Editorial: Waiter, there's a Nazi theme in my Android Market (updated)
Earlier tonight our friend Michael Gartenberg tweeted that when he went to the Android Market to search for the word "Jewish," a number of Nazi and Hitler themes turned up. Of course, we had to take a look for ourselves, and sure enough, the search for a fairly innocuous word related to a religion and culture turns up skins which are disgustingly, hatefully pro-Nazism and pro-Hitler. That's a problem, no matter how you look at this.
In the past, we've railed against Apple for its confusing, unfair, and often absurd App Store policies, particularly when it comes to the policing of applications based on content, not code. Steve Jobs has made a point during press conferences to say that the Android Market allows porn apps -- which of course set off a furious debate. Sadly, what Jobs should have pointed out was that the Market allows something far more insidious and damaging than even the hardest-core pornography -- apps that spread hate and propagate the views of a movement that is pretty much universally reviled.
And here's where we have to take a hard look at what censorship really means, and what kind of role it can (and clearly should) play in the new frontier of app marketplaces on mobile devices (and elsewhere). Let's be clear about this right off the bat -- an app store isn't the internet. It's not a free-for-all, it's not an open venue where any type of wares might be hawked. The whole point of these app portals is to provide a controlled service to your users that has guidelines and rules that make getting software onto your phone relatively easy and safe. Whether or not you have stringent policies for what you'll accept (Apple), or few (Google), no one should pretend that this isn't a siloed service that must have rails to operate.
So the question becomes: what are your limits? If you say absolutely no censorship, does it apply to hate-speak? If you say yes to porn, does it mean yes to Hitler themes that appear when you search for seemingly unrelated terms? Does being open mean accepting everything? Or do we have to set some reasonable limits for what we will and won't tolerate?
Think of it this way: app stores are kind of like privately owned bookstores. The owner of the bookstore doesn't have to carry the art book of nudes or the pro-Nazi thesis. In most situations, it doesn't have to carry everything because there are plenty of other places to get those books. That concept is especially true for Android -- users can sideload any applications they want onto their devices. No one is going to tell you that you can't install a Nazi theme on your phone, but we're pretty sure that Google shouldn't make it so easy, and it shouldn't subject a large portion of its users to content that rightfully deserves to sit on the fringes, not in the center.
So ultimately, what's the answer? While tapping out my thoughts on the matter, it seemed painfully clear how difficult of a question this really is. But the part that's confusing is the part that's essentially a lie -- that keeping certain pieces of content out of systems like the App Store or the Android Market equates to censorship... because it doesn't. As I said above, these portals aren't the whole world, they're not the internet -- hell, most people don't even have smartphones that they download applications onto. These are closed systems for specific uses, and something tells me that the people who built these systems don't really want to see them used to distribute Nazi themes. A follow-up tweet from Gartenberg stating that the company is "upset" by the experience and that the apps in question are in violation of its terms of service seems to confirm that.
I don't have the final word on this, and maybe there really isn't a final word to have. I know in my gut that Google doesn't want to be the place to go for all your Nazi needs, but I also know that there's a serious gray area when it comes to the hows and whys of choosing what you will and won't offer to users. In the end, a little common sense goes a long way, and if the Apples and Googles of the world can't find a middle ground that's fair, we're in for a messy, bumpy ride.
Update: Google has apparently pulled the themes due to "a violation of Android content policy."
Update 2: As PC Magazine points out, and as you can plainly read in Android's Content Policy for Developers, Google forbids content in the Market which involves "promotions of hate or incitement of violence," and (free speech-defying as it may seem) "pornography, obscenity, nudity or sexual activity." From where we stand, it looks like this is more an issue of Google's willingness to police its Market than it is about censorship -- Google definitely has rules about what it will and won't allow in its store.
In the past, we've railed against Apple for its confusing, unfair, and often absurd App Store policies, particularly when it comes to the policing of applications based on content, not code. Steve Jobs has made a point during press conferences to say that the Android Market allows porn apps -- which of course set off a furious debate. Sadly, what Jobs should have pointed out was that the Market allows something far more insidious and damaging than even the hardest-core pornography -- apps that spread hate and propagate the views of a movement that is pretty much universally reviled.
And here's where we have to take a hard look at what censorship really means, and what kind of role it can (and clearly should) play in the new frontier of app marketplaces on mobile devices (and elsewhere). Let's be clear about this right off the bat -- an app store isn't the internet. It's not a free-for-all, it's not an open venue where any type of wares might be hawked. The whole point of these app portals is to provide a controlled service to your users that has guidelines and rules that make getting software onto your phone relatively easy and safe. Whether or not you have stringent policies for what you'll accept (Apple), or few (Google), no one should pretend that this isn't a siloed service that must have rails to operate.

Think of it this way: app stores are kind of like privately owned bookstores. The owner of the bookstore doesn't have to carry the art book of nudes or the pro-Nazi thesis. In most situations, it doesn't have to carry everything because there are plenty of other places to get those books. That concept is especially true for Android -- users can sideload any applications they want onto their devices. No one is going to tell you that you can't install a Nazi theme on your phone, but we're pretty sure that Google shouldn't make it so easy, and it shouldn't subject a large portion of its users to content that rightfully deserves to sit on the fringes, not in the center.
So ultimately, what's the answer? While tapping out my thoughts on the matter, it seemed painfully clear how difficult of a question this really is. But the part that's confusing is the part that's essentially a lie -- that keeping certain pieces of content out of systems like the App Store or the Android Market equates to censorship... because it doesn't. As I said above, these portals aren't the whole world, they're not the internet -- hell, most people don't even have smartphones that they download applications onto. These are closed systems for specific uses, and something tells me that the people who built these systems don't really want to see them used to distribute Nazi themes. A follow-up tweet from Gartenberg stating that the company is "upset" by the experience and that the apps in question are in violation of its terms of service seems to confirm that.
I don't have the final word on this, and maybe there really isn't a final word to have. I know in my gut that Google doesn't want to be the place to go for all your Nazi needs, but I also know that there's a serious gray area when it comes to the hows and whys of choosing what you will and won't offer to users. In the end, a little common sense goes a long way, and if the Apples and Googles of the world can't find a middle ground that's fair, we're in for a messy, bumpy ride.
Update: Google has apparently pulled the themes due to "a violation of Android content policy."
Update 2: As PC Magazine points out, and as you can plainly read in Android's Content Policy for Developers, Google forbids content in the Market which involves "promotions of hate or incitement of violence," and (free speech-defying as it may seem) "pornography, obscenity, nudity or sexual activity." From where we stand, it looks like this is more an issue of Google's willingness to police its Market than it is about censorship -- Google definitely has rules about what it will and won't allow in its store.























A swastika is not a bad thing...unless used for hate.
Why is Engadget pushing their "Star of David" agenda on us ?
Boobies are soft , warm and fun to fondle.
What`s the problem ?
Now do you understand why muslim countries banned some sites for insulting Muhammad?
not agreeing with nazi views or anything, but whats the fuzz ? Denmark even has a nazi party, a nazi radio because they have no laws against them (which is a good thing, with discrimination in mind and all.) They also have the lowest nazi crimes, and if you say your part of the nazi party you'll be laughed at.
The point here is, you'll always have morons, trying to block them is just discrimination and will fuel their hatred. If you start blocking nazis what's the next step to block islamic apps because of their 'verse of the swords''-fundamentalism.
@uwgandalf
Eh, it's ok to ban sick, fanatic, cultist weirdos from most anywhere. They'll always have Apple Store...
There's no irony in the fact that we'll get all up in arms about a Nazi theme that embodies hatred of Jews, but ignore the various religious texts available in the same venue that espouse hatred of gays, women, infidels and so on.
File under "Godwin" and "Jump the Shark"
Any point anyone has raised thus far referring to freedom of speech or to anti-censorship is completely moot. Why?
Naziism is founded in hate. The deliberate promotion and/or glorification of nazi ideology in any from qualifies as hate speech. To say that it is anything else is, at best, naive or disingenuous, and, at worst, a flat out lie.
If that theme was at any time available in Germany then the Android market could find itself on the receiving end of some severe penalties from the German government. They DO NOT mess around with this sort of thing.
There are several problems with the situation. One of which is that the creators of the Nazi themes intentionally added "Jewish" as a keyword to their profile of their app entry. Had they not done that, it would not have come up with a search on "Jewish". By doing that, it is clear they want to upset Jews and others.
There is no question about that app : it should be erased.
The only question is : should Google spend more time to filter apps before anybody fingers them.
Should they hire a lawyer, a psychiatrist, a preacher, a redneck, a gay, a black, a diseased, a jewish, etc ... to decide by themselves what is right and what is wrong.
Should they act like Apple (all those functions being assumed by a single person) ?
In my opinion, things should stay free until they get exposed explicitly outlaw by a third party.
Welcome to the world of being a responsible adult in a world with other people in it.
If you don't like it, don't download it. No one is forcing you to pay and install these kinds of applications. And just because you find it offensive doesn't mean someone else does. Freedom is not about you getting to do what you want while telling others what they can't do, its about everyone doing what they want so long as it doesn't infringe upon the rights of others.
And to parents who are concerned about their children getting these apps - if you're kid has a phone or access to a computer which can view anything online, you've already lost that battle.
Yes to advanced filtering and better categorizing.
No to censorship - it's a slippery slope, and goes against everything a free market stands for.
@echoshatter All your points are invalid. First, It is a market owned and operated by Google. They can do whatever they want with it, if you don't like it then don't buy their phones. Second, it is not in the best interest for Google to offend anybody, because Jewish people buy cell phones and use the market too. Lastly, Android allows you to install 3rd party applications that are not in the app store, so it is unnecessary to carry every app. It especially unnecessary to carry apps that are offensive and have the audacity to include Jewish as a search term.
I get a laugh out of Nazis ever day.
I watch Hogans Heroes !
It was popular to hate the Germans back then but the truth is , if so many brilliant Germans/Jews has not defected to our USA , we would have lost the war and not been a Super Power.
With open source, I'd be less worried about hateful apps or porn apps, and more about the fact that in the very near future, you'll have to be very careful about viruses and apps that mysteriously call 1-900 numbers that charge users $10 a minute for the call. Verizon customer service of course will offer no support in refunding your money, as they are worse than Dell customer support reps in terms of usefulness. The bigger Android becomes, the more hackers will spend their time to exploit it.
Bad taste. Aesthetically unpleasant.
15,000 copies of Mein Kampf are sold every year in the US, while in most other countries - from Brazil to China, and many nations in between have completely banned the book.
A buddy of mine was standing next to a dude reading it on the El here in Chicago yesterday, too a photo to prove it.
Right now the depression, resentment, hate and general violence undercurrents are swelling, and its not just the summer heat. Having these sorts of themes in a digital marketplace shows that the world of hate is no longer reserved for luddites wearing masks and living in the back woods.
Maybe there should be less of an "OMG, delete that app" response from the moderators of these marketplaces and a more vocal, solid approach to addressing the real core problem here: when the world goes to sh*t, hate groups thrive - how can we combat this before it gets out of hand?
Btw, the cretins that published the nazi theme have also published an Apple theme for Android. Therefore Apple = nazi.
Haildroid stinks.Goobles failed. Jobs won.
@rossmcg
The same nazis that make nazi themes make also apple themes. How do you like them nazi apples, little apple nazi?
engadgt u just suck, cocksuckr
Hitler rocks!
this isn't a tech topic.
you are racist
i'm black and i was considering making hate artwork and themes and such to take advantage of people who hate me.. this IS a capitalistic society right?
The real, carefully buried story here is how apple nazis like this "creature apps" bunch are trying to push their toxic mix of perverted hateful dictatorial ideologies of applism and nazism on freedom loving people who are not interested. Shame on media again...
Why does engadget censor comments? I really hate them for that.
It's about time you Android fans got out of fantasy land.
Google has just as much control over their market as Apple does over the App store and has all along.
Google goes even further disabling Apps over the air as Europeans who enabled voice navigation before Google released it found out.
Where is the outrage over "walled gardens' etc where Google is concerned?
I don't agree with the app, but if you don't like it, don't get it, what's so hard about that, my problem is, if you take this down , then why not take down something that someone else doesn't like, where do draw the imaginary line? people feel strongly about this issue and thats why its down, but what if someone thinks a tattoo art app is wrong cause tattoo's are against their religion. Do you take it down?
And remember everyone, the swastika was FIRST introduce by religious groups such as Buddhist and it is not a hate symbol, IT'S a symbol of universal harmony, don't let one nation of idiots ruin a great symbol, and a awesome mustache
Terrible shame that a symbol for the Sun and life got stolen by the German Socialist party in the 1930s... :-(
so much bullshit from so many people .... long life the internet ...
its not done with "ignore it if you dont like it", thats one part of how all that mess startet back then ... and it doesnt help preventing it to happen again
spreading Nazi stuff IS in some parts of the world against the law, and should be everywhere.
every american gets upset if they see an islamic looking guy because he COULD be an terrorist, but if there are only nazis, bah just ignore them, dont buy it if you dont like it .....
55+ million deaths !! ... maybe its just cause it was so long ago
better thank god every day that you havent lived in that period of time.
Google should put a new section in the Android Market called 'morally inappropriate' where all of the sickening apps like this go, that way Google doesn't have to censor the app store and we all don't have to deal with all this crap.
Google can monitor the nice clean android marketplace and shit apps like the nazi themes can exist with a quick google search for those who want it.
I mean, just because some Amazon doesn't authorize "Sally's Nazi Porno Game" to be sold doesn't mean it can't be bought some other way, right?
Jewish Paranoia once again people. The only genocides nowadays are israelis (fact) and their ilegal occupation so please take all david stars out of my sight. Jews are not the victims anymore, so please stop crying over and over again about your movie industry holocaust.
I really think nothing should be censored, but now that nazis are being censored why not apply the same censorship to israelis that are doing to palestinians the same thing nazis did to them. And not only to palestinians, to the whole world by disobeying the UN that represents all the rest. Israelis with their forceful occupation of the Jordan river are making the dead sea descend 1 meter every year, so yes, Israel is producing an ecological disaster as well. Israel is the biggest enemy to human race as I see it here in europe.
Stupid Nazis
alert('Stupid Nazis');
dumb nazis
So, yeah, instead of taking your sweet time writing a whole article about the morality of things (and exploiting an opportunity to bring another apple comparison), you could've just read the terms of service, find out it was indeed forbidden material and just report it to the guys at Google.
Like you said in your second update, this was an issue of simply not having proper moderation of content, and it shouldn't have escalated into anything else.
Yah free speech is a bitch isn't it?