Ever hold a ten megapixel cameraphone? Naw, neither had we, not until today anyway. Straight from the
floor at CeBIT, we've got the Samsung
SCH-B600 with an integrated 10 megapixel shooter. It's never gonna come anywhere close to the US or Europe so
nuzzle up to your monitor real close-like and take in this beauty. Click on for more pics.
At least they can't brag about it being RAZR thin -- still, not bad.
Camera controls right up top where you'd expect 'em.
not good i have 15 megapixel cell phone .it has night view see behind of the wall it can also 3 gsm at a time chalu Manual control and 15 megapixels may seem enticing for this price, but the S500's poor image quality will bring you back to reality. Specs: Compact, 15 megapixels, 4 x, 3.4 in LCD display, - Integrated
Is the UI still in Korean only? The demo models of the 7 & 8 MP phones at the Samsung Experience at Time Warner Center are stuck in Korean only mode and thus very hard to use.
Is the UI still in Korean only? The demo models of the 7 & 8 MP phones at the Samsung Experience at Time Warner Center are stuck in Korean only mode and thus very hard to use.
Well, I think that this is a bad idea. Battery performance will not be good enough for both. The area around lens is extruding, thus not making easier to haul around. And lastly, phones usually get much more physical abuse then any camera. Megapixels are not a big deal, but the optics will suffer, and the picture can only be as good as the optics of the camera.
I agree with Richard, 10 megapixels is really overkill. I'm looking at a mid-range DSLR and its 'only' 8 mpixels. Think about how much storage you would need just for one picture, and how much bandwidth it'd take to email one from your phone: that's gotta be 10 bucks to send one picture!
Ehhh... even if you did see this in the US, it would hardly be affordable. If it follows earlier Chinese pricing patterns, it will most likely cost $1200 at launch- with 2-year contract (which is the price of the 5-megapixel Samsung phone's price on launch in China- but contracts here are about $7 per month for 400 minutes- China needs to start competin in the US mobile provider market to bring prices down to this level(sorry, off on a tangent again) but I am just saying that this phone is just there as a status symbol- the only people I know with such high-megapixel Samsung cameraphones are Korean immigrants (no racial stereotyping here, just stating the facts-well... there are a few locals with these too, but those are executive-types).
You keep the 10Mp pictures JPEG-2000-compressed on the internal 2 GB flashcard and what you can email is a subsampled video version of same. (at least I hope it works that way!) Where's the qwerty keyboard, though?
Yep! That's pretty insane and who in the world would want one? I guess the next thing is high quality video camera phone with a gigebyte of hard drive in a slim design...
According to Samsung's head of telecoms, the new SCH-B600 10 megapixel camera phone will be heading for markets outside of Korea later in the year (at least Europe, no mention of the US).
Why don't they re-orient the lens so its length is hidden inside the body of the device? It would be just fine to have the lens be at one tip or the other. The reason lenses have to stick out so much is because they need the distance for focal length. They should use what they've already got!
Think about it, the sensor in the camera needs to be as small as possible to fit within the dimensions of the phone. The same sensor is now asked to take a 10mp image. The noise produced in the image will be absolutely brutal.
Maybe I'm the only one who would use this, but since I have an iPod for music, this would be all I ever need! Is there any way to make any of these phones you show work in the US, or are you just a bunch of teases?
This will will be available outside of Korea as of this fall. Europe is confirmed and US will likely follow as well. The idea of a compact phone and camera with a 10 megapixel chip is appealing, but let's wait and see how good the optics are and just how easily it's going to handle 10 megapixel images. You need some seriously fast and big storage if you're going to take lots of pictures at that resolution!
23. "Think about it, the sensor in the camera needs to be as small as possible to fit within the dimensions of the phone. The same sensor is now asked to take a 10mp image. The noise produced in the image will be absolutely brutal."
21. "Why don't they re-orient the lens so its length is hidden inside the body of the device? It would be just fine to have the lens be at one tip or the other. The reason lenses have to stick out so much is because they need the distance for focal length. They should use what they've already got!"
to no.23 Umm... did u even read the whole text? Where did you come from? Mars? wtf u mean by a "brutal noise"??? I mean, u should read the whole thing be4 you start jumping into wacky conclusions.
to no.21 Dude... the lens dont stick out u moron. It zooms in and zooms out, get the simple theory? Just use your common sense for goddness sake! Who the fk in the world would want this phone if the fkin lens were stiking out all the time!! You couldn't even be able to store it in ur pocket without breaking it!
.. ok here is my go for the dudes who didnt read it all.. SCH-B600 has DMB TV, MP3, 10MP camera, bluetooth,... meaning it has pretty much everything anoyone wuld wish for a phone...
23. "Think about it, the sensor in the camera needs to be as small as possible to fit within the dimensions of the phone. The same sensor is now asked to take a 10mp image. The noise produced in the image will be absolutely brutal."
21. "Why don't they re-orient the lens so its length is hidden inside the body of the device? It would be just fine to have the lens be at one tip or the other. The reason lenses have to stick out so much is because they need the distance for focal length. They should use what they've already got!"
to no.23 Umm... did u even read the whole text? Where did you come from? Mars? wtf u mean by a "brutal noise"??? I mean, u should read the whole thing be4 you start jumping into wacky conclusions.
to no.21 Dude... the lens dont stick out u moron. It zooms in and zooms out, get the simple theory? Just use your common sense for goddness sake! Who the fk in the world would want this phone if the fkin lens were stiking out all the time!! You couldn't even be able to store it in ur pocket without breaking it!
.. ok here is my go for the dudes who didnt read it all.. SCH-B600 has DMB TV, MP3, 10MP camera, bluetooth,... meaning it has pretty much everything anoyone wuld wish for a phone...
That lens will still take craptastic pictures. What you'll end up with is a 10MP useless shitty photo. Greeeeeaaaaaaatttt. Save yourself time and a few thousand bucks, grab a regular camera phone, open the photos up in photoshop and scale them up 600% and it'll be exactly as if you had this phone!
It's funny when you think about this. If i remember correctly a cellphone's primary function is to make phone calls. But these days people want gagdets that can let you surf the web,make pancakes etc.. you get the point.
Samsung owns 30% of pentax so, this phone is a fusion of pentax optics and samsung quality therefore, it won't take crappy pictures as concaf says. and yes, I think that it'll perform very well but; I don't use phones which exceeds its purpose. I'm happy with my n6021.
Guys just be happy that you can see this type of technology in your lifetime.Well done samsung.Hope other companies(like Nokia) will catch up. I totally agree that this phone is useless for 99% of us but is good to know that exists.
p.s.Maybe Nasa should hire Samsung to build the next spacecraft-I bet they will do a marvel.
Me again. What I found strange is the contradiction between the marvels achivements of Samsung and their actual crapy phones they have on market.Nokia is in my opinion the most practical phone manufacturer.And it seems samsung are copying everybody(see Razor,Nokia)
Samsung is like a big kid:only want to have the biggest toy .I'm wondering if Samsung is just a push over like chinese clothes which are all crappy and useless but they managed to kill the european manufactures.
To all UFO believers: don't believe until you test it hahaha;you already can buy 20 MP camera but they use interlaced mode ahahaha
10 mp?, is ridiculous, better buy a camera; this never pass a crash test and is expensive, ugly, just a piece of crap, "but is 10 mp!", so what?!: "one person is smart; people are just a bunch of dumbs who say : "but it has 10 mp!"
P.D.my english is pretty bad, sorry and greetings from monterrey city, mexico. :P
Only if Samsung's SCH B 600 10 megapixel camera phone's lens was on equipped with Samsung's Q-1 Ultra UMPC 120gigabyt ssd system computer phone instead of its 3.1 megapixel lens on the back, or else I would have one right now instead of carrying two separate phones! And only they could raise the optical zoom, and have the lens being capable of recording 150 + frames per second in their video/ camcorder mode on the UMPC etc... I need this asap!
If only Samsung could take this hot 10 mega pixel camera phone into a 300 gb hdd or upto a terabyt hdd computer phone with live Satellite TV channel options (like in Korea but have it available here in the USA) from around the world and with FloTV but having over 1000 plus tv channels; and enlarging the optical zoom to the 10 mp lens but having it capable of recording over 150 frames per second on its camcorder/ video recorder mode. That would be so great, or take all of these concepts and combine them to Samsung's Q1 Ultra UMPC computer phone that has a biometrics system too! Which would be so sweet. Plus
This a a GREAT gadget and for sumsung to achieve such a hurdle is awsome""Thumbs up to all the engineers at sumsung". I dont know why ppl a so persimistic about it when they have not eve tried it. let it roll out first, then we can judge for ourselves
I am really delighted to see this, i was eagerly waiting to have a phone which has the best megapixel camera, I wonder what is the expected price and by when we can expect this to enter market???
What is the point of a 10MP camera, how often are you going to use that amt? coz u'd be better off getting the new Sony Ericsson K800i because it has a 3.0 MP camera and has a lot more functions AND ITS A HELL OF A LOT CHEAPER!! and lets say ur walkin down the road and it rings, u get it out of ur poket and it falls on the floor and breaks?? £400+ gone!
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not good i have 15 megapixel cell phone .it has night view see behind of the wall it can also 3 gsm at a time chalu
Manual control and 15 megapixels may seem enticing for this price, but the S500's poor image quality will bring you back to reality.
Specs: Compact, 15 megapixels, 4 x, 3.4 in LCD display, - Integrated
The first picture looks nothing like a phone, but the other side does I guess
yes it is really great.
i came to know about ot from hanover fair.
nice technology and innovative power of Samsung.
yes it is really great.
i came to know about ot from hanover fair.
nice technology and innovative power of Samsung.
That's impressive from a proof-of-concept angle, but is it really all that good of an idea?
I think it's overkill... and honestly, if you're taking 10MP photos, shouldn't you be shooting with a DSLR?
It's getting to be like video cards and the never-ending battle to increase frame rates...
i couldn't agree more
if you want shots with 10 megapixels your gonna get the best of it from a DSLR
What OS is that running ? Anyone know ?
Is the UI still in Korean only? The demo models of the 7 & 8 MP phones at the Samsung Experience at Time Warner Center are stuck in Korean only mode and thus very hard to use.
Perhaps your guys at CeBit should ask them where they get the lens block.
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/6572/schb600voptiot108sx.jpg
Is the UI still in Korean only? The demo models of the 7 & 8 MP phones at the Samsung Experience at Time Warner Center are stuck in Korean only mode and thus very hard to use.
Well, I think that this is a bad idea. Battery performance will not be good enough for both. The area around lens is extruding, thus not making easier to haul around. And lastly, phones usually get much more physical abuse then any camera. Megapixels are not a big deal, but the optics will suffer, and the picture can only be as good as the optics of the camera.
Ok so your in the middle of taking some hot shots and the phone rings, oh what to do.....and what no mp3 player buit in either.... what a rip...lol
I am wondering it could be in my hand. Its zooming power is amazing, and we cant evn think abt this.
I agree with Richard, 10 megapixels is really overkill. I'm looking at a mid-range DSLR and its 'only' 8 mpixels. Think about how much storage you would need just for one picture, and how much bandwidth it'd take to email one from your phone: that's gotta be 10 bucks to send one picture!
@ #8:
It's running on Windows Mobile 5.0 most likely, so it has WMP built in.
Too bad it only has memory to hold one picture.
Ehhh... even if you did see this in the US, it would hardly be affordable. If it follows earlier Chinese pricing patterns, it will most likely cost $1200 at launch- with 2-year contract (which is the price of the 5-megapixel Samsung phone's price on launch in China- but contracts here are about $7 per month for 400 minutes- China needs to start competin in the US mobile provider market to bring prices down to this level(sorry, off on a tangent again) but I am just saying that this phone is just there as a status symbol- the only people I know with such high-megapixel Samsung cameraphones are Korean immigrants (no racial stereotyping here, just stating the facts-well... there are a few locals with these too, but those are executive-types).
A sensor can have as many megapixels as it wants, but it's pretty much useless unless the lens is sharp enough to provide the same resolution.
I hope it does come here. I want one.
You keep the 10Mp pictures JPEG-2000-compressed on the internal 2 GB flashcard and what you can email is a subsampled video version of same. (at least I hope it works that way!)
Where's the qwerty keyboard, though?
This would be better than the camera I have now, plus I wouldn't have to lug around my cell phone......
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This would be better than the camera I have now, plus I wouldn't have to lug around my cell phone......
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Jim
http://www.runfatboy.net
Yep! That's pretty insane and who in the world would want one? I guess the next thing is high quality video camera phone with a gigebyte of hard drive in a slim design...
According to Samsung's head of telecoms, the new SCH-B600 10 megapixel camera phone will be heading for markets outside of Korea later in the year (at least Europe, no mention of the US).
http://mobilementalism.com/2006/03/10/samsungs-sch-b600-10-megapixel-camera-phone-not-just-for-korea/
And they also hint at a new 20 gigabyte smartphone coming later in the year:
http://mobilementalism.com/2006/03/10/samsung-hints-at-20-gigabyte-mobile-phone/
hmmm....wouldn't be advisable for someone with butter-fingers like me. always drop my phone, and I can see that zoom not working real soon.
Why don't they re-orient the lens so its length is hidden inside the body of the device? It would be just fine to have the lens be at one tip or the other. The reason lenses have to stick out so much is because they need the distance for focal length. They should use what they've already got!
Where can i get one!
Sweet! Under $400 and I'd buy one and return my 8mp Digital Nikon to Costco.
Think about it, the sensor in the camera needs to be as small as possible to fit within the dimensions of the phone. The same sensor is now asked to take a 10mp image. The noise produced in the image will be absolutely brutal.
wow that phone looks pretty impressive! hopefully i'll own something like that sometime soon. [reply]
Maybe I'm the only one who would use this, but since I have an iPod for music, this would be all I ever need! Is there any way to make any of these phones you show work in the US, or are you just a bunch of teases?
This will will be available outside of Korea as of this fall. Europe is confirmed and US will likely follow as well. The idea of a compact phone and camera with a 10 megapixel chip is appealing, but let's wait and see how good the optics are and just how easily it's going to handle 10 megapixel images. You need some seriously fast and big storage if you're going to take lots of pictures at that resolution!
23. "Think about it, the sensor in the camera needs to be as small as possible to fit within the dimensions of the phone. The same sensor is now asked to take a 10mp image. The noise produced in the image will be absolutely brutal."
21. "Why don't they re-orient the lens so its length is hidden inside the body of the device? It would be just fine to have the lens be at one tip or the other. The reason lenses have to stick out so much is because they need the distance for focal length. They should use what they've already got!"
to no.23
Umm... did u even read the whole text? Where did you come from? Mars? wtf u mean by a "brutal noise"???
I mean, u should read the whole thing be4 you start jumping into wacky conclusions.
to no.21
Dude... the lens dont stick out u moron. It zooms in and zooms out, get the simple theory? Just use your common sense for goddness sake! Who the fk in the world would want this phone if the fkin lens were stiking out all the time!! You couldn't even be able to store it in ur pocket without breaking it!
.. ok here is my go for the dudes who didnt read it all.. SCH-B600 has DMB TV, MP3, 10MP camera, bluetooth,... meaning it has pretty much everything anoyone wuld wish for a phone...
23. "Think about it, the sensor in the camera needs to be as small as possible to fit within the dimensions of the phone. The same sensor is now asked to take a 10mp image. The noise produced in the image will be absolutely brutal."
21. "Why don't they re-orient the lens so its length is hidden inside the body of the device? It would be just fine to have the lens be at one tip or the other. The reason lenses have to stick out so much is because they need the distance for focal length. They should use what they've already got!"
to no.23
Umm... did u even read the whole text? Where did you come from? Mars? wtf u mean by a "brutal noise"???
I mean, u should read the whole thing be4 you start jumping into wacky conclusions.
to no.21
Dude... the lens dont stick out u moron. It zooms in and zooms out, get the simple theory? Just use your common sense for goddness sake! Who the fk in the world would want this phone if the fkin lens were stiking out all the time!! You couldn't even be able to store it in ur pocket without breaking it!
.. ok here is my go for the dudes who didnt read it all.. SCH-B600 has DMB TV, MP3, 10MP camera, bluetooth,... meaning it has pretty much everything anoyone wuld wish for a phone...
and when in Spain?
That lens will still take craptastic pictures. What you'll end up with is a 10MP useless shitty photo. Greeeeeaaaaaaatttt. Save yourself time and a few thousand bucks, grab a regular camera phone, open the photos up in photoshop and scale them up 600% and it'll be exactly as if you had this phone!
It's funny when you think about this. If i remember correctly a cellphone's primary function is to make phone calls. But these days people want gagdets that can let you surf the web,make pancakes etc.. you get the point.
Samsung owns 30% of pentax so, this phone is a fusion of pentax optics and samsung quality therefore, it won't take crappy pictures as concaf says.
and yes, I think that it'll perform very well but; I don't use phones which exceeds its purpose. I'm happy with my n6021.
Guys just be happy that you can see this type of technology in your lifetime.Well done samsung.Hope other companies(like Nokia) will catch up.
I totally agree that this phone is useless for 99% of us but is good to know that exists.
p.s.Maybe Nasa should hire Samsung to build the next spacecraft-I bet they will do a marvel.
Me again.
What I found strange is the contradiction between the marvels achivements of Samsung and their actual crapy phones they have on market.Nokia is in my opinion the most practical phone manufacturer.And it seems samsung are copying everybody(see Razor,Nokia)
Samsung is like a big kid:only want to have the biggest toy .I'm wondering if Samsung is just a push over like chinese clothes which are all crappy and useless but they managed to kill the european manufactures.
To all UFO believers: don't believe until you test it hahaha;you already can buy 20 MP camera but they use interlaced mode ahahaha
It`s awesome,Am dying to lay my hands on this baby...Hope it arrives soon in India.
10 mp?, is ridiculous, better buy a camera; this never pass a crash test and is expensive, ugly, just a piece of crap, "but is 10 mp!", so what?!: "one person is smart; people are just a bunch of dumbs who say : "but it has 10 mp!"
P.D.my english is pretty bad, sorry and greetings from monterrey city, mexico. :P
Only if Samsung's SCH B 600 10 megapixel camera phone's lens was on equipped with Samsung's Q-1 Ultra UMPC 120gigabyt ssd system computer phone instead of its 3.1 megapixel lens on the back, or else I would have one right now instead of carrying two separate phones! And only they could raise the optical zoom, and have the lens being capable of recording 150 + frames per second in their video/ camcorder mode on the UMPC etc... I need this asap!
If only Samsung could take this hot 10 mega pixel camera phone into a 300 gb hdd or upto a terabyt hdd computer phone with live Satellite TV channel options (like in Korea but have it available here in the USA) from around the world and with FloTV but having over 1000 plus tv channels; and enlarging the optical zoom to the 10 mp lens but having it capable of recording over 150 frames per second on its camcorder/ video recorder mode. That would be so great, or take all of these concepts and combine them to Samsung's Q1 Ultra UMPC computer phone that has a biometrics system too! Which would be so sweet. Plus
what ever happened to the samsung wrist phone?
WWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW :O 10 MP :O .... this is so nice :O
This a a GREAT gadget and for sumsung to achieve such a hurdle is awsome""Thumbs up to all the engineers at sumsung". I dont know why ppl a so persimistic about it when they have not eve tried it. let it roll out first, then we can judge for ourselves
I think this one is camera buildin phone not phone building camera.
I am really delighted to see this, i was eagerly waiting to have a phone which has the best megapixel camera, I wonder what is the expected price and by when we can expect this to enter market???
What is the point of a 10MP camera, how often are you going to use that amt? coz u'd be better off getting the new Sony Ericsson K800i because it has a 3.0 MP camera and has a lot more functions AND ITS A HELL OF A LOT CHEAPER!! and lets say ur walkin down the road and it rings, u get it out of ur poket and it falls on the floor and breaks?? £400+ gone!