Unreal Tournament 3 for PS3 to bring keyboard and mouse support
By Paul Miller 
posted Aug 4th 2007 10:25PM
posted Aug 4th 2007 10:25PM
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Precision aiming and dedicated buttons for each weapon as well as movements. I prefer my keyboard and mouse combination to the limited span of a console controller.
Personally, I'm would hope that Epic works out a way in which Win/Mac players can square off against both PS3 and 360 players for a true test of skill.
you cant have an even fight there, mouse movements are completely different than some sticks, i love both my pc and my ps3 but dont make me choose! both systems are great for FPS but a mouse and keyboard along with overclocked hardware will never be a fair fight with any console not just a ps3
Sorry, but you're never gonna have PS3 to 360 online play.
360 uses their own online system ($$$), while PS3 uses their own free system.
360 players are gonna be playing on MS Live servers while PS3 players will be playing on Sony servers.
Neither company would allow it.
Nice!!!
Now bring Starcraft 2 to PS3!!! (Yes, I'm Korean)
Get a better job
bump
(zomg sc2 ftw)
I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet...
THIS WILL DESTROY UT3!! Mouse and keyboard is a LOT MORE accurate than the PS3 controller so everyone without a mouse/keyboard will lose all the time. The online game will just be a bunch of people who bought the mouse-keyboard and a few stupid people without it getting owned.
Also, everyone can STFU about how much "better" mouse-keyboard is. Like the one guy said earlier: "I can consistently get headshots with mouse and I can't with the controller" [paraphrase].
EXACTLY!! You know why that is? BECAUSE ANY NOOB CAN USE A MOUSE AND IT TAKES SKILL AND TIME TO BE AN EXPERT WITH THE CONTROLLER.
Mouse is more accurate, but it's not better. Getting headshots and becoming dominant with the controller takes a long time. Any noob can just jump in a console shooter with a mouse/keyboard and start owning immediately. Also, it will change the more tactical-oriented style of console shooters and it will turn them into twitchfests where the person who doesn't poke their shoulder out and knows all the glitches wins.
Stupid. Play PC FPSs if you want mouse-keyboard. Keep that trash away from my PS3 and 360.
I hate people who complain about contollers. Of course you can shoot someone easier if you just place the mouse over them and click, but where is the skill, the fact you can see where to put the cursor.
I am totally with James on this.
I hate people who complain about contollers. Of course you can shoot someone easier if you just place the mouse over them and click, but where is the skill, the fact you can see where to put the cursor.
I am totally with James on this.
...just spend the 600 to upgrade your comp and buy the game for the PC if you're so set on using mouse and keyboard.
"upgrading" mine would involve replacing EVERYTHING except the drives and PCI cards, which would total for well above that 600 that will last me a minimum of 5 years...
...or maybe I already have PS3 and don't want to spend another $600 to upgrade my computer every year.
To play UT3 for me would mean spending at least $300 to play the game decently. That would be for the video card alone, not the motherboard, memory, and new processor. I would have to spend two times the cost of a PS3 to actually be able to play UT3 with the same graphical fidelity and quality as the PS3-- all bells and whistles at a resolution of at least 1280x1024, or if have the monitor, 1920x1200. So, $600 will not get me a PC able to play this game decently.
the 600$ budget worked for my PC =]
Love my 8800 =] from what I've seen in the past decade consoles have been turning into low cost PCs, providing some level of expandability (storage/communications/wireless guitar =D) while still maintaining software compatibility... This has happened before (look back into the history of the microprocessor)...the first PC was born this way =].
I bet that a decade(being conservative) from now you'll be able to run the SAME code, install the same OS (probably virtualization will take place) on your PlayStation "5" and on your XBox( 8Pi ) and on your generic home made Pc =]
I think this might be the innovation that will make me buy a PS3. I am sure more games will support mouse/keyboard controls. I can play FPS OK with a gamepad but I can get consistent headshots with a mouse on a PC and feel like I have a much greater level of control with 101 keys and a mouse. Go PS3!
Same here. I've never gotten the hang of a controller. Now I can effectively play FPS on the console without being railgun bait. Throw in a blu-ray player and teh remote possibility that this virtual community thing will amount to anything, and I now possibly have a reason to maybe buy a PS3. Maybe
Nice since my YDL V.5 just had a heart attack now I can use the keyboard and mouse again.
Wow Engadget. Read up other news sites every once and awhile. This was confirmed on PSU[.com] over 2 months ago.
STFU! I dont read that!
Thanks engadget!
And if Engadget did get this story from somewhere else, you'd be here bitching about how Engadget steals all its news from other sites.
now this is something that makes the PS3 worth it. this and Lair lol. I just hope that this opens it up for cross-playform PS3/PC and i hope that the 360 version gets keyboard/mouse support as well.
even through the control scheme and the controller is made better for FPS games. NOTHING beats a keyboard and mouse for an FPS. the control is 100 times better. and as for me. i'll be getting UT3 for my PC. but if it comes out for the 360. with keyboard/mouse support and cross-platform via LIVE that would make me happy. nice UT3 partys with me on my PC and everyone else on the 360.
It will be better if PS3, 360, and PC all come together and beat the crap outta each other. Maybe one day Wii will join the party!
I haven't even upgraded myself to the PS3 but this gives me something to think about. I want one bad, it is just dishing out that much money for a console that i am worried about. My husband would probably kill me. I guess that I will have to wait until X-Mas and buy it for the kids(I always tell my husband that it is for them and then I use it). I really enjoyed your site.
Gaje Master
The only thing you have to tell someone when they say that console controllers are better than a mouse for shooters is this:
All the top professional PC gamers use mice and keyboards. There have been gamepads for PCs for years, even dual analogs for years. Heck, you can use an Xbox 360 controller to control any FPS on a PC. Does fatality use one? Anyone other pro PC gamer use one? Didn't think so. If they were better they would all use gamepads on their PCs. lol
Fatal1ty? That camper?!?! LOL.
No one ever said that a controller/gamepad was better than a mouse and keyboard. They just said it takes more skill to use a controller than a mouse and keyboard.
I know this will piss off the PC gamers, but I say that the Wiimote has the potential to be better than the mouse-keyboard combo...it just feels comfortable and better overall. Turning has to be made a bit quicker and that's it. You can't just sit on a couch and play with a mouse and keyboard.
(Don't think of me as a Wii fanboy or anything, just telling an opinion).
Yes, I am excited about it's potential. So far we don't have a good example though. Bring on Metroid Prime 3. I hope it works well, I want to be playing FPS games on my Wii. I don't see it being better than a mouse, it has the potential to be as good as one, but we don't know if that potential can be realized yet.
>but I say that the Wiimote has the potential to be better than the mouse-keyboard combo...it just feels comfortable and better overall.
in what game does it give you the feel that Wiimote will EVER be better than mouse-keyboard? Could it possibly be Red Steel? or Far-cry?
or have you been drinking Nintendo's kool-aid when they CLAIMED that Metriod 4 is better than Mouse-keyboard?
saying you aren't a fanboy, but giving so called 'opinion' without backing it up can only be 2 things. fanboyism or you are getting paid to lie through your teeth.
Wow, calm down. It was just his opinion. I didn't know we had to have facts to back our opinions, but I will say that I did like RE4 Wii Edition's control scheme (except for the fact that there was no strafing). And yes, I know it's not a FPS, but the scheme could work theoretically. So far, I will concede that Wii FPS controls have been subpar but ya never know... maybe MP3:Corruption will finally justify the Wiimote and Nunchuck as a decent FPS controller. And no, I'm not a fanboy.
I thought COD 3 was pretty good...if only turning was a tad faster. As for Red Steel, the enormous bounding box was the main problem (and buggy pointer), though you get used to the game after a while.
And thanks for jumping up on me with the whole "you must be paid" attack.
The Wii has the potential to be better than the mouse/keyboard, it combines the precise pointing offered by the mouse with the precise movement of the analog stick. It's just that no game released as of now has pulled off the control scheme, but when one does, most FPS' after will probably follow that example.
Unfortunately I'm going to have to agree (without the senseless bashing, however). So far the Wii's FPS controls have actually been more convoluted than a standard controller. I think that Corruption may do better, but I have a feeling I may just end up using the "classic" controller. I'd pay good money to play Corruption with a mouse and keyboard.
i gotta admit. playing half life 2 with a wiimote was fun as hell lol.
Might as well use the PS3 as my PC. Mac OS or Windoze?
Linux, freely available for ps3
Literally dozens of PS3 owners wait with baited breath.
Wow... No PS3 bashing...
I hope it continues this way!
PS3 SUCKS!!! LOL. Just kidding. Metal Gear 4 FTW!!!!
This is great news for PS3 owners, i have a friend who just sprung the 500 for the counsel and is having difficulties getting used to using a controller again for resistance ( he is addicted to CoD on the PC ) and after playing a PS3 shooter, i pretty much feel the pains of relearning how to play a counsel FPS, where as mouse/keyboard combos generally allow the user to reprogram the game to fit the player's style, something i have found great over the past few years (nothing beats setting everything to that classic CS control scheme)
I only wish i had that cash to afford a PS3 - but at the point i am at, a 6800GTS is still cheaper than a PS3, and will allow me to hook up my computer to any HDTV that i please as well as my monitor.
just my .02
Whats next? A PS3 Printer? Ive played FPS on PC, N64, PS2 and now on a Wii. Wii has the best FPS experiance!
You can already print pictures from the PS3 with a USB connected printer.
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/index_printersettings.html
Yeah, since System 1.8, we could use printers. List:
http://www.us.playstation.com/Content/PS3NetworkPlatform/Updates/printer.html
Well i'll be damned. Not bad.
Unleash the SIXAXIS !!!!
Im totally sold if they allow me customize my sixaxis control.
Just incline the sixaxis to the left or rigth and you are dodging to that direction.
Just incline the sixaxis to the front and you jump.
Just incline the sixaxix to the back and you reload.
And many more shortcuts custom for change weapon, enter/exit vehicule, adrenaline combos (if they exist in UT3), orders, etc.
When have you ever had to reload in a UT game?
lol
now that you mention it and i remember playing it (i have not played in years) i feel so stupid.
play to much killzone that i forget... thank you for remind me.
something similar happend to me when blizzard anounce starcraft 2, i dont remember some units until i see them in the videoingame, lol
and as with starcraft, im already installing UT as i type, so i can have a good games and dont forget, at least for some months, lol
i loved the gothic map from the original UT so much, that will be the first to replay.
"Unleash the SIXAXIS !!!!
Im totally sold if they allow me customize my sixaxis control.
Just incline the sixaxis to the left or rigth and you are dodging to that direction.
Just incline the sixaxis to the front and you jump.
Just incline the sixaxix to the back and you reload."
yes and try doing this in the middle of gameplay and having your character jump instead of dodging left...etc.
What "coding" do you have to do to get Ubuntu to run?
Pressing "Next" several times on the installer? I didn't know that was coding...
Laz
"yes and try doing this in the middle of gameplay and having your character jump instead of dodging left...etc."
you make no sense...
why my character will jump instead of dodging left ???
its like complaining that my character jump instead of fire the weapon when press X (the button for jump)
thats why some call it control... because you control it, it dont control you, if the character do something diferent, is because you press the wrong button or use the control wrong, dont blame the interface, blame the user.
Unless you are one of those who like swinging and jumping, incline your self left and rigth, and moving the control all over the room (regular control not the wii) then i understand why you dont see the potential, and only see problems.
Im one of those who dont exercise so much when play games, i dont like move my keyboard and mouse like crazy when surfing and playing games in the pc either.
I love how opera made the browsing so simple, fast and easy with mouse gestures, im looking for something similar in the ps3. (and not, i never closed one window by mistake with mouse gestures, im in the control of the mouse, not the mouse has control of me)
PS3??
What's that?
I've only heard of the Wii!
I know Linux is available, but seriously, even Ubuntu requires a fair amount of coding in order to get it working flawlessly on a machine (especially those with ATI graphics cards).
Feel free to correct me if there is a version of Linux that you'd like to recommend.
So where exactly do I put the mouse and keyboard on my couch? I'd wager the vast majority of PS3's are out in a living/family room. Hunched over to the coffee table or on a lap doesn't exactly scream ergonomics.
you got a good point there. but at least this gives people the option. and i'm sure if someone wanted to use the KB/M that bad they would work something out. table, laptop table something like that.
in the air, that's how
http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/12/logitechs-mx-air-mouse-a-witches-brew-of-lasers-mems-and-rf/
Too bad the PS3 hypervisor severely limits the potential of any alternative operating system on the PS3.
very interesting, game developers see money they could save and get to reach it FPS games usergroup that also has a PS3 or planning to get one when the price is more decent.
UT, Quakewars are developed by true hard core FPS developers and they know consoles brings them more money for drugs than only keep releasing and developing their games primary for hard core PC gamers.
Specially single player FPS games since more PC users know how get and install warez while console users are usually noobs and like to nag to parents to buy crappy games they finish in a day and thats why the got a console in the first place. since noobs dont know how to unpack and burn without a manual lulz.
The issue has been that developers had to dumb down PC FPS games control,content and even A.I when they port it from PC to console and the other way just turns out so crappy no one bothers.
Anyhow i like the option, and i hope others follow.
If u want to put your PS3 on a desk to a new nice HD LCD and play decent FPS games with decent controls. done.
If you want to play the same game with a gamepad on you sofa against keyb/mouse users GL prepare to be raped with knife from behind. i bet u change to a gamedisc developed for gamepad within minutes after insane humiliation
I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet...
THIS WILL DESTROY UT3!! Mouse and keyboard is a LOT MORE accurate than the PS3 controller so everyone without a mouse/keyboard will lose all the time. The online game will just be a bunch of people who bought the mouse-keyboard and a few stupid people without it getting owned.
Also, everyone can STFU about how much "better" mouse-keyboard is. Like the one guy said earlier: "I can consistently get headshots with mouse and I can't with the controller" [paraphrase].
EXACTLY!! You know why that is? BECAUSE ANY NOOB CAN USE A MOUSE AND IT TAKES SKILL AND TIME TO BE AN EXPERT WITH THE CONTROLLER.
Mouse is more accurate, but it's not better. Getting headshots and becoming dominant with the controller takes a long time. Any noob can just jump in a console shooter with a mouse/keyboard and start owning immediately. Also, it will change the more tactical-oriented style of console shooters and it will turn them into twitchfests where the person who doesn't poke their shoulder out and knows all the glitches wins.
Stupid. Play PC FPSs if you want mouse-keyboard. Keep that trash away from my PS3 and 360.
more accurate not better ?
hmmm so FPS amish style whiping your back with a controller must be better for you ?
Gosh did not know.
what is your point thats like telling NBA baskeball players to play without shoes and play on a carpet instead.
it´s not more fun or optimal, its just harder because that how god would like it right ?
noobs dont even know how to take advantage in settings of good mouse sensitivity imagine a gamepader against a pro 1600 dpi.
thats like letting Shaq slamdunk a basketball on to the face of a 10 year old.
like the article said, unfair advantage.
Hey donut, read the article, there is a filter to play only joypad gamers, only keyboard/mouse gamers or both.
I will be surprised to see PC to PS3 play considering the announcement at E3 that the U3 Engine will have Windows Live integrated into it for multiplayer gaming.
http://www.developmag.com/news/28053/E3-2007-Unreal-Engine-3-gets-Games-for-Windows-Live-integration
it will have windows live built in but currently there arn't any plans to enable it in the two current games. being UT3 and Gears of War. though i would assume gears of war would be a GFW game but obviously w/o live.
Keyboard and mouse is the only way to play first person shooters. Most console FPS's are going the direction of trying to be more realistic and strategic. Controllers work fine for that type of game. On the other hand, UT3 is trying to be true to it's roots and maintain the wicked fast eye bleeding game play. Anything other than a K/M just won't maintain that sense of game play. For those that really enjoy being limited to a controller, my guess is that it wouldn't be too hard for them to make controller restricted versions of their servers.
I have both a top end pc and a ps3 and although i do find control alot simpler for FPS games on the PC with a keyboard and mouse, I like the difference from using a dual stick controller. I could easily plug a keyboard and mouse into my PS3 and perform much better than controller using players (the turning limitation factor is a big one), but I like playing in both styles.
I don't think this is intended to settle the war between the keyboard/mouse combo and the console controller, but it gives people who don't have a high end gaming PC the option to play the game as if they did, and experience the greater fidelity in control.
I don't really understand why this is big news; Unreal Tournament on the PS2 had full keyboard and mouse support.
Praise Jeebus! Console controllers are horrible for FPS and even worse because the cause severe thumb injuries. The thumb is not an accurate instrument.
Anyone who whines about how KB/Mouse is for noobs, go stick your heads back up your a**. There are professional PC gaming competitions, with players of varying skill levels, NONE of whom are dumb enough to use a bloody gamepad. Thumb sticks to the dumpster!