Sprint's PPC-6800 dubbed the Mogul?

It's bad enough that nearly every HTC handset that makes its way into a carrier's lineup inevitably gets rebadged and renamed, but this one's sure to make you scratch your head. Just hours after hearing that the handset is likely to miss its May launch by a few months, we've now caught wind of an interesting teaser site that leaves little doubt about what phone is behind the silhouette. Interestingly, the Sprint, HTC, and Qualcomm sponsored site boldly states that the pictured device is not the PPC-6800, but rather the Mogul. It then continues on by insinuating that this 007-esque gizmo can handle just about any mission you task it with, but fails to provide any concrete information beyond that. Hey, you've got to find some way to keep interests piqued until October, eh?

[Simon @ May 10th 2007 9:41AM]

Hey RandomThoughts, if you would provide the link to die deutsche webseite I guess someone who speakenz ze deutsch would be so kind as to translate it for you ;)

[Jim F. @ May 10th 2007 8:57AM]

That's not a silhouette. A silhouette would not have any sort of line detail, it would simply be the outline of the device against a neutral background.

[Gaines @ Jun 28th 2007 7:28PM]

If you're looking into buying a Mogul or already have one, you might find this site useful.
http://www.SprintMogul.net

[Alan Strangis @ May 10th 2007 9:14AM]

OH NOZZZ! The d-pad is on the top of the phone!

PS: Seriously, I generally don't believe the hype (thanks Public Enemy), but HTC... c'mon they're the smartphone kings. I can wait, though my Wizard is starting to feel it's age.

[bob cobb @ May 10th 2007 9:27AM]

why do they have it upside down in the middle pic? the buttons are always on the bottom

[Dan @ May 10th 2007 10:28AM]

Well that site (a) isn't in German (b) has the string "mogel" in it, but the phone is the "Mogul" so it has nothing really to do with what we are looking at.

[boe @ May 10th 2007 10:47AM]

Badges, we don't need no stinkin' badges! Considering how antiquated the technology is, hard to understand the hype other than the fact Sprint customers in the country only have the 2 year old PPC6700 for a direct comparison. Considering the HTC made the Universal 2 years ago and while it was an even bigger brick than the 6700, it makes me wonder why HTC is so far behind the other companies making small VGA pda phones with video out, fully enabled GPS chips, usb 2.0 (not talking about BT - USB). http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdalist&list=vga

Comparison of the 6700 and the 6800
6700 slightly faster processor
6800 faster video
6700 faster memory
6800 more memory
6700 BT 1.2
6800 BT 2.0
Battery unknown - reports are a LI-On battery but our brothers to the north got a Li-Po(good) battery
6800 slimmer

No VGA - QVGA same as 6700 only brighter - still can't be used outside in sunlight - pity - WM6 allows you to read all formatted e-mail as HTML - try browsing the web at 240x320 - frustrating to say the least.

USB 1.x - when did USB 2.0 come out?

No fully enabled GPS - shame would be great for google earth, live search and other free nav programs.

[MasterCKO @ May 10th 2007 12:37PM]

Wait, how would the screen being VGA improve the ability to use it out in the sunlight? Seems worse, cuz there's even MORE information that you wouldn't be able to see. Also, browsing the web is fine for me on the 6700. I have used a VGA PDA before and browsing on the web was nice, but nothing to write home about. Especially since a lot of major sites autodetect that I'm on a PDA and give me the mobile version anyway. Oooooh snap, a TEXT-ONLY site in VGA, awesome.

And seeing as how the official HTC spec sheet (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/Documents/PPC6800Sprint.pdf) doesn't mention the type of USB connector used, I suspect the info from the site that you are looking at on that front is from them putting USB 1.1 as a default value. The 6700 has USB 2.0. Really, what are the chances that they would step back?

Also, the processor is "slower" in terms of Hz, but it's supposed to be "better" in overall performance due to improvements in design.

The only point you made that's really worth anything is the lack of GPS. I agree with you there. But hey, maybe they'll surprise us (yeah, right).

In any case, all this information has been available in one form or another for months. The people who have already decided that they want the 6800 know this stuff. You're not adding anything. Despite your best efforts, you won't change the mind of any Sprint user who's looking forward to this device.

[boe @ May 10th 2007 1:06PM]

I never said VGA had anything to do with reading in the sunlight - please brush up on your reading comprehensions skills before injecting your inferences.

Since MOST web sites don't detect mobile browsing yet (a fact) VGA browsing is significantly better.

Since that PDF is not definitive, I will not use it as my only source of information but I can see you don't like much information so please go on living and dying by that single pdf.

The 6700 is USB 1.1, it is USB 2.0 compatable just as the BT 1.2 in the 6700 is 2.0 compatable - not the same thing.

It is slower based on a composite benchmark of opening apps, closing them, copying pasting etc. Not based on MHz

Glad that was the only point I made worth anything - your opinion means a great deal to me.

[colonel @ May 10th 2007 12:01PM]

"Interestingly, the Sprint, HTC, and Qualcomm sponsored site boldly states that the pictured device is not the PPC-6800, but rather the Mogul. It then continues on by insinuating that this 007-esque gizmo can handle just about any mission you task it with, but fails to provide any concrete information beyond that."

Um, where are you seeing this? Should I have used my Decoder Ring? The site fails to provide any concrete information about anything. This was probably a promotional site. The reason it talks about your email is because it you probably had to click on a link in an email originally to get to the site.

[Dan @ May 10th 2007 3:32PM]

We can argue all we want, you can show me specs on devices that are available in Europe and Asia all you want.. But simply the 6800 will be the best PPC/Phone available to US consumers. We all want more, but the US cell phone industry has something up their @ss so not much we can do except buy the newest thing and be happy with it... or sit around all day complaining.

If I could get a P4000 unlocked and somehow activate it on Sprint I would.. and if I could get an I-Mate 8150 or a Sharp W-Zero3 I might consider going to Cingular.. but the fact is that I can't.

[boe @ May 10th 2007 5:26PM]

Dan sounds like we are in agreement however both ETEN and IMATE plan to sell directly in the US so unlike in the past where you had to order from Hong Kong or Europe for the better overseas phone, you'll be able to by them here in the US! I'm not sure how or where they will do it but I read that on both of their sites, I'm guessing just web sales but I don't know yet.

I have a very good deal with Sprint for pricing and I can't complain about the cellular network for the areas I am in however getting much more advanced equipment if I can get reasonable deal from ATT is very very tempting even though I know the plan with ATT will be a lot more as I won't have several years worth of discounts I've gotten from Sprint.

[Neal @ May 14th 2007 7:23PM]

6800? Mogul? October?

In Canada we call this the P4000 and there's one on my hip as I speak.

[ckeegan @ May 31st 2007 1:06PM]

Now the site requires username and password, anyone have it? Over at HOFO, someone who claims to work for Radio Shack said that they started receiving in-store displays for the HTC Mogul earlier this week. Still waiting for photographic evidence.

[bell boy @ Jun 3rd 2007 3:41PM]

Mid June is when it will come out, and it will be WM 5. Put in stone by our corporate Sprint account manager.

[bill m @ Jun 27th 2007 1:37PM]

Bell Boy,

I dont know who your account rep is but they need to be fired, the phone comes with WM 6, get your facts strait... I know this for a fact because I have one.

Boe,

I don't know what your smoking but 6800 is a hell of alot fast and works so much better than the 6700. I know this for a fact because I have destroyed 7 or 8 6700s for being to slow and doing stupid retarted crap.


Incase anyone else is wondering this is a BIG improvement compared to the 6700 however BT still sucks...