Sony thumbs nose at Samsung, confirms OLED TVs by December
By Thomas Ricker 
posted Sep 12th 2007 8:07AM
posted Sep 12th 2007 8:07AM
Read -- Sony confirmation at Gitex
Read -- Sony confirmation in Japan (footnote, near end)
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It's out now. $2499 at select Sony Style retail stores. However, now Sony has said that they do not see a rapid growth in OLED TV production. Well, they're still first.
http://www.all-oled-tv-reviews.com
real nice....
The screen's thin, but unless the stand/electronics can be reduced the overall size reduction is not so impressive.
Image quality is of more interest.
The screen may be wafer thin but look at the base unit. Can hardly hang it flush on your wall.
yeah, sure that tv was designed for wallmountability! doh. somedays i just wonder!!!
Funny given that both the posts before and after mine had the exact same thoughts as me. My point is it's only that thin because all the electronics are in the base unit. A more realistic image would be a model with the electronics behind the screen as is standard on most flat panels.
I can't say I think putting a TV against the wall is ideal, looks futuristic and is done often with displays now sure, but is it so great?
Besides at 11" it would be silly against the wall, you'd have to walk to the wall and stand near it to watch TV.
Holy freak that's thin, I mean I've heard that its thin, but when actually viewing an image, it's unbelievable. No wonder they didn't bother with the 30 incher though, just imagine how easily it would break - or seem like it would?
I don't know how easily it suppose to break if you only handle the monitor once... The day you set it up on your desk and then your DONE!
I'll take mine in 30 inches please!
It doesn't HAVE to be thin, plus a plate of metal and some lexan should make it bulletproof.
Sony might be first but who still deals with sony? nobody with any selfrespect I'd say, so the wait is for samsung then.
What's the resolution of this 11" model anyway? the old link said 1080p but 11" is a bit too small for that I think.
HAHA, low ranked, sony fanbois are the new apple fanbois? "Oh please mr hakamucho stick it in my dark place, again"
Then spread exploding batteries, products that fall apart, rootkit in the millions, attack your network and DRM everything and lock everything to propriety formats that cost 3 times as much, oh and kill animals for show, and it's still not enough to make you get a clue then eh.
We downvoted you because you're an idiot.
Oh and I forgot to mention the 30% markup for Europeans.
I'm pretty sure that the low ranking isn't because everyone here is a fanboy, rather because you are trolling like Jay. There was no reason to attack Sony in this thread but you felt the need to go at them anyway. However, rather than just attacking the company, you felt the need to also attack any of their customers.
"Oh and I forgot to mention the 30% markup for Europeans."
You only have your socialist politicians to thank for that.
fuck you
Well yes I did say people that continue being sony customers, after all that sony did to show what they are about, have no self-respect, and yes to those people who fit that description and plan to continue supporting sony that might be felt as an insult, but that's up to them, to deal with their choices and yes you might get all sensitive about it and then I become a troll to their world, but the only solution to prevent that is for people to say absolutely nothing that might not be in line with the majority, even if it's true.
And that's not something I can do at all times.
@Jebus - When you grow a brain and some knowledge maybe then your comments will have any validity.
Well since the euro is worth 1.39 times a dollar now (highest compared to the dollar ever, good going on your economy America, the socialist must be in awe) even if you compensate for the different taxes and such the Japs STILL overcharge here plenty most often.
I'll have you know I work for a company that does their compensation in socialist fashion. I'll tell you what, being that I am as motivated as I am and seeing the lack of motivation in others that socialism is NOT the way to go. It punishes the good workers who are motivated and rewards the bad workers who are fat and lazy. I can guarantee that I'll work almost anybody's ass under the table. The reason the American economy has started to slow is because we are the only country with enough balls to fight a war against terrorism. I don't agree with being in Iraq, but I don't agree with pulling out before we're done either so, yeah, the dollar is going to slip from that.
About the TV: I actually agree with you on people buying Sony products. I think they should demand more id they are going to pay more, but it's their money so if they want a product that has the same features as a product that costs a fair amount less then that is their decision. I can buy something else with the money I saved by not buying a Sony. It's just like Bose or Gibson guitars: You're just paying for the name, not a better product.
hmm, ok, but I think you don't quite get socialism, but never mind that mr Cheney.
I think the stand is ONLY there to widen the centre of gravity, without it, it will tip over if it moves 1.5 mm to the side. so what? a vibration from walking on the carpet?
I hope you can remove that if you decide to place it on the wall, (keyword is HOPE)
I thought OLEDs were supposed to be taking over phone and handheld displays by now. If they can make an 11" one, why not a 3.5" one? There must be other drawbacks (cost? reliability? what?)
Well the drawback of OLED screens is that the lifetime of each screen is far less than normal LCDs. Only around 5000 hours, which really limits who'd really want to buy it. But who know's how the tech's developed since those facts were published.
http://petermoulding.com/technology/hardware/oled
Well the drawback of OLED screens is that the lifetime of each screen is far less than normal LCDs. Only around 5000 hours, which really limits who'd really want to buy it. But who know's how the tech's developed since those facts were published.
http://petermoulding.com/technology/hardware/oled
5000 hours = 208 days
WTF are U talking about?
Who the hell would sell a TV that only lasts 208 days? Maybe Microsoft would, just talk to any RROD victim.
When will the Flat-Screen Manufacturers' cartel remove the bezel and let us have really large screens at a reasonable price ?
Why don't the US or EU monopoly bodies force them to ?
At 11 inches I would think this would be destined for a Viao instead of a Bravia, and it would make one heck of a tablet notebook. The size might also be good as some kind of PMP, but Sony hasnt had much luck in that department. Maybe they can talk with Archos and we can get an 1105 out the door by December?
It has too be said, I would willingly make love to that screen!
It has too be said, I would willingly make love to that screen!
It has too be said, I would willingly make love to that screen!
did it have to be said twice?
The site's script keeps locking when you click post, making it seem it's stuck and then when you hit post again it's posted twice.
That thing is SCREAMING to go into one of those under the kitchen cabinets flip down DVD combo thingys.
I'd buy one of those in a heartbeat. The problem with the existing ones is that the LCD's suck and they're tiny. This REALLY fixes both of those issues.
That thing is SCREAMING to go into one of those under the kitchen cabinets flip down DVD combo thingys.
I'd buy one of those in a heartbeat. The problem with the existing ones is that the LCD's suck and they're tiny. This REALLY fixes both of those issues.
Too keep it thin and small, I hope these CE are smart and design the inputs in such a way that there is a external box for them with just one small cable connecting it.
Thinking about it now, I wish they did it now. That way we could have our inputs stored away in a cabinet or making it so we don't have to crawl behind a TV.
This better be either frackin' good, frackin' cheap or frackin' enormous...
Tell me one good reason why anyone would buy this SVGA display over a full HD LCD that will probably be cheaper, brighter, frackin' bigger still (think 103")
Damn Sony, their stocks are tanking all time, with dumpster product like PS3 and Rolly whatever... Come on! Gives us another walking man revolution!
Well OLED's have a much higher dynamic range as stated, and they have a wide viewing angle from all sides, and they have a wider colorrange than LCD can achieve, and this is only the fist step, so there's plenty of reason to like OLED over stop-gap technology like LCD always was.
If only we knew the lifetime of OLED displays though.
This better be either frackin' good, frackin' cheap or frackin' enormous...
Tell me one good reason why anyone would buy this SVGA display over a full HD LCD that will probably be cheaper, brighter, frackin' bigger still (think 103")
Damn Sony, their stocks are tanking all time, with dumpster product like PS3 and Rolly whatever... Come on! Gives us another walking man revolution!
Go Sony! Go Sony! Being ballzy and bringing new technology onto the market!
1,000,000:1 CONTRAST.
That is all you have to say. That's better than any existing technology, including CRT.
If Sony has OLED mastered, then SONY will rule TV's again, like they did in the Trinitron days.
Oh wait, I see it now, OLED=Trinitron2. Nice.
$ony Sucks!
I'd buy a Sammy anyday!
Are you a samsung fanboy? I don't buy their product because it's a Korean company.
I don't buy their products cause I had a samsumg cell phone that locked up on me constantly, and for no reason whatsoever.
I'm not a Samsung fanboy. Granted Samsung does make crappy products which have poor quality control but that's mostly for lower priced stuff.
$ony has very poor quality control! It's not the $ony of old whose products would last for 5 years+.
Even $ony's highend products crap out quickly & they are always over-hyped & over-priced.
So I'm a $ony hater & not a Samsung fanboy. Above All I want is the best bang for my buck so if $ony comes out with a good product with a good price vs. the competition I would buy it.
Thank You.
it looks like it is so breakable
it looks so breakable
do i have to say it again
I'm more impressed at the picture quality from that angle.
it would be awesome for sony to incorporate these screens in next years laptops without putting the prices up to new rediculous heights.
do i have to say it again
yes. Please tell us again applefreak
Imagine a laptop with a display this thin (and a nice strong back for it of course)!
Thats the only photo they got..put a better picture
hahaha! f*ck samsung!
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Indeed. I'm pretty sure that Koreans are crying.
This is great news!
Frak is a four letter word!
Samsung isnt crying. They are #1 in OLED above Sony in market share.
I buy Samsung products because its a Korean company.
Um, nobody is out to market yet with an OLED display of anything close to this size. Samsung has shown a 27" concept TV, but it's nowhere near this sexy, and MUCH farther from entering production.
Sony is also leading the industry in flexible full-color screens, though those are even further from production.
If only Sony would only drop the PS3, kill the entire SCEI/SCEA organization, and focus on A/V electronics again, they would totally OWN Samsung for the forseeable future.
No, I'm not Korean. 100% American Bronx boy.
Then why base your product choice solely on it being korean?
check out oled on wikipedia.
only 5000 hour lifespan... not too practical.
Does anyone know if there's an HDMI port? I know, i know "how can a 1080p OLED with a million-to-one contrast ratio NOT have hdmi ports?", but you couldn't trust any major corporation with a baby, not even those hermit crabs you buy down the shore that live for a year or two. So adding an HDMI port to a crazy-contrast "monitor" would seem common sense, right? not really Case-in-point: http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/12/hitachi-unveils-103-inch-1080p-plasma-display-of-its-own/
That thing is skinnier than Nicole Richie.
The internet is frought with idiots. OLEDs are newer technology; an OLED TV of any size will be an advancement. Who cares that it's 11 inches. Laptop monitors are about that size.
"OF what use is a new born baby?"
I've seen prototypes of the OLED panels and boy are they cool. If money is no object, they definately make a strong "first on the block" kind of statement. Stay tuned for future news about OLED beyond Japan at sony.com/news or our new company blog at www.sony.com/electronicsblog.
I wouldn't let my 3 year old near it! Does it really have to be this thin or is it just for effect? Darn nice picture though.
http://www.oled-tv-buzz.com