Jon: I don't know about radical... HP has an ability to bring this connected world to the consumer.
Kara: And you're going to stick with it?
Kara: You're going to be number 3 -- not number 1?
Jon: Well you have to get to number 3 before you get to number 1.
Jon: We will be talking a lot next year! We will see you on your show!
Q (from Mr. Joshua Topolsky!): Apple has a story and Microsoft has a story now in the mobile space. What is the WebOS story that is going to make consumers buy a Palm device?
Jon: The first thing is that we have a unique user experience compared to everyone else. Some of those features where we integrate into the Cloud are going to be really profound. Another point is this connected device strategy and that fits really well with HP. Right now we are really quiet cause we don't have anything we can talk about.
Jon: Well HP obviously sells a lot of stuff to carriers. We've got some great products coming and we're really excited about it.
Okay Jon, we hear you. Great products coming. Check.
Jon: If you look at webOS 2.0, we've done a lot of innovative things. It's got 50 new features, Flash, Skype, new Facebook app...
Kara: But is there a new concept?
Jon: That's where I'm going.
Jon: You know I think it's a 3 to 5 company game.
Jon: It's too early to talk about that. The first Pre was one of the first to use some new technologies. But we have a variety of products coming next year, including a new tablet.
Jon: We have a variety of products coming out. Next year we'll have a very different conversation.
Jon: What do you think?
Kara: No, kill it.
Jon: Okay you heard it here first. You know honestly I have no allegiance to it. It has some good connotations, it has some bad.
Jon: What we chose to do as part of the acquisition was integrate part of the company into HP, but we really kept engineering separate.
Kara: We're going to play an interview I did with you at CES.
Ha! It's the clip where he says he's never used an iPhone. "I've actually never used one." Kara: "What?" Jon: "It's true." Ha!
Kara: So, have you used one?
Jon: We're going to go through this again? Have I used one as my own device? I haven't. Have I touched one, yes.
Kara: Well I brought on Apple for you.
Jon: We wanted to create something unique with webOS, we didn't want to copy anything. Look, we have people who use iPhones, and I read reviews, I see launches. But I don't want to be tainted by a different experience. I'm trying to come with a fresh outlook on how things should work. I think what we're seeing in the industry is that everyone is copying the iPhone.
Kara: So let's talk about what happened at Palm. You guys started from a blank slate... but Andy Rubin said you were still in the mindset of the original Palm experience.
Jon: That's just not true. We couldn't leverage anything from the old OS. We did take some of the DNA -- ease of use, minimum number of steps to execute functions, the gestures... that all came from what made the Pilot great. We wanted to have a Palm, and now HP experience, but we didn't use any of the stuff from before. If anything, I would say webOS is the most advanced mobile OS out there. We use the languages of the web. We designed webOS to be connected to the cloud. That was part of the original concept. If anything, Android is based on Java, that's even more backwards looking.
Kara: So let's talk about Palm. Why couldn't it get the traction it needed?
Jon: I think we had a lot of what we needed to make it happen. We had a great team, carrier support, over half a billion in cash. But the market moved too fast as far as the competition went. We didn't have a way to get to scale. We could be small, but that's not sustainable.
Kara: So it was an issue of scale. It was the weird lady marketing? Well you changed that quickly. But it wasn't marketing?
Jon: There were things we could have done differently.
Kara: So was it the only option to sell?
Jon: The feeling was it was the best alternative. We felt the most expeditious outcome was the partner with HP.
Kara: Who else bid on you?
Jon: I can't tell you company A B C and D.
HP Pre 3
Palm Pre 2
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