Sony shows off the real PS3 controller
By Marc Perton 
posted May 8th 2006 10:19PM
posted May 8th 2006 10:19PM
Update: Sony has confirmed that the new controller will not have vibration functionality, unlike the Dual Shock, Dual Shock 2 and the Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii controllers. They claim this has to do with interference of the motion sensing, but we have a sneaky feeling that this could have something to with those lawsuits that started all that "boomerang" musing in the first place.
I am a novice at PS3 and just bought it and an extra controller along with Tiger Woods 2008 game. I can't get the second controler to operate. Any assistance would be great.
Ps3 is THE best console !
I am not anykind of fanboy, this is just fact.
The controller is not a nintendo rip because the six axis is just an extra feature and even without it the ps3 would still rock.
Sorry but the wii is pretty crappy, it has crap graphics and tonnes of really boring games, the only reason people buy it is because the controller is a gimmic and also because nintendo fanboys eat up anything with mario on it.
I bought a Wii and got bored of it within a month and i think most people who are really into gaming will do the same.
Nintendo your days are numbered !
GEEZ the ps3 contoller is essentially the same as its ps2 counterpart with trigger like L2/R2 buttons, wireless capability and movement rcognition.
obviously the controller would be wireless its a must in the new generation of consoles *cough xbox base pack*
also the movement cant posibly have a patent on it from nintendo. and if it does.. fuck them!
diapointin with no vibration tho
If it ain't broke...
Wow, I saw this one coming. Not only do we have the dual shock 2.5, we have sony stealing an innovation from nintendo instead of creating their own.....
*I am not a fanboy.....I do not discriminate agaisnt any (console) race!
It's the third time around and it still looks the damn same! WTF Sony?
HAHA!! NO BOOMERANG!! LMAO!! Looks like people got nothing to say now. BTW, Sony was smart to use Bluetooth for their controllers compared to the Infrared X360 uses. Also SD card support is a definate plus.
To simply put it. It may cost $500 and $600. But it has 20GB, Blu-ray built-in, FREE NETWORKING, and more HD than X360. Its a steal compared to the X360 which will eventually have an external HD DVD drive. What a rip. How much will it cost I bet $99 which will bump the price to the same as the PS3.
JAmerican
isnt everything sony does a 1/2 assed imitation of their competitors. i seriously hope (especially because sony dismissed the wiimote as a gimmick at the beginning of their briefing) nintendo blows them back to kingdom come tomorrow.
this is over-priced, and THEFT. 6-dimensions isn't anything close the wii's controller which detects the position in 3-dimensional space. this is absolutely shameless, and i cant imagine any sensible human being NOT being offended by them,.
& let me clarify, nintendo's controller has been confirmed bluetooth enabled for almost a year. they're multiplayer service has been confirmed free for almost a year.
they are not putting a monopoly on HD storage, its completely expandable and accepts ipods, USB drives, etc. this is an absolute joke. i am furious.
seriously:
seriously: nintendo ftw.
The new Sony controller cannot detect where it is in 3D space like the Wiimote, this is NOT an exact copy of the Wiimote. Sony obviously tried to copy Nintendo at the last minute and looks like a damn fool for it.
Blatant rip-off of Nintendo's controller.
Aww... dissapointing. I was hoping for the revolutionary boomerang design.
Like _habit_ said "If it ain't broke..."; If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Sony's being smart. First they take the idea of Xbox Live and improve by making it free. Now they're taking away Nintendo's thunder with their innovative controller function (the movement sensory) and improving by putting it in the DualShock controller we all (speaking in generalites) know and love.
I have to agree that Sony looks pretty stupid for copying Nintendo--and then doing it terribly.
Copyright infringement is the sincerest form of flattery.
Ok guys sony is not ripping off nintendo with the whole gyro thing u morons....eather logitech or microsoft i think were the first ones to put a gyro in a controller for the PC.
They should've given the controller an aesthetic upgrade, like transparent buttons so the black plastic wouldn't look so nasty.
Anyways, Sony just played it safe and stabbed Nintendo in the back.
If only Nintendo would've kept theirmouth shut...
I'm going to have to dissent with everyone else here... the Dual Shock continues to be my favorite game console controller, and this is a good development
The motion detection isn't as inventive as Nintendo's, but this is still a value add for the PS3, if it is a somewhat more conservative one.
I have to add that Nintendo looks pretty stupid on their own with naming Wii, so Sony and Nintendo should just have a big stupid party.
If hardcore888 isn't a pimply-faced fourth grader, he's missing his calling.
One important not though - There will be no rumble reature, hense they needed something to stick in the plain PS2 controller.
SO we have Dual SHock - minus - the Shock.
We have the ps2 button on it which is a rip off of Xbox's X Button - they didn;t show it in use, but i'll be you it access the online features.
XYZ movement - kinda stealing wII's thinder but not really.. all they did is capitalise on the rediculas movements people make while playing video games (not really real people- but the way tv people play video games) and make it so it controller the charater.. not innovate at all, and a feature to DISTRACK PS3 USERS from the FACT THAT RUMBLE IS GONE, and to piss on WII. It will be a feature that will be there for the next 5 years and Never used by then end user as I see users Turning it off for games that use the feature.
Chris D
Sony is creating new boundaries for control in games. This allows for new moves, types of games, etc. While the Wiimote is changing completely the way we play those games, Sony is creating new ways to control games with what they have.
It is no way stealing an 'innovation' of Nintendo.
No vibration function for the PS3 controller. Amazing how this has flown under the radar.
http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/09-05-2006-2756.html?commentpage=1
A press release has revealed that the vibration feature in the Dualshock and Dualshock 2 controllers will not be present in the PlayStation 3 controller.
"Pursuant to the introduction of this new six-axis sensing system, the vibration feature that is currently available on DUALSHOCK and DUALSHOCK 2 controllers for PlayStation and PlayStation 2, will be removed from the new PS3 controller as vibration itself interferes with information detected by the sensor," reads the press release.
Whilst this has obviously been done to enable the controller to use the new sensing technology, the lack of feedback from the controller may well leave a rather sterile feeling in gamers' hands.
The PS3 controller will operate wirelessly via Bluetooth, but with the addition of a USB cable which plugs into the rear of the controller you have yourself a wired version. When connected with a USB cable the controller will also recharge automatically.
I love the new controller, just as I loved the DualShock2 before it. I can't stand the positioning of the joysticks on the 360 controller, and I have no idea how well Nintendo's wierd idea will work. I really don't mind that they ripped off the Revolution (not calling it a childish synonym for urine) It just makes the PS3 better while making the 360 look worse.
Peace to both Nintendo and Sony. I hope both their controllers function well.
If it worked for sooooooooooooooo..... ooo... many people, why change it so radically?
Just add bluetooth, pack it and sell it. Theres a lot of money to be made ladies and gentlemen!
Alexander Wunderlich
#12 hardcore888: got it right. LMAO Wii loving wankers.
Didn't Microsoft steal Windows from Apple and Apple steal it from Xerox. Its called Business. Stealing in business is called innovation. You take something and make it your own within legal constructs. As for Nintendo, I've said nothing against it because face it, it will not dominate the gaming market like X360 and Sony PS3 will. Sorry Wii lovers. While a few of you are playing with your Wii and your friend's Wii, the real gamers will be playing with their PS3s and X360s.
I still feel PS3 will win this battle.
Although, the download service for Nintendo is amazing (N64, SNES), they really know how to make legendary games work for them.
JAmerican
Come onnn Sony, AT LEAST MAKE IT PRETTIER, this is "next-gen" or whatever, make the conroller prettier please. For one, you can take away the stupid little lines around both the D-pad and the face buttons and make it a little curvier
JAmerica, the 360 controller is NOT infrared.
Wow, rip off the Wii motion sensing, the 360 guide button, and stuff it in a dual shock controller. They don't even switch the left stick and d-pad around.
And for the "if it ain't broke," the dual shock has never been an ergonomic controller design. They haven't even really changed the shape since it came out (with two sticks).
worst.
controler.
evah.
I think the N64 controller beats this one. Hell, the Xbox v1 controller does better than this.
Am I the only one to see the lack of human factors in this design?! I mean, since the PS1??! 4 buttons, exactly the same size and texture, differentiated by a symbol you shouldn't be looking at anyway! The ridiculously uncomfortable forefinger buttons... and 4 of them??
While I realize that this can all be subdued through a nice learning curve of actually playing games for multitude of hours but, honestly, IMO this points out the genius that was the GameCube controller ... different size, different feel buttons ... COMFORTABLE forefinger buttons ... the wireless controller that was years ahead of its time (Logitech couldn't touch it w/ their solutions for PS2 and Xbox).
And now, the 'nunchaku' ...
... i'm salivating.
Goodnight, dear Sony, you prince of Japan, you king of your own imagination ... stick to building Wegas ... you had me at 'XBR'.
on the topic of controllers... I'm a dedicated X-box 360 player...and hearing my friend say they don't want to play the xbox because of the controller being bigger(when 360 also has 4 buttons,2 thumbsticks,and 4 top buttons)is basically just bitching about something they probably never even tried...one person even told me that they like playstation better because the sports games were better.lol.Sports games almost ALWAYS releases on all the systems(maybe not gamecube)to get more money and people say their better on playstation when there exactly the same! I salute nintendo for trying to be original and not stealing ideas...lol.
lol sony got all lawyered up over Dualshock.. lost dualshock... they added xyz... (half arsed) i can just see the battles about to rage lol am i the only one that ever thought the ps2 controller was flimsyly light and felt cheap? ... wow and this is lighter? (DUHHHHHH THERE ARENT ANY DUALSHOCK MOTORS!)
Apple did not steal from Xerox, they gave Xerox a good sum of stock options through which Xerox made some good money.
If you Nintendo fan boys had any knowledge of controller use, you'd take your head out of your ass.
To develop the motion sensing in that controller, it takes oodles of time. There's no way they could have just drummed up that idea as soon as they heard about it from Nintendo's dev community.
It also works differently than Nintendo's Pii. So get over it and move on.
The augmented reality is going to make card game nerds Pii their pants. That's a huge market and Sony made a really good move on getting into it. The eye toy would have died otherwise.
By titles alone, the PS3 is going to dominate the market immediately upon release. If Nintendo has any sense, they'd make sure that it is released before Sony.
Anyone want a used X360? Look for one on Craigslist come November 17th.
First off, who cares that Sony 'ripped off' Nintendo? Of course they did. If they didn't, they would be left behind. Just like everyone is ripping off Microsofts unified online service.
Hopefully Sony will make it a solid product. I plan on purchasing a PS3 as soon as I'm able to.
$500? That's not bad at all. For $99 dollars more than an Xbox360 you get a built in Bluray player and all the exclusive titles the PS3 is sure to have. That's worth a benjamin in my book.
As for the controller itself... I don't know. A new style would have been exciting...but I do like the feel of the original PS controller. The motion detection will probably only be really good in a few titles. I REALLY hope it has a vibration fuction... but since they were sued for that earlier this year I have a feeling the bad news is true.
But whatever. All three systems seem to rock out the features. I'm buyin them all.
Sony did a good job but i hate there controller lol.No triggers so ill stick to my 360 but atleast they are improving.
For all those who havint held the 360 controller its best controller 2 date :)
Buying all 3 consoles cause they rock :P
Good move by Sony in keeping the Dual Shock controller for the PS3, I still think its the best controller out there and by adding motion detection the PS3 will easily dominate the next gen console wars, again.
Haha, its funny seeing all the XBOX fanatics squirming in their mom's basement now that they realize the xbox 360 is the only new console out there without a controller with motion detection!!!
Trust me, I know what I'm doing.
Ok, so it doesn't matter whether Sony stole the design from Nintendo or not. Sony will still only won the hardcore gamers. Nintendo IS REACHING gamers from all ages now. Did you read the TIME article? Imagine you're not a gamer and read it what will be your reaction? Interested because it is easy? After all, the controller still looks complicated and hard to control for newbie despite the motion sensor they put. Yeah, PS3 will still win the 'real' gamers but Nintendo might have already won the bigger picture of what we think.
THE PS3 CONTROLLER IS NOT A WIIRIP.
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THE PS3 CONTROLLER IS NOT A WIIRIP!
http://pages.videotron.com/ultrabns/pic/negcon.gif
Once more: THE PS3 CONTROLLER IS NOT A WIIRIP!!!
http://pages.videotron.com/ultrabns/pic/negcon.gif
That's the Negcon. An additional controller available for the PS1. It basically had a slightly inferior tilt control to the new PS3 controller design. Tilt control is very different to what the Wii uses. The Wii will be able to sense depth, it's a completely different experience. This controller is more of an additional bonus for certain games such as flight simulators and maybe driving games.
Summary: IT'S NOT A NINTENDO RIP. STOP WHINGING.
Is there a video of the conference online? If so, where? Considering the controller, i say they should have made the design smoother than the DS2. I don't think Sony will sway away from the DS2 design for it has brought them the most success, but the next generation is yearning for innovation.
depotman45, i think you mean:
"Question: What is the difference between a Nintendo Fanboy and a puppy? Answer: A puppy stops whining after it grows up."
Sony had patents for this type of motion detection well before the Revolution. Seriously people, you think they just pull this stuff outta their ass? It takes time and R&D to develop this stuff - for both camps. Sony and Nintendo were working on this at the same time. Nintendo just announced theirs first.
hey i think its perfect that they added the gyro, and the design is also perfect; "If it aint broke DONT fix it" they have had a good design since 1995 and they stuck with it good job Sony, you are getting a BLUE RAY player for $200 maximum, i think it really is a bargain.
Finally, a controller for those people who can't help but think turning the controller works like a steering wheel. Maybe I'll actually be able to race my little sister....
I am not going to buy this...
it's too expensive.
motion sensor controllers, innovative? What about the old PC ones?
http://gear.ign.com/articles/324/324346p1.html
http://www.planethardware.com/features/misc/logitech_wingman_extreme/
1. Sony are a bunch of wankers for ripping off Nintendo's Wiimote. Evidently a last minute addition as only one game poorly supported it.
2. $500 for a PS3? Not to mention having to purchase a HD tv set, what a fucking rip off.
3. It's like Sony took a bit of innovation from Nintendo's wiimote, a bit of innovation from Xbox Live and looked entirely stupid in the process.
4. They lose on being the first to the market. They lose on innovation (couldn't there have been at least ONE original idea). They lose on price. They lose immense respect for ripping off nintendo. And I doubt those polygons are real.
5. The blu ray player will be a first generation player, crap and useless. The ps2 was a shoddy dvd player and don't argue.
The PS3 controller, what a joke.
Aw c'mon sony fanboys. Lets not make it a fight. I am going to buy both machines. I am buying the ps3 for graphics and the wii for revolution. I do not want the revolution to come out with half assed graphics, as well as i don't want the ps3 to come out with half ass controllers. I like them both but c'mon stick to your guns sony.
Why does making a controller that sense motion innovative? It's nothing special.
I hate how you all think Nintendo is going to be a good console just because it has a fancy controller. Well look, now Sony does too, so maybe you should buy a PS3 instead... with superior graphics.
You guys are so stupid. The point of making the controller the same design is so that there is some BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY since you will be playing PSX and PS2 games as well. Heck, it may be possible to attach your old Playstation controller to the PS3 through a USB adapter.
43: kiss ass they can diss if they want why? cause there console DID HAVE IT FIRST! im a xbox360 guy and yes im getting a wii why? cause they have the full implementation of the location awareness in their controller unlike the ps3.. and also the ps3 controller has and still is apparently the most uncomfortable controller ever designed.. oh and the games look the same as the darn 360 anyway (actually with visible distance limits there kinda subpar)
well, its good to know that sony still has some genuine thinkers! really original.
ps3 gfx = cgi
the hardware for the gpu was months ago and AMAZINGLY better than pc video cards that have been released recently
i have 512mb 7900gtx in sli and i dont get graphics like that... i know it has a lot to do with programing but thats unreal and highly unlikly... if it is true graphics (highly doubted) ps3 will be a definate win over 360.
I think Sony did the right thing here. Like it's been repeated over and over: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Nintendo is really centering their new console around this revolutionary controller... but gaming shouldn't come down to how awesome the controller is, it should above all come down to how good the games are.
We're putting so much focus on the Wii's controller. Sony obviously thinks they don't need to change a thing. And I agree.
Its amazing how sony continues to get lamer with each announcment. I'd like to see a media boycott on them for lack of innovation. It is almost as bad as their 'ipod killers'. I just hope the general public doesn't get swindled into thinking this controller provide anything close to the Wii controller.
looks like we have the PS-Thwii-60
Sad fact is though, the PS3 will be a success. I can hardly sleep looking forward to the Wii. But truth is that the PS3 will still probably have the most games tailored specifically for my demographic.
I buying one ;) Who gives a shit who stole from who or if they stole. Grow up you bunch of children!!
You guys are *GEEKS*.. sheez..
they ripped of microsoft and logitech check out the link http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3blog.html?topic_id=24600407
Why is the NegCon keep being mentioned? It's nothing like that. The NegCon had a swivel in the middle, and you twisted the left side from the right side. There was no tilt control or motion sensing or anything remotely similar to the Wii remote, or this PS3 half arsed rip-off.
http://a9.com/?q=negcon&sourceid=mozilla-search
When I found out Sony was keeping the original design, I swear I came in my pants. I wasn't going to buy the ps3 originally, because that boomerang controller was, to say the least, the stupidest idea I've ever seen. I'm not the only one, either. The goddamn controller doesn't need to be original, considering the system itself is going to kick the shit out of the other to systems.
I'd like that most trustworthy company test taken one more time, lets see how far sony gets.
best post on another forum
"OKAY SO I CAN GET A 360 and A WII FOR THE PRICE OF A PS3 with one PS3 game????????? OMG forget PS3 M$ should just bundle 360 and Wii together for the same price!"
"
Wow, a gaming console story sure brings out all the smack-talking prats.
""Question: What is the difference between a Nintendo Fanboy and a puppy? Answer: A Nintendo Fanboy stops whining after it grows up."
Heh, way to go depotman45, you completely muffed the joke. Brilliant. How many of your brain cells had to die to come up with that one?
The PS2 controller is the worst out there. Sad that Sony decided to carry it over for the next gen. The GameCube may be behind PS2 and Xbox, but it definitely has the best controller. Hopefully Wii (hate that name) will be backwards-compatible with the old controller (I've heard it will). Here's hoping for a good Wii presentation tomorrow, though Nintendo's lack of high-def support seems to be a major blunder.
'Tendo did it first, as always :]
Another view:
dunno if this works...
yah, didn't work (no tags, darn), so go here for a great controller pic:
http://www.r0rschach.com/black.jpg
Dude if you ask me the whole wiimote thing is kinda dorky. I don't consider it a bonus to copy it. I mean it would be cool for a game or two but every game waving around that stupid thing. Seems like a gimick that would get old really quick. I don't want to be waving my arm around for 12-15 hours of playing a game...and that's just for one title.
62. That should have stayed at the other forum...
499 + 69 (estimated) != 399 + 199 (estimated)
So what would you do with 2 gameless systems?
http://warehouse.nn45.com/data/media/3/Sony-thief.jpg
Yep, all the assorted typical comments are in. And it seems that only TomK has a decent idea of what design and ergonomics are all about.
I don't think the boomerang style would have been too terrible to hold. But because the playstation crowd are all, "It looks stupid! Give us the old one back!" Sony caved in. I'd like to know if anyone has a link to, or first-hand experience of holding the boomerang prototype.
For the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" campers, I'm willing to bet that you've been playing the playstation brand since it arrived. I've been playing videogames since the Atari joystick days, the cube controller and xbox360 are both comfortable and both put the analogue stick in its rightful place rather than an antiquated d-pad-centric style.
And as for them ripping off motion sensory, it's not really them ripping it off, it's them adding something that doesn't really work in a dualshock shell in the first place. I have an old logitech gamepad that has tilt sensitivity, but it's rubbish to use when you're holding it in both hands to tilt and then trying to press buttons.
By the by, would be claimers of "ur a whiny fan-boy loser dood!" You'd better have some pretty good comeback arguments and not just childish namecalling if you have any hope of trying to destroy someones confidence... Yes, I'm looking at hardcore888.
I, for one am glad that Nintendo is saying "Screw you!" to the "hardcore" crowd. More like stalecore.
StefanW and hardcore have both said that Sony are improving things for gamers, but until they back their claims up with how Sony have improved things for games and are making new ways to do moves... what the hell does that even mean, StefanW?
And as for their online stategy? Making something free doesn't automatically make it improved. It just means you don't have to pay to use it. If it's free and it's rubbish, then it means they haven't lost any money having to maintain the network. Though judging from the Sony E3 thing, it says that the basic functionality will be free, so, like XBL, there could be some sort of subscription tiers set up to actually play games, they've already got pre-paid currency. Which is just the same as iTunes. Only it's a clear card. Wow! Sarcasm included at no extra cost.
Well, that's enough for now... I'm pretty sure this topic is going to be full of fanpersons from all camps whining incessantly.
@ #67
Um, download virtual console games on the Wii and XB arcade games on the 360 and have a good time playing games instead of wanking over how many SPU's your worthless Sony machine has.
Looks like the L2 and R2 buttons are now triggers.
I think the PS3 controller sucks.
There was a PS1 controller way back in 1995/96 which I think was called the Airpad that did exactly the same motion tilting thing the new PS3 controller does.
And nobody bought it because nobody could find and good ideas that used it.
Ouch. Dumping a long standard feature like vibration in the controller in an attempt to do a poor mans' copy of Ns' Wii controller.
Sony is tanking this round. Badly...
Looks like the 360 and the Wii are set to clean up.
Oops, I posted this in the live coverage thread:
Wow, that dualshock 2 and half looks like it was designed in 1992. I am just blown away that they are still using the same design. Since owning a Playstation I've hated the dualshock. It is so incredibly uncomfortable I was surprised to learn that Sony was still using the same plastic molds when the PS2 launched. Now the PS3??? If they don't change the design before launch there's no way I'm even going to bother trying to play the games.
I was impressed with the presentation right up until the point they showed the duck tilting in the bathtub. As a longtime Mario Party player, it reminds me of the first time I saw Crash Bash in action.
Back in 2000, the sight of this pathetic attempt at copying a great Nintendo idea just made me cringe. It's like watching your best friend's garage band play a terrible cover that they are really really proud of. Even though they're trying their hardest, it's just plain awful. The melody is there, but they're singing in out of key and skipping over the solos. They aren't all playing in time, and the amps are buzzing from the cheap components. There's no way you can enjoy it, but you clap anyways and tell them it's good just because at this point, any criticism isn't going to help. The saddest thing is that they don't even know they suck. You are embarrassed for them but you try to hide it.
After seeing that controller, I am embarrassed for the PS3. Good effort Sony. Good effort.
Let me get somm right out of the way:
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/060509ae.pdf
The "real" Playstation 3 is $599. The $499 version has no memory stick, wireless, or HDMI which are all important functions. Also the PS3 will NOT have dual shock since they lost the law suit. Everyone fighting here obviously isn't a fanboy since to my understanding most of the people here didn't know about this info until some REAL fanboys posted the links before me. Also, all the people screaming "it's ripping off Wii" or "haha the PS3 has Wii capabilities". This new feature has nothing on Wii and I can't even imagine this being used in games (the preview was lame).
http://www.r0rschach.com/black.jpg
ok am i missing something 1-4 led lights... that designates the controller number i thought magical sony was doing 7 controllers? or is that another scrapped feature lol
I havent had a lot of time to spend with X360 controller but I believe it is more comfortable than the Gamecube controller. Which is in my opinion extremely comfortable after hours of playing Smash Melee(besides the Z-button). If you take some time to notice you'll see that the big console makers have been outdoing each other in term of controller ergonomics and features with every redesign, and yet Sony feels that they dont need to follow this trend. They decide to stick with an old design behind the notion "if it aint brok...". I feel its imperative that Sony rethink their strategy with their new console because although they might not lose this console battle, they are setting themselves up for losing the next.
Who cares about a stupid Controller, " o my there copy nintendo becouse they have something that will amke sone look better so I have to F*cking cry about it and say the there copying". JUST STOP buy what you want to buy and stop crying about the F*cking thing aready!!!
For the mean time DO somthing useful in your life!!!
Not site here and wine.!!.....!
Fanboys P*ss me off!
man this controller sucks. just look at it. whats so nex gen bout it. 360's controller is way better
As the first comment mentioned, if it ain't broke... I like the dualshock design, and it looks like there's enough backwards compatability that the old controllers don't loose their value. You gotta hand it to Sony though for cherry picking the best ideas. People may screw blue-bloody-copying until they're red in the face, but Sony puts the package down and people buy.
Lack of rumble isn't too big of an issue for 90% of people, I'd say, and who knows - it could mean longer battery life (which I hope we get a comparison of, come November). Longer battery life = longer sessions wire-free.
Chris, the specs allow for up to 7 *devices* to be connected, not necessarily 7 *controllers*.
Ahahaha. No vibration? Half-assed tilt sensing that, I imagine, two games out of the 1,000 that will be available for the console will use? A $499 price tag for a console with no HDMI? I'm sorry but Sony has totally gone insane.
I'm going to stick with 360 and Wii.
They better tighten up the analog sticks, cuz they're too lose for FPS. Or they could just use the stolen motion sensing, or possibly the stolen guide button.
Most likely the gyroscopic uses will be forgotten like analog buttons, How many times was that used? I can bearly think of one time on the PS2. XBOX used it on DOA:XBV other than that I never seen it used again. XBOX 360 controller even dropped that function. Nintendo is gonna dominate in that motion detection market while the 360 is gonna get the hardcore gamers. Sony basically fumbled on the next gen.
sony is a pack of unoriginal overpriced japs who make shitty hardware and lackluster software JESUS CHRIST WHY DO 3rd PARTY DEVELOPES STICK WITH THEESE MORONS
No vibration? Son of a bitch... STUPID patent trolls making everyone's life difficult these days.
The rumbling adds quite a lot to game perception.
Anyway, from that picture there, one of my questions has been answered: What appear to be PROPER analogue triggers on the shoulder. (R2/L2)
WTF you Wii lovers! Wii sucks; it will have the worst third party support, just like the N64 and GCN. Moreover, as for Sony, where is the vibration function. Sony should add the vibration function and switch the d-pad with the left thumb stick. I have noticed the left analog stick is hard to use since it is placed way in the bottom, and most of the games require the left stick. As for you Wii lovers, go Wii in your pants? I do not want to look like a retard at the store while trying out the Wii controller, Nintendo?s worst idea yet. I am a true supporter of Sony and Apple, and I hate Microsoft with a passion. Do not get me wrong, I am a big collector of Nintendo?s games, it is just that I hate their hardware.
nobody else that sees sony copying nintendo seems to realize that wat nintendo wants to do is revoloutionize gaming as a whole..not just for nintendo..and its working..obviously
I have no idea why, but I find fraxyl's comments brilliant and dead-on.
:-D
(thx, bro)
Have anybody noticed that there're only 4 of those.. (i'm guessing) controller lights when there're suppose to be 7 (since the PS3 supports up to 7 controllers)?
"BTW, Sony was smart to use Bluetooth for their controllers compared to the Infrared X360 uses."
The 360 uses 2.4 Ghz, not infrared.
John Hinds: It's called the Air Racer. It's compatible with PS1/2 and N64 as well. I got one on ebay for $1.99. It makes Starfox 64 a ton of fun! And it actually works well!
lmfao chris said "am i the only one that ever thought the ps2 controller was flimsyly light and felt cheap?" yes my brother in law broke on while playing gt3 after he came in second in to 5 pieces with his hands lol and yeah sony has stolen everything fropm someone from thier cds whom phillips designed to thier consoles nintendo may be the underdog but thats because they dont steal from others
ohh and i am not a fanboy as i own 2 xboxes 2 ps2s and 1 ngc i am a gamer i play games on ANY console if i like them
More importantly, who in their right mind wants to watch hd movies on the sure to be a cheap P.O.S. blu-ray drive included with the ps3? I thought you would have all learned your lesson after the "amazing" job sony did with the PS2's dvd drive. If you really want to be an early adopter, then quit the crying and pony up the cash for a real player.
Oh, and the dual shock series has to easily be the most uncomfortable controller in gaming history. I prefer the NES controller's ergonomics to the Playstation controller.
The only thing that could get me to buy this system is Metal Gear Solid 4.....but i'm sure it'll eventually be out on the 360 with added features. I'll just save my $600 and put it towards either a blu-ray player or an hd-dvd player and some movies.
You like the Nin controller for the same reason they keep changing it... because it gets more comfy the more they change it. Just remeber...they look kinda retarded and every time a sytem comes out you have to relearn everything for a sequal title.
Did anyone else notice that the L2 and R2 buttons appear to be tactile springed triggers? Thay totally ganked that from the Dreamcast!
Anyone who tells that Sony "stole" Nintendo controller idea demonstrates complete stupidity.
Anyone who talks about Nintendo "innovating" motion controller is profoundly ignorant.
Using sensed 3D motion for controlling games or any CG animations is an old idea that has been discussed in computer graphics and user interface R&D community since middle of 80s. The very first consumer product that used 3D motion for game interaction was Power Glove made by Mattel for Nintendo under license from VPL. VPL glove itself was developed for NASA in 1985. It helped to ignite VR craze in the early 90s. There is, however, even earlier work on 3D interaction that was done in MIT.
All this work in 80s started interest in 3D User Interfaces in 90s (3DUI) and there is a LOT of interesting projects have been done both in research and university labs. Sony research has also done some work on 3D user interfaces ? in fact in a recent (and only) book on 3DUI one of the authors is from Sony research:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0201758679/ref=sr_11_1/102-4901269-7532955?%5Fencoding=UTF8
Furthermore, Microsofot Research has also been doing things that are VERY similar to the Viii controller: http://research.microsoft.com/~awilson/wand/default.htm
Hence, Nintendo invented NOTHING. I re-phrase specifically for brainless Nintendo fans: in Viii controller Nintendo simply re-packaged and sold other people ideas. There is nothing new.
To conclude, BOTH controllers are not innovative: all they do is simply commercialize ideas that have been floating around for last decade or more. Those ideas were implemented without gyros, but using gyros for 3D tracking is hardly new: how do you think the autopilots for model planes work? You can buy small 3D rotation tracking units off-the-shelf, or you can develop yourself if you want: Analog Devices MEMS tilt sensor cost $2. So, again there is NOTHING new here!
I think I must repeat for idiots there: there is NOTHING NEW in both Vii and Sony controller. And specifically for zombies, I mean Nintendo fans: Nintendo did NOT invent motion sensing!
The decision to make motion-sensitive controllers is entirely BUSINESS decisions. And it is not a coincidence that its only now when Nintendo and Sony started developing motion sensor based controllers. VPL glove was developed in 1985 which means that patents on 3D motion sensing for games expired around 2004. So here we go.
Finally, what amazes me is that stupid Nintendo fans are all bitching about motion sensing technology which is not new at all, while completely ignoring the main innovation in Vii controller ? its unique form factor. It does not look like a game controller at all. That is true innovation and risky one ? motion sensing is not.
To those of you haters saying the gyroscope is a cheap last-minute rip-off gimmick that isn't well-integrated into the PS3 launch titles, think again:
http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/ps3/
Now that's innovation!!
The controller looks really cool. Neat idea to just add the
motion control to the standard Playstation controller, and to make it bluetooth and wireless. Now if they could just lower the price of the console...
I personally think the tilt could be very usable for driving games. And with the new L2/R2 triggers, driving games may be great with this thing.
And considering MS/Nintendo has been ripping off the dual shock since it first came out, a feature as "original" as tilt (I'm not calling the Wii controller unoriginal, I'm saying tilt is nothing new) is really not that big of a deal.
The lack of vibration kinda sucks though... although I wonder if I'll actually miss it.
I'll still be wating for a hardware backwards-compatibility device, though. The value in various PSX port hardware that I own is probably greater than a PS3.