We told you we got a little face time with these bad boys; without having spent a terribly long time using the
VX and MX Revolution, we can definitely tell you that the tactile feedback and movement of the wheel is really unlike anything you've ever experienced before on a consumer mouse. Unfortunately, knowing those lame mouse kiosks retailers have set up in their stores, you probably won't be able to really feel the difference in the wheels when you switch apps and the mouse mechanics activate (for example, Excel scrolls freely, Word ratchet scrolls). It still might take a little getting used to having that second wheel on your thumb, but at least they refrained from button overload, and the ergonomics were top notch, even if that app-switcher behind the primary wheel was a real pain to get to. Click on for some more shots of the VX and MX Revolution!
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Anton @ Aug 24th 2006 12:27PM
holy moley
where do i get one?
Rod @ Aug 24th 2006 12:28PM
There's no such thing as a mouse kiosk.
A kiosk, among other things, means an interactive computer terminal set up for public use (according to the Random House Unabridged Dictionary)
Jakg @ Aug 24th 2006 12:34PM
if the app switcher is the same as my MX1000's, i wont bother even trying it, they recessed the button so far that ive never used it intentionally!
Rod @ Aug 24th 2006 12:34PM
This thing certainly is nice though.
It's a departure from those cheap Microsoft mice many are accustomed to.
I'm convinced that Logitech makes the best consumer mice.
Balls @ Aug 24th 2006 12:35PM
Sucks that Logitech doesn't do squat for lefties.
Covert @ Aug 24th 2006 12:37PM
:|
Kiosk: a small structure with one or more open sides that is used to vend merchandise (as newspapers) or services (as film developing), according to Merriam-Webster.
A small structure with open sides displaying a mouse or two could therefore be considered a "mouse kiosk." That's so unnecessarily critical of you.
That thing puts my MX510 to shame. :(
alime @ Aug 24th 2006 12:41PM
How does it do on glass surfaces?
teo @ Aug 24th 2006 12:53PM
I feel no need to upgrade my great mx500 all the bells and whistles (read: buttons and wheels) I could ask for.
Dan @ Aug 24th 2006 12:56PM
"Sucks that Logitech doesn't do squat for lefties." Didn't they just release left-handed models of popular models, since their CEO is a lefty?
blah @ Aug 24th 2006 12:59PM
What? No bluetooth? Jesus, Logitech /rolleyes. Yeah, my TC1100 would look damn sexy with that ugly USB dongle sticking out...
Alex @ Aug 24th 2006 1:10PM
is it me or does the shape remind anyone of a dolphin or whale jumping out of the ocean? especially the first view after the jump.
anyway, im fine with my G7 cordless with 2 battery packs.
T0E TAGG3R @ Aug 24th 2006 1:31PM
@ Rod
You are a real "dumbass"
Dumbass: a real dumb person that makes an ass of himself when attempting to correct a writer that knows more about grammar than him.
Thats straight out of my dictionary.
Who the hell doesn't know what a kiosk is anyway, jeez!
Anyway I want one of these mice. I hope their not too expensive.
T0E TAGG3R @ Aug 24th 2006 1:40PM
@ Dan
WTF! IM A LEFTY! Why on earth would you want a left handed mouse? I'd feel retarded using my left hand on a mouse. That'd be like me writing with my right hand. If you want to cry about a product too difficult to use with your left cry about scissors, or baseball gloves. You wuss.
Ricky @ Aug 24th 2006 1:41PM
I dont get it, so whats the second wheel for again? Does this allow for easier left/right scrolling? Because id rather just buy a big moniter to remedy that situation.
Rod @ Aug 24th 2006 1:58PM
At the kiosk comments:
Until someone can find a more reputable dictionary the Random House Unabridged or the Oxford English Dictionary, I stand correct on the original comment that there is no such thing as a 'mouse kiosk,' at least not in the context I assume the author intended.
Random House Unabridged Dictionary
1. a small structure having one or more sides open, used as a newsstand, refreshment stand, bandstand, etc.
2. a thick, columnlike structure on which notices, advertisements, etc., are posted.
3. an interactive computer terminal available for public use, as one with Internet access or site-specific information: Students use kiosks to look up campus events.
4. an open pavilion or summerhouse common in Turkey and Iran.
5. Brit. a telephone booth.
[1615–25; < F kiosque stand in a public park Î Turk kö¨k villa < Pers k%shk palace, villa]
OED
1. An open pavilion or summerhouse of light construction, often supported by pillars and surrounded with a balustrade; common in Turkey and Persia, and imitated in gardens and parks in Western Europe.
1625 Purchas Pilgrims II. ix. 1581 Some [Rooms] also vpon the Sea side, which are called Kiosks, that is Roomes of faire prospect, or (as we terme them) banquetting Houses. Ibid. 1626 Banquetting Houses, which they call Chouskes. 1682 Wheler Journ. Greece ii. 204 A stately Chiosque, or Summer-house. 1717 Lady M. W. Montagu Let. to Mrs. Thistlethwayte 1 Apr., In the public gardens there are public chiosks, where people go+and drink their coffee, sherbet, etc. 1816 J. Scott Vis. Paris (ed. 5) 289 The great Cedar+Before it lost its top+must have nearly equalled the brass kiosk in elevation. 1863 Kinglake Crimea (1876) I. i. 20 The summer kiosks, and the steep shady gardens looking down on the straits between Europe and Asia.
2. A light ornamental structure resembling this, used for the sale of newspapers (orig. in France and Belgium), for a band-stand, or for other purposes.
1865 Daily Tel. 5 Dec. 3/4 A ‘kiosk’—i.e., a place for the sale of newspapers. 1868 Morn. Star 26 Feb., The kiosques in which the two military bands were stationed, were illuminated by lampions and electric light. 1870 W. Chambers Winter Mentone i. 13 At kiosks on the Quai+several Paris daily newspapers may be purchased. 1933 P. MacDonald Mystery of Dead Police xvii. 186 His quarry was at the change kiosk. 1963 V. Nabokov Gift iii. 156 There was+a triangular island with a kiosk, at which tram conductors regaled themselves with milk. 1964 G. Johnston My Brother Jack 36 Somehow we were able to get to the big kiosk-restaurant behind the point. Ibid. 37 The kiosk had been very late Victorian, with imitation turrets and spires. 1966 South Australian Yearbk. No. 1, 169 There are refreshment kiosk facilities. 1966 Listener 18 Aug. 227/2 Breaking into a tobacco kiosk. 1971 E. Afr. Standard (Nairobi) 10 Apr. 7/8 Most of the food sold in the kiosks is approved by medical officers.
3. = telephone kiosk.
1928 Daily Mail 25 July 19/4 It is expected that nearly 500,000 new lines will be laid, several thousand new kiosks erected, and several hundred telephones fixed at rural railway stations. 1972 ‘H. Buckmaster’ Walking Trip 197 ‘I'd better call Norman+he has a right to know.’ ‘Here's a kiosk. Have you enough change?’ 1974 M. Babson Stalking Lamb xxiv. 179 He broke off the connection, swung open the door and stepped out of the kiosk.
Rod @ Aug 24th 2006 2:01PM
Covert, I agree that I was being overly critical about minute detail.
It wasn't meant to be taken so seriously...
The above post is more meant for the dumbass above who likes to be referred to as the T0E TAGG3R.
Dansgil @ Aug 24th 2006 2:04PM
I think this mouse is RELLY ugly. I certainly won't be buying one.
Why no Bluetooth? Okay, maybe for the VX it isn't a problem, but a notebook mouse should be Bluetooth!
T0E TAGG3R @ Aug 24th 2006 2:11PM
@ ROD
People would like to post their opinions about the actual article above. Your comment is useless your still a dumbass accept it and move on. A kiosk is a latil word originally Ki-os-ko, meaning small store. Therefore "mouse kiosk" is used in its proper context JUST LIKE newspaper kiosk and refreshment kiosk.
BTW thanks for the three page history and definition of the word kiosk...a simple URL would have worked fine and would have taken up less space.
quiwi @ Aug 24th 2006 2:22PM
Just out of curiosity, do some/most/any lefthanders just use their right hand for the mouse? I figure it's just what you get used to (or train it to do).
ie. I'm right handed but my left hand is more dexterious for some specific tasks. An obvious example for me would be my left hand control when playing the violin.
Allen @ Aug 24th 2006 2:22PM
I don't know whether to comment on the mouse or provide yet another definition of kiosk.
I guess this is what happens when people have too much time on their hands.
Rod @ Aug 24th 2006 2:26PM
It's too bad you were not taught how to read in grade school.
Nowhere in those definitions does it say that kiosk is a store or of "latil" origins.
If you examined the etymology more carefully, you would have noticed that indeed it's got nothing to do with small store: Turk kö¨k villa < Pers k%shk palace, villa
However, let us, for the sake of the argument, say that kiosk does somehow mean store, the article still would not make much sense as it says "mouse kiosks retailers have set up in their stores."
Mouse stores retailers have set up in their stores?
Hmm...
Also, unfortunately these definitions don't come from a website.
For those who were educated in a higher educational setting than a community adult school, URLs are generally not considered good sources for references.
Oh and here's a better definition of dumbass:
dumb-ass (dumÆasÅ), n. Slang (vulgar).
a thoroughly stupid person; blockhead.
Also, dumbÆassÅ.
[1970–75; Amer.]
Rod @ Aug 24th 2006 2:30PM
Sorry everyone (except T0E hugger or whatever). I'm a premed suffering from neurosis with too much time on my hand since it is summer time. I didn't mean for the original comment to be taken so seriously.
Now as for the mouse, a friend of mine has one similar to this one and it's a great mouse.
PeteL @ Aug 24th 2006 2:50PM
Funny, the thumb scroll wheel has been out for a while at Contour Design. Pretty close to 3 years now if memory serves correct. And YES it does come in Left handed versions.
http://www.contourdesign.com/pmo/
B from TX @ Aug 24th 2006 2:51PM
Damn it. At first glance the top picture looked like a VR helmet. That's what I want, not some dual wheel mouse.
T0E TAGG3R @ Aug 24th 2006 2:52PM
I don't know what to say... you really did shut me up there. Hands down (after 3,416 words) you are hereby declared the winner of this arguement. Thanks for finally putting in your two cents about the mice, or mouses whatever YOU think is proper. Now let's see what others have to say.
Oh BTW that was really funny how you made fun of my name...Toe hugger! lol
RyanV @ Aug 24th 2006 3:02PM
well i for one think it looks awesome. I've been very happy with my MX1000 mouse and will gladly upgrade to the new MX - the wife can have my old one :)
Rod @ Aug 24th 2006 3:03PM
Sorry, I wasn't trying to make fun of it at all. It's just that for those of us who speak English, IDs with random numbers substituted for letters for no apparent reason make things slightly confusing.
And thank you for demonstrating logical fallcies such as ad hominem, straw man, and slippery slope.
What a fascinating person you are!
shellshockxbox @ Aug 24th 2006 3:03PM
to hit the app switcher you just need to use the middle of your finger.
Gnu @ Aug 24th 2006 3:17PM
FYI, the second wheel is probably configurable as either a zoom wheel or a horizontal scroller. Note how the VX has a zoom slider in lieu of the second wheel.
Having a second wheel for side-scrolling may be superfluous to some, but it beats the clunky and oft-malfunctioning tilt wheel concept (although I think Apple got it right when they just gave up and stuck a mini trackball in the middle instead).
brad @ Aug 24th 2006 3:33PM
@ Rod,
the point is you were wrong in your first post, and you can not accept that. Further, you used this forum to attempt to show that you knew something, or could correct something, and make yourself feel smart, (not look smart). Your usage of the term kiosk, and assumption that it has anything to do with a freestanding computer terminal, shows that you are very young and had never heard the word, prior to it being used in relation to such. the fact that you so emphatically keep trying to defend your wrong statement as correct shows that you are an early med student, that is being convinced to hold your ground when making decisions,and the fact that you proclaimed your chosen education to all, in defense of a clearly wrong statement, says even more about the self esteem that you lack. Look out the window every once in a while, the world is a big place, and nothing that you know is absolute, nor are any of your thoughts important. nor are mine.
ciao'
Rod @ Aug 24th 2006 4:13PM
Brad, I don't know how to break this to you, but that definition does not come from my knowledge, so if you want to discuss the legitimacy of a unabridged dictionary, be my guest.
And while you are at it, feel free to throw more sweeping generalizations about me or others, of which you seem to know absolutely nothing.
Edward Whishaw @ Aug 24th 2006 4:15PM
Really, really stinks that Logitech happily continue to discriminate against the left handed.
Hate hate hate hate hate the disgusting company for it.
teo @ Aug 24th 2006 4:29PM
Rod,
I agree with Brad. Please let me know what specialty you intend on practicing and what locale in the US. That way I can effectively avoid you on any future trips to that region. Because you obviously don't like to admit you're wrong and that books don't have all the answers. Humility is sometimes a more important quality in a physician rather than memorizing dictionaries.
I for one shudder at the thought of my physician treating my case that way.
brad @ Aug 24th 2006 4:30PM
That is the point, you dolt. You used one of the examples included in a dictionary, to show the proper use of a word (you said in your post "among other things") as the sole definition and basis of a correction that was wrong. You have continually tried to defend your statement as correct, when you were absolutely mistaken. Appartenly you can not read and understand the dictionary, and therefore there is no point in having this discussion. I hope you do better in med school and do not kill someone as a resident by refusing to change your mind of point of view when you are clearly in the wrong. good day sir.
Meltz @ Aug 24th 2006 4:34PM
Rod:
"Sorry, I wasn't trying to make fun of it at all. It's just that for those of us who speak English, IDs with random numbers substituted for letters for no apparent reason make things slightly confusing"
Welcome to computers (and the internet), bud! Those numbers ain't random. Someone's just too ignorant...no, wait, I best not bring up any more disputes. I'm on everyone else's side. The original context of the word "kiosk" in the article is perfectly legit.
thank you
Meltz @ Aug 24th 2006 4:36PM
sick mouse, by the way
Avi Greengart @ Aug 24th 2006 4:54PM
[checking to see if my NDA is up... yep!]
-- The side wheel is for toggling between open applications. It may be configurable for other things - I wasn't clear on that - but it's not intended as a "second" scroll wheel or for nudging objects in paint programs.
-- There is no way to use this mouse left handed. Sorry, southpaws.
-- The laser mechanism isn't the unique feature here, so if you have problems tracking on glass with your existing Logitech laser mouse, this probably won't be any better.
-- Having said that, this is an *awesome* mouse. The ability to switch on the fly between smooth scrolling for web pages (or, let it rip, and the wheel zooms you to the bottom of the page) and stepped/notched scrolling for stepping through cells in Excel... well, that's just the way a mouse ought to work.
-avi
Jeff @ Aug 24th 2006 5:44PM
"2. A light ornamental structure resembling this, used for the sale of newspapers (orig. in France and Belgium), for a band-stand, or for other purposes."
Rod, what part of "other purposes" do you not understand?
Jesus. Get a life.
BobMac @ Aug 24th 2006 5:45PM
Does anyone know how tall that thing is? My keyboard tray only allows a couple inches for a mouse.
Parker @ Aug 24th 2006 6:19PM
I've got an MX1000 and it's the best mouse I've ever used. And I've used a lot of mice. It was a bit of an investment for something as simple as a mouse -- but worth every penny. I love everything about it, except for the horizontal scroll, which is too slow and jerky (though the tilting wheel idea is ingenius). Maybe that's because I'm on a Mac, I dunno. But it's such a small complaint that it's almost not worth mentioning.
Anyway, when my MX1000 finally dies, as all mice ultimately do, maybe I should consider the Revolution. I wonder if anyone here could tell me if it handles horizontal scrolling better? If the price is right, it might make a good successor. Looks peachy keen.
CLK @ Aug 24th 2006 6:40PM
You spend $100 and they don't even give you a mouse pad!
I know it can work without one, but i'm old school like that.
Lachlan @ Aug 24th 2006 6:41PM
This mouse looks sweet! is there a corded version? i like my MX1000 but i feel that my G5 is faster in terms of performance so i use it for gaming.]
If this comes in a corded version i will definately run out and grab one from my local retail store (who have just so chosen to display it on a light ornamental structure - also known as a mouse kiosk)
Oh and Rod, STFU.
BLAH @ Aug 24th 2006 11:58PM
well - great industrial design, shitty industrial work.
Bought one today (circuit city has them in stock) - DOA.
bummer too - I totally removed m MX500 and have nothing to use as I gave it away :( ah well, that's why there are keyboard equivs.
bartheq @ Aug 25th 2006 3:24AM
Me wants it NOW! can't wait to get my hands on this baby (:
jesusbomb @ Aug 25th 2006 5:58AM
Wow -- thanks Rod (and company) for a fascinating lesson in lexical semantics. I'm sure that if we could all split these hairs a little finer, we could easily solve the world's problems. Or maybe find a cure for cancer. Or maybe invent a better laser / dual-scrollwheel / mouse-trap....
j @ Aug 25th 2006 8:25AM
"Brad, I don't know how to break this to you, but that definition does not come from my knowledge, so if you want to discuss the legitimacy of a unabridged dictionary, be my guest.
And while you are at it, feel free to throw more sweeping generalizations about me or others, of which you seem to know absolutely nothing."
You mean "an unabridged dictionary."
Another future jackass doctor. Terrific!
benderillo @ Aug 25th 2006 11:23AM
Rod = Bag of Douche
Thiago @ Jun 7th 2008 7:41PM
a.k.a Douchebag
alexander s. @ Aug 25th 2006 11:43AM
Battery life?
The Logitech site doesn't seem to mention battery life anywhere (though they did have time to put up a ton of flash animations...), makes me wonder how long the life is. Especially on the model that's intended for use with laptops.
DaMaDo @ Aug 25th 2006 8:58PM
bahI just got one from Circuit city and it's missing all but one of the pads on the bottom so the screws are exposed and it doesn't glide well at all.
Gonna have to take it back tomorrow and exchange it =/