PlayStation 3 launch delayed for Europe and others
By Thomas Ricker 
posted Sep 6th 2006 4:42AM
posted Sep 6th 2006 4:42AM
Oh man, not again. Sony just announced that the European launch of the PlayStation 3 will be delayed. So instead of seeing a worldwide launch of the PS3 in early November which nobody really expected anyway, Europe, Russia, the Middle East, Africa, and "Australasia" will see the console shipping in March. Sony blames the delay on production issues with blue laser diodes needed for the Blu-ray (and HD DVD) Disc drives. Stockholders, beware.UPDATE: According to Kaz Hirai, the production issues with the blue laser diodes will also mean that North America and Japan can only expect 500,000 units at launch. As a result, Sony has officially reduced its estimate of 4 million consoles shipped by the end of calendar year 2006 to a more conservative 2 million.
[Via Joystiq]
Typical, treating us as second rate consumers again!
It makes sense now why that pink ps2 will be making an appearance here (UK) at christmas, Sony are idiots... they knew all along.
Is the PS3 the new fusion or what?!?! It's perpetually 6 months away! Me's a saaad paaandaa :( :( :( >:@
Heh - who cares?
Europe was set to pay over the odds for it anyway!
I say let the dust settle on the US and Nippon roll-out, let all the 1st-run bugs get worked out (there are BOUND to be lots - this is Sony, remember how flakey 1st-gen PS2's were?).
It's not as if the launch line-up is that compelling anyway.
My fellow Europeans, this Christmas sit back, pour an egg-nog and switch on the Wii! By the time the European PS3 launch occurs the Blue-Ray/HD-DVD debate should be a little clearer too.
Steve
something like this was bound to happen
Doesn't affect me; I'm not going to be buying one of them anyway. Sony are dead in the water. My local GAME store is scheduled to only get 2-5 PS3s (Yes, 2-5 for a busy game retailer expected to sell thousands)
Hah, Sony really hasn't done one thing right in a long time... It's too bad; I love the 360 (a lot) but i was interested to see if something better might come along... This doesn't say it won't be better, but with as much as they've been screwing up, i wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't all they cracked it up to be...
-Taylor
That just gives us europeans more time to spend with Nintendo Wii, if they're holding on to their release schedule.
Bad move Sony... treat your customers with contempt and they won't be your customer for long. What's the odds that when it eventually (assuming it ever does) launch in Europe the price has gone up even further becuse the dollar strengthens or they don't get the yield on thier clearly difficult to produce components?
I was going to pick one up and a nice new Bravia as well... Looks like they've jsut lost £1500 worth of business. Maybe I'll pickup an XBox at lunchtime instead...
And once again Sony dons the steel toecapped boots and takes a good ol' swing at the collective crotch of European gamers...
A few thoughts:
1) Bet the retail channel is particularly unhappy this morning as they'd already started the PS3 preorder hype.
2) Ninty and MS on the other hand must have already put in for planning permission on the new money bin. MS especially must not believe their good luck at getting two christmas seasons as the premier console for shiny graphics to themselves.
3) Wonder how badly this might affect Blu-Ray take up in Europe as HD-DVD arrives before christmas, especially if MS get the add-on drive for the 360 out in numbers?
4) March 2007 you say? Hmm, wait, isn't there another '3' coming out around then... Hako 3 or something like that wasn't it?
5) Someone who probably will be celebrating is Redoctane. Guitar Hero 2 might see a BIG rise in sales if gamers have to hang on to their PS2's for a while longer.
6) And finally, who the HELL is going to drop £500+ (including a game or two) in March other than the true 'hardcore' gamers? Everyone will still be recovering from Christmas and that seems like a LOT of cash to drop on a birthday present for little Timmy...
This is not a surprise after Sony's track record and will no doubt give more weight and a stronger case to those who say Sony is treating the UK & Europe like second class customers.
I'd hate to see the reation if Sony decide to make the selling price in Europe more expensive after this huge delay.
Aww fuck. Just when i though the wait was over. Now this
me thinks that the Americans pressured Sony into this.
"no ps3 for you[Australia]!"
seriously, does this mean the psp download service will also be delayed?
We lose irwin now we lose getting the ps3 before america:
whats next?
Ha. Not surprised.
Why is Australasia in quotation marks though?
It's a continent!
Well at least by then the firmware released to European models will have the most up-to-date revision. 4 months should be enough time to fix any issues with the US/Japan release....Not that there should be anything wrong with a machine that whose official release has been delayed twice and has been in development for several years.
Any doubts I had of getting one just dissipated... No chance, I get something else. Probally Wii beside the very poor choice of not launching in Europe after having announce a woorld-wide launch... Launching in March??? Too soon after the holidays... not at all clever. Like many families will be willing to buy a "toy" costing 600 or more euros then.
AP is reporting that Sony will only have 400,000 units available for US launch, 100,000 for Japanese.
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/09/06/business/AS_FIN_COM_Japan_Sony_PlayStation.php
ouch!
I can't believe anyone will want to buy this heap o junk if it ever arrives.
Sony have been burning their loyal fans for too long.
Oh Well, I suppose it was expected news, seeing as production hadn't even started the other day. I agree with Randell's comments that it might be a blessing in disguse for us Europeans to let the dust settle and allow the problems associated with a new console to iron themselves out. also other issues like the HD DVD/Blu-Ray battle as the machiines and films start to hit the U.K shores.
I just can't wait to see what prices the US/Japanese PS3 will go for on Ebay for any hungry Europeans wanting to get their hands early on it.
"AP is reporting that Sony will only have 400,000 units available for US launch, 100,000 for Japanese."
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/09/06/business/AS_FIN_COM_Japan_Sony_PlayStation.php
So, that only leaves 5.5 million more units needed to reach the international target of 6 million by March 2007? Umm, OK. Sure.
This was always on the cards. Sony like to treat the PAL regions with utter contempt and charge higher prices. Sony need to fire the people who have patently lied (and knew about this) for the last 12 months in the hope of holding off people buying a 360. This has backfired spectacularly for them. Also Kutaragi said this morning that Sony aim to ship 2 million PS3's worldwide by the end of this year... Now my limited geography says US and Japan only DOES NOT equal worldwide. The guy needs to to back to class. The bigger ramification of this fiasco is Software. Many developers have deployed phenomenal resources in getting "European" games ready for November, on which their earnings are dependant. This will be pretty bleak news for them indeed, and I am pretty sure Sony will have kept them totally in the dark. This generation Sony, even with their user base will not come out of it on top. Oh and i recommend Mr Stringer fires the whole PS3 PR team.
Poor Europeans always get screwed anyways. . .
Maybe Sony can make the PS3 cost (US Price) + VAT only to make amends rather then charging ridicilous fees like all the other consoles on market.
Dissapointing behaviour from Sony! Why is it that Europe gets it last? Surely were closer to Japan than the US????
They should just delay it worldwide and launch it next year at $400 with a good spec boost.
I just thought, maybe this was done on purpose seeing as HD-DVD and BluRay products are just now rolling out in Europe (after IFA that is)... so maybe they want to start selling when the market has established itself? Hopefully selling other BluRay equipment first?
I don't understand all the "ooh gee I didn't know" "oh golly gee this is a shock!" "wow I"m surprised" listen morons the PS3 has been a vaporconsole from the get-go. I wouldn't even count on a march '07 launch... even if it does, expect it to go the way of the 3D0. The PS3 was a cute concept if only they'd actually gotten it out before the XBOX360. Unfortunately, XBOX360 has its jaw firmly locked onto the video-gaming public like a pit-bull, and no half-assed overpriced vapor box from japan is going to be able to unlock those jaws. SHAME on you Sony. You make good TV's (i just love your Ruby projector sitting in my living room) but your video-game-console ERA ended with the PS2. Better luck next time around with the PS4.
-JiggSaw
Damn. Bang goes my huge ebay-markup-profit, selling the console I didn't really want anyway to some sucker in time for xmas.
Stoopid Sony ! That's no doubt cost me a few hundred quid. Pre-order cancelled...
March 07 - doubt it.
There will be another mandatory delay whilst they scramble to "fix" the DRM when it will be inevitably cracked within a few weeks/days/hours when its launched in Japan/US.
And then when it is launched there will be huge supply issues as the lion's share of production will probably go the US.
Basically I reckon you're not going to be able to get your hands on a PS3 in the EU - without having to wait or pay over the odds etc - until around Q3 07.
I used to be a hardcore playstation fan boy but I'll be getting a Wii for sure this time around. Maybe I'll pickup a PS3 when they are on for a tenner on ebay.
WOW, biggest.sony.mistake.ever. They just handed Nintendo this generation in a plate. Nintendo will sell atleast 3 million of these babies before year end in Japan alone, and just like the PSP, it's see you later from then on.
Nintendo's gona love this. It was already looking like a big Wii Xmas in Europe, and now this!
I fail to see how this is Sony's fault. I'll admit that it is a little shortsighted to not get a backup source for the blue laser diodes but this was bound to happen since HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players are also gearing up for the holiday season. I'm not a Sony Fanboy, more excited about the Wii, but it seems that a lot of people are calling foul on Sony when it's clearly a parts issue.
Sony have killed it they are dead for SURE in Europe. By time it comes out the majority of people will already own Wii60! SONY! 2 year advantage to 360!
SONY! R.I.P :(
who care xbox360 is £199, should be £10-£20 cheaper by xmas and wii would be about £150 or less. so sony kiss my candy as**
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But Sony must have known that parts might be an issue for a long time, they dangled the carrot of a 2006 launch in Europe to stop 360 sales this year. I have a feeling, that they have lost a lot of good will in Europe. I will be able to wait, providing that the Wii is released before Christmas and Pro Evo Soccer does not look too good on the 360.
@ DAN
Well maybe they wouldn't have a parts issue if they didn't include a bluray drive in the console. Microsoft opted not to put an HD DVD because they wanted consumers to have a fair say in the next generation format. MS did not shove it in your face and say THIS is the format you will have to buy! Clearly SONY wanted the biggest piece of the pie, they wanted not only to have the best next console but also the next format. GREEDY GREEDY and they wanted us to pay for it too. Now they get NOTHING...atleast from me anyway.
It *is* Sony's fault.
Only Sony could put a console into production, claim that 4 million consoles will be manufactured by the end of 2006, then halve that number 2 months before launch - and then claim that only 500,000 units will be available on November 17th, much below their original estimate.
They've lied about release dates and numbers before - and, shock horror, they're doing it again.
I wouldn't have minded a more solid launch schedule next year, or a more realistic set of numbers - but no, that's too much to ask for.
I mean, nobody's actually had a chance to play one yet, to tell us if it's worth waiting or not. I guess that's a good thing - you guys in the US and Japan can tell us lot in the EU if it's worth waiting until March, eh? :)
Even so - all this does is turn us EU gamers away. I don't give a shit if this is a manufacturing problem - this smacks of incompetency. We had the same bullshit with the PSP (y'know, absorbing the entire EU stock for the US market before the original launch date here, which was pushed back again) - so I'm not surprised they're just sticking it to us again.
Well, fuck you too Sony. Evidently, by your strategy, we're insignificant, not worthy of a worldwide release anymore - so I'll take my money elsewhere, yeah?
... Roll on, Wii release.
hey, tombland, just to correct an easy mistake, australia is not a continent, Oceania is (includes New Zealand and some more islands)
Don't worry, at those numbers, even Americans will be clawing each other to get a PS3. 500,000 at launch for 127,417,244 people of Japan and 295,734,134 people of the US?? So fewer than 1 in a 1000 will a see a PS3 this year.
Everything that Sony could do to eff up, they've done. I'd rather give my money to Microsoft and happily play Halo 2 on a game console that's been out for over a year (by the time PS3 finally ships) that wait to get eff'ed over by Sony. Sony deserves to get reamed financially. They're doing everything they possibly can to piss off their customers.
It all becomes clearer now..what with the hints like no pre-order scheme for europe worked even though console 8 weeks from launch.
Or do you remember Pro Evo and Fifa exclusive to xbox 360 in EUROPE for 12 months...yes because they KNEW the PS3 was gonna be delayed, i cant believewe didnt see it coming...
Anyway GREAT news as i own a 360! and gonna get a wii
Ahhh here we go again, yet another problem with the PS3.
Any faith I had left in Sony has just been blown away. Why did they even bother with Blu-ray? What the heck was wrong with a traditional DVD drive??? It works doesnt it? Blu-ray will probably fail anyway.
1. Why would anyone want to pay for an overpriced console that will be months old when it actually launches in europe when they can just get a cheaper 360 or Wii?
2. It isnt going to have any decent games lined up for it, whereas the 360 will have had its next wave of great games and the wii is made by nintendo so naturally its going to have good games.
3. It looks like a bread bin or George Foreman grill, come on that thing is damn ugly for a next gen console.
To be honest I don't think anyone will care that it is going to be a few months late, people with any sense wont be buying the damn thing!
Sony have screwed up big time, I am sticking with my 360 and eventually I am getting the Wii. I don't want Sony's garbage can of a console!
"AP is reporting that Sony will only have 400,000 units available for US launch, 100,000 for Japanese.
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/09/06/business/AS_FIN_COM_Japan_Sony_PlayStation.php
ouch!"
It is just a way to generate more buzz. The news will be full of stories about the "must have toy of the season" and Sony will get more adertising out of it than a billion $$ could ever buy.
I think this is the end of the Playstation. WAYYYYYYYYY too much negative news.. First,the price. Really, that alone could deter a lot of people. Second, games. They are losing all of their exclusive licenses. (IE. Final Fantasy, GTA to name a few) Third, just recently, the load times are going to be slow. Slower, by quite a bit, than it's rival 360. Now, for most of the world, delayed. For the rest that will be getting it on time will be getting fewer.
I think that the Wii alone will blow away this system. This about it, it's basically the opposite of all the PS3's flaws. Cheaper, faster, wayyyyy BETTER press/news/buzz.
Is anyone forgeting that not only is there going to be 500,000 units but prolly half that will be the stripped down non hdmi version.. ? So really there is something like 250k of the version that everyone wants.. talk about crappy.. wii60 is the way to go this round..
Good move on Sony's part. Trying to launch worldwide with only 1,000,000 units would be a very bad move. Xbox 360 actually launched with less, but they have no Japanese market so it really didn't matter too much.
500,000 units for US launch will still make it extremely hard to find. With over twice the resolution of 360, double the color depth, and the cheapest non-crippled HD player on the market, PS3 will likely have the videophiles fighting with the gaming enthusiasts to get one. I only hope Sony has a 1.3 HDMI LCD TV scheduled for release alongside it or we'll have to wait until next year for those advantages I listed above to mean anything!
(For those who don't know, there are no true 1080p sets on the market right now. True 1080p will only be achieved by connecting a 1.3 HDMI playback device to a 1.3 HDMI display. Toshiba's first 1.3 HDMI HD-DVD player will cost ~$900, basically eliminating the cost difference between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. Want a crap-ass "next-gen" HD player without 1080p, half the color depth, no DVD upscaling, and no support for lossless soundtracks? Buy the Xbox 360 add-on drive. Want all the features listed above? Buy a PS3!)
JET
Umm, has the PS3 been developed by the people doing Vista? It seems similar. Supposed to look good when it arrives, costs a lot of money and is constantly being delayed.
Well, I am not surprised in the least. I also don't think that they (Sony) will make their release date either. You know that Bill Gates has a big smile on his face right now. MS and Nintendo are going to own this holiday season and MS is going to have a HUGE lead over everybody in the next gen console wars.
Game developers must be furious.. I would not be surprised to see more 360 exclusive games coming out in the near future. I am not even sure that Sony will own Japan anymore with all of the hype the Wii is making, and the fact that the PS3 is so expensive.
@JET
way to go for appealing to videophiles, HD enthusiasts and an pigeonholed market...The vast majority of people world-wide can do without HD for another 2 years at least...
The fact that Sony is enforcing these requirements on the consumer is more pressure to spend spend spend, which is going to be unfavourable in the long run, especially at 600 bucks a pop. Whereas the 360, and the Wii will perform great still with current gen material.
I'm running 'HD' for my 360 through my PC Monitor...sucks really for the people wanting 'TRUE HD' as this isn't an option, even though the difference at those resolutions and colour depths is so minute that only the anally retentive need apply.
Haha, yeah, they totally gave Nintendo a huge advantage. Despite the stupid name, the Wii has a lot of momentum behind it and I think the launch is going to be huge. It'll only get better as developers have time to really figure out what they can do with the hardware.
I love all video games and I know I'll get a PS3 eventually... This is good, gives me more time to save money for it, I guess. And it makes me feel better about picking up a Wii right away.
@ipxdude
I know the majority of the world can live without HD for the next two years. But being a console gaming enthusiast, a videophile and a movie fanatic, I'm really looking forward to PS3. Microsoft has done an excellent job in convincing the world there will be a negligible difference between 360 and PS3, but it simply isn't so. Sony has repeatedly promised to exceed expectations with PS3 and I believe they will. If you don't want one for two years, fine - there will still be plenty of great games for the other systems between now and then. The price will drop by then as well. But it is all a matter of perspective: In these days of $800 TIVOs, I can't believe the PS3 is so cheap. $600 for a high-end movie & game system is unreal.
I've got a second 360 (and a Dreamcast) connected to a PC monitor as well, and it looks pretty nice. But c'mon, it is not 1080p with 48-bit color, and to say only the anally retentive could tell the difference is silly.
JET
Ah! forget this piece of Sh!t. The way this is going, the machine will NEVER be release in 2006, period!
Constant dissapointments, false release dates and defective overpriced products is what Sony does best.
Every retailer will grab the PS3s from the stockroom and sell it on eBay.
JET = SONY REPRESENTATIVE trying to put spin on the bad news.
Audio/Videophiles are a dying breed. I think it's ridiculous that there is even a market for people who want to spend exorbitant amounts on something you eventually get desensitized to anyway. Think about it, how long did it take for that amazing picture quality/graphics to fade until you were left with nothing but content (take older gen systems for example, they looked awesome when they came out, but your eyes got used to it and the luster faded). Sure, you can spend $5000 on a new home theater to get 1080p, but does it really make the games/movies more fun? If it's a shitty game running at 1080p, it might look great but it's still a shitty game...
Am I the only one not excited at all about the PS3 and much more interestd in the Xbox 360 and Wii? Sony seems to have not just missed the boat, but showed up at the wrong coastline.
I mean I bought a DS instead of a PSP because there aren't any games that interested me, while the DS seems to consistently coming out with some fun stuff.
What am I missing?
man, im going to sell the shit out of this on ebay, I'm numberz 1z in line at FYE, I know they will get atleast one of these puppies and this thing is going straight on ebay. wiii pay for college another year
Jet, most PS3 games will render at 720P (and then be scaled for 1080 displays). Games that do render at 1080 will do so at the cost of simpler scenes. Though only time will prove the point, an article on Spong today discusses this.
I used to think fanboys had it all wrong, but Sony, really.. this is just teetering on sloppy and unprofessional.
They're afraid to go the way of Sega, because their franchises are mockerys of the company itself.
@Jet
48bit color won't be around for another couple years even though the hdmi 1.3 standard can do it(I think they are opting for 32). Most games will not be 1080p. Actually I have a monitor than can accept 1080p w/ hdcp through hdmi and dvi :)(samsung and a few other companies also have a couple out on the market) and even I am not that excited about it. At 42" you have to be sitting around 7' or closer to really see a benefit and I don't think the extra color will be an even small factor for another 2-3 years with the adoption of LED lcd's, SED & OLED. Oh and as a videophile I doubt I will eve use a ps3 as a movie player, even if I already owned one, as I doubt it will not be even close to a stand alone player in regards to quality. Even though I have a 360 I will buy a dedicated HD-DVD player if that formats wins for $900 instead of a $200 for a addon if there is a noticable difference. Oh, and HD-DVD is owning blu-ray in terms of PQ at 1080i (samsungs isn't even native but upconverted to 1080p) and we won't get a chance to see what blu-ray can do until fox releases there mpeg4 disks in a few months. Your a videophile?
There's not even a ghost of a doubt left that this is not completely intentional. The original shortage of PlayStation 2s created pandemonium as people scrambled and fought to get them, which turned out to be absolutely brilliant for PR. Sony has decided that since the ploy worked last time, consumers will be none the wiser this time. Shipping 400,000 units to the ENTIRE UNITED STATES is not a supply problem, it is a supply decision.
Sony, whatever they may have been in the past, is immoral, deceitful, scheming, insulting and unworthy of our trust -- and especially our money.
Does anyone know how many each big chain usually gets? 400,000 seems like each BB or CC would get 1 or 2. And we know thier employees are getting those.
We in the UK pay the MOST for the console and yet have to wait till LAST to get it...
No wonder people are annoyed...
It was obviously going to happen...
It did with the PSP, and it will do with the PS4.
Stupid delays.
ShMeE
... and where can I preorder one? I want to be in that first 500,000 !
Sony will have a hit on their hands, and all this will seem like a faint memory in 6 months time. New console launches always run into snags.
I really hope everyone here that says they're not interested in PS3 really isn't interested...but yet I have a feeling getting a PS3 this November will be much harder than getting a 360 last November (even though there will be more PS3s than there were 360s).
For Shunnabunich, 360 launched with right about 400,000 units last year and every Wal-Mart in my area (Louisville, KY) received 12-20, Target had 12, Best Buy had 32, and EB had 8. EB and Target had great success holding back units and selling them in bundles online, so I expect they'll do that to a greater extent with PS3. Wal-Mart and Best Buy are your best bets, but get in line early; 360 sold out at both 14 hours before release.
If you have $1500-2000, no worries. You'll find them readily available in online bundles with loads of games you don't want. I expect eBayers will have a litter harder time selling systems this year because they'll be competing with readily available online bundles.
And despite what some have suggested, I am in no way affiliated with Sony. I'm actually more excited about Wii than PS3! Yes, despite its low res graphics.
JET
News for 1080p fan boys: more is not always better.
Your eye can only determine the most minute difference in a 720p to 1080p image on a TV that could posibly fit in your living room. At even 60", the difference will be very negligable. The resolution is not the most important factor in image quality, it's the compression in the signal, and a consistent frame rate for real time content. PS3 will have plenty of frame rate to throw around, which will only get better over time as it did with the PS2. To add to this, when your brain perceives fast motion, it's only going to look at certain points in the image as opposed to the entire image-- essentially wasting the bandwidth used to pump out a ton of pixels that don't do anything.
Fact: 720p has 400% more pixels than a standard defintion broadcast, and it's progressive scan. 1080p will have more-- but consider the spatial area of your TV set. 1080p, while nice if you can sit 20 feet away from a 70" TV set, is visibily identical to sitting 13 feet away from a 50" set unless you can afford the immersion a larger set with 1080p would provide. That's the only compelling benefit.
Your friends will claim they see the difference. They will be wrong. You will have to decide for yourself if the exceptionally marginal increase in quality will really make a damn bit of difference for yourself.
I like the PS3. I don't think 1080p gives it an edge over the 360 at all. What gives it the edge is that it's not PC games on my TV-- I have a PC for that. It's console games with original titles. It's quality. Time will tell if they deliver on that promise, but you can bet your ass the first 10m+ units of the PS3 will sell just as well as the would have the day they announced a PS3 as they will right now.
I think Sony's plan is to miss this generation. I bought my 360 at the end of 2005 and I'll be able to buy (maybe) a ps3 at the end of 2007. 2 years later!!!
Europeans need to come out with their own console and screw the rest of us some time.
oh my gorsh! 500,000 in NA and Japan. That's insane! Man, I should preorder one of these ASAP and sell it on ebay afterwards. I could make a friggin' mint!
"I fail to see how this is Sony's fault. I'll admit that it is a little shortsighted to not get a backup source for the blue laser diodes but this was bound to happen since HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players are also gearing up for the holiday season. I'm not a Sony Fanboy, more excited about the Wii, but it seems that a lot of people are calling foul on Sony when it's clearly a parts issue."
THIS IS CLEARLY SONY'S FAULT!!!! A BLU-RAY DRIVE IS NOT NECESSARY TO HAVE GREAT GRAPHICS THAT THE PS3 PROMISED! SONY SCREWED UP BY GAMBLING ON BLU-RAY!!! NOW THEY MUST SUCK MS'S PENIS!
Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Sony is just a wave of bad news each week. I guess this means all those providing Blu-Ray movies will have a tough time this year. I'd also expect that Sony's own stand alone Blu-Ray player will be scarce.
This is beginning to look like a fiasco.
Sony can never keep their word and its gonna bite them in the butt big time. They're are not going to win this console war with promise after promise and then not being able to deliver.
I looked up the origins of the word 'Sony' today, All I could came up with, was this,
ha‧ra-ki‧ri[hahr-uh-keer-ee, har-uh-, har-ee-]
–noun
1. Also called seppuku. ceremonial suicide by ripping open the abdomen with a dagger or knife: formerly practiced in Japan by members of the warrior class when disgraced or sentenced to death.
2. suicide or any suicidal action; a self-destructive act: political hara-kiri.
Also, hari-kari.
I admit, I used to be a Sony fan boy but now it's a case of 'BABAS' Buy Anything But A Sony.
I totally agree with Kamalot... Due to Wii´s low price and DS´ popularity, Nintendo will dominate the Japanese market...
And all of those that are geting some money together to buy a new Video game for the holydays in Europe (like me) are going to spend their money on the Wii60 combo... I thought about getting a Wii and PS3 but that does it... Im getting a 360 and Wii now... Dead Rising and Gears of war sounds more fun than any PS3 launch title I´ve seen so far anyway...
Say hello to Blu-ray... The new Betamax... I believe that the PS3 is going to be huge nonetheless but making so many F*ck-ups to your costumers (and loyal fans) have a limit...
I hope that Microsoft and Nintendo take advantage of this...
SONY’S BIG MISTAKE IS THAT THIS IS REALLY A PS4! THE MISSING LINK PS3 WOULD HAVE LOOKED SOMETHING LIKE THIS:
1. BlueRay - OUT | 50x DVD ROM - IN
2. CELL Processor - OUT | 2 Dual Core Processors - IN
3. Bluetooth - OUT | RFx2 - IN
4. GPU - Stays
5. Physx PPU - Stays
ALL OTHER HARDWARE STAYS
TOTAL COST = $299.99
Is BlueRay really needed for compelling gameplay and nextgen graphics? NO! We would rather not wait for the 10min 1x or 2x load times. Why CELL? Especially when some consoles will be approved and shipped without all cores functioning (what is it 6 of 8 gets a pass?). The existing GPU coupled with 2 Dual core CPUs enhanced by a PPU IS nextgen! Bluetooth? Who cares! There are 2000dpi laser gaming mice that use RF and they are plenty precise. All of this can easily be wrapped up for under $350!
NOW SONY WE ARE NOT UNGRATEFUL. We appreciate what you are trying to do. The problem is that you are trying to play “long ball” in a “short ball” world. You will NOT get 10 years out of this box. The Console life span has shrunken and your competition knows this. The mistake of long ball is by the time the devs start to get into the machine’s capability (say 5 years out) the competition would have moved on to the X-Box 780 and Wii x2.
You more than anyone knows that TECHNOLOGY FOLDS EVERY 6 MONTHS. All one needs to do is look at the Wii controller and how it has impacted gaming without a single console being shipped. The future gaming landscape will be littered with cutting edge technology that push the envelope and comes to market much quicker, and trying to front load a console with bleeding-edge hoping to get 10 years is, well, silly!
Now if the PS3 is simply a “test bed” and your ultimate long term goal is to get BLUERAY in homes and CELL in a multitude of devices then ignore all that has been said above. We as gamers however, simply want to, well, play games and these incessant delays and shortages will only help to “drive us in the arms” of others!
THE NEW GAME IS SHORT BALL AND APPLE, MS & NINTENDO ARE ALL PLAYING IT. WHEN WILL YOU?? WE DIDN’T NEED A PS4. PS3 WOULD HAVE SUFFICED!
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AND JUST IN CASE YOU NEED ANOTHER REMINDER, OH, NEVER MIND!
I'm a sony fan but I hope the xbox do some serious damage this time, so that they stop toying with us!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Suckers! If you buy PS3 after this, just write the word "Sucker" across your forehead, so everyone will know you got taken for a ride on the Sony PR train.
Did you REALLY not see this coming? Please....
I can't afford it anyway. I have to wait until the prices drop. but I hate the 360 and the Wii sounds babyish, and we dont eat eggnog in england. I dont even know what it is.
But I agree, being treated as second rate customers again just isnt fair,
Is this another ploy for Sony to "create" constraint of a hot product? I foresee people preordering and selling on eBay for ridiculous prices.
The first game consoles off the assembly line have historically had a rather bad track record. Add in the fact that Blu-Ray already has several news items about difficulties coming out of the gate. And add in the fact that this whole manufacturing of the PS3 seems to be rife with difficulties. I don't see how anyone cannot see the handwriting on the wall with this one = a whole lot of problems with the first PS3's for sale. I agree with anyone who wants to buy one early and put it on ebay, because not only will you see a tidy profit, but you will probably escape a whole lot of headache.
"...the competition would have moved on to the X-Box 780 and Wii x2...."
360 x 2 = 780? Your maths is deliciously baffling!
JET = TOOL
"Microsoft has done an excellent job in convincing the world there will be a negligible difference between 360 and PS3, but it simply isn't so. Sony has repeatedly promised to exceed expectations with PS3 and I believe they will."
I love how Sony has repeatedly promised Jet... man you're a fool. I think everyone is venting on this thread because Sony over promises and under delievers.
It's more than Microsoft saying there will be negligible differences between the 360 & PS3. It's also the developers of these systems. Plus no one has even played a PS3 game yet. Plus most of the PS3 launch games are just touched up Xbox 360 launch titles.
sony is having serious problems, Microsoft has a history of illegal activities and runs around like a bully in a playground, nintendo make games for little kiddies.
take your pick. or better still, go buy a book and have a nice read.
waddo
http://www.waddo.net/
PS3 + eBay = ChaChing$$$$
I think Nintendo has really done a nice job with their marketting. My wife never would have touched a video game but now she loves the Nintendo DS because of the Touch Generation games and she's interested in the Wii also.
Even if Nintendo does not become number 1 this generation, they will certainly become the most memorable player of this generation.
@Keith Waddington,
Stop frontin’ like you DON’T own a DS? You’re NOT fooling anybody.
i see alot of people complaining about the cost of the system...but if you think about it, by the time the ps3 is released in europe the price will probly have dropped...one of the reasons for the high price is that besides the ps3 hardware, it is also packing an entire ps2 chipset, because sony is still trying to perfect a software emulator for backwards compatibilty for the ps2 games
AHAHA! WHOA! people are sooo clueless! Everyone is so hyped up on the specs that they don't even know what they want.
One of the earlier posters (I think JET) was all hyped up about the 48bit colour-depth that the 1.3 HDMI spec will offer, that he does not understand that the HUMAN EYE CAN ONLY DETECT 24000000 colour variations which is the equivalent of 24bit color scaling.
So if you are going to believe every filth that they feed u, then the $600 excuse of a console is for you. I mean come on, this delay just makes it above and beynd retarded to invest in the PS3. Think about it, everyday that passes, the PS3 stats become more and more stale. Imagine, by March, everytime you go to a computer store and u see all the shiney computers with kick-ass graphics that are months newer, when you do finally get your PS3 with high expectations, it suddenly wont look so good because you would have seen better in stores.
This is exactly why it makes it so important to be out the door the earliest. The competition is not only between consoles people. Its in the fact that when you see something better even in a completely unrelated system such as a PC, the PS3 won't look so good in comparison...
PS3 is gona kick Xbox 360's ass. PS3 has beter graphics than Xbox 360. The bru-ray can hold upto 10 times the DVDs and more then HD-DVD, does Xbox 360 had bru-ray drive? i dont think tho. great games like GTA4 comming out november 2007 for PS3 and Xbox 360, its gona be great on PS3 compaired to xbox one. the movies maight be maid on HD-DVDs but Bru-ray would be beter for games and software.
This allways happends with all systems sony or nintendo or Microsoft. It's all about supply and demand you try comeing out with a next gen system and see if you can meet the demands of the whole world lol.It's worth the wait just make sure you get a good warranty with your system all new computer products have bugs thats just the way it is you can't test all 5 million of the systems that are going to be shipped over the next year lol.Good luck everyone