t a leg to stand on...
The Dalvik virtual machine is a register-based virtual machine, designed and written by Dan Bornstein with contributions from other Google engineers as part of the Android mobile phone platform.
It is optimized for low memory requirements, and is designed to allow multiple VM instances to run at once, relying on the underlying operating system for process isolation, memory management and threading support. Dalvik is often referred to as a Java Virtual Machine, but this is not strictly accurate, as the bytecode on which it operates is not Java bytecode. Instead, a tool named dx, included in the Android SDK, transforms the Java Class files of Java classes compiled by a regular Java compiler into another class file format (the .dex format).
Google never said Android was a "Java compliant" platform.
Android does not use Java bytecode.
Oracle is grasping at straws here.
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Years ago to sidestep Sun , MSFT developed it`s own JVM...
Sun was not able to sue them for that , though MSFT later developed it`s own .NET language.
What Android does essentially is use a VM , which transforms code.
Just like MSFT JVM of the past.
Oracle has no recourse here.
@bufbarnaby actually Sun filed an antitrust case against MSFT which eventually MSFT settled for $20M
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Oracle...go pound sand.
The bytecode on which it (Android) operates is not Java bytecode.
Oh, and here is Google's official response. Located here = http://phandroid.com/2010/08/13/google-responds-to-oracle-patent-infringement-claims/
Google it's a robber, Google between 10 years is the specialist for stolen content : newspapers, books, archive torrent vidéo, music....Android is same, stole your content, GPS localisation, read your mail, contact, ...propose contextual advertising..
If you like that choose Android.
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