Palm's unnamed device: the Treo 755p for Verizon?
By Chris Ziegler 
posted December 10th 2007 11:57AM
posted December 10th 2007 11:57AM
Speculation is growing that the device Palm recently blamed for its revenue shortfall is none other than the yawn-worthy Treo 755p, a phone that launched on Sprint eons ago and, despite being rumored in Verizon trim eons ago as well, has apparently had all sorts of trouble getting through Big Red's testing process. While it's hard to deny that it's a pretty unspectacular handset at this point, we can also imagine that failing to launch it on the country's largest CDMA network would account for a significant drop in cash flow -- the Palm OS / Garnet faithful are still plentiful, after all, and there's no Centro in sight for Verizon at the moment. So, tell us: is anyone out there really drooling for this thing right now?
Palm? They are still in business?
I was.....until the Pearl came out. Way to go, Palm.
It would not matter anyway. By the time phones are done with Verizon's "approval" process they are so crippled as to be not worth the money anyway.
Newsflash, VZW doesn't cripple Palms.
Doesn't matter though, this thing is still is an antique. I will happily keep my BBerry 8830.
VZW sure as heck does cripple their Palm devices. I've got the hacked
Bluetooth on my VZW Treo 650 to prove it: Dial-Up-Networking comes disabled out of the box.
Well Derek you're right, the 650 was crippled, but DUN on the 700p is not.
Yes.
My wife had been eyeing a Palm since she knew the software & was comfortable with it being using friendly & having numerous aps available, however, in the end she went w/ the Curve. Blackberry's pretty much taken the "don't want WMo but still want email/PDA functions on a phone"-crowd.
Loved you, Palm. Really. I have the box of Clies & original Palms to prove it. Somewhere. In fact, I just threw a flip cover for one of the Clies away this morning as I found it in my desk.
thanks engadget, i wrote that on your first article about palm short one device...thanks!
Too little, too late.
A 700p minus the antenna... whoo hoo... I bet it will be the best option when my Verizon contract expires in July 2008.
Or the Samsung i760...
or the Motorola Q9m...
or the HTC xv6800...
or the xv5800...
Yep... the treo 755p isn't even the best device in their CURRENT lineup.
It is the best device on Verizon if you don't want a device with Windows Mobile 6...
This is like waiting for Apple to put out a sequel to the Apple IIGS, the Amiga to get revived, Gravis Ultra Sound card to be revived, *BSD to become popular and mainstream, Sony to continue the CLIE PDA series, Palm to put out a new PDA, or bunches of hardware makers pick up Cobalt instead of WM, etc...
The writing is on the wall! While you're waiting, years of lost productivity pass by.
Carpe Diem! Dump Palm before you're dragged under with them with no where to go.
Not even Sam... I forgot to mention VZW has 2 very capable great RIM products in the 8830 and the 8130 Pearl.
The Blackberries are hardly alternatives. There are not the same 3rd party applications as there are for Palm OS. For example, from time to time, I'll watch NFL games on my Treo via the Slingbox. I'll admit, I've started to look into a Blackberry, but only if it has a full QWERTY. But none have captured my attention enough to draw me away from Palm OS.
My wife has a VZW Treo 650 that's about to die .. she's been anxiously waiting for a 755P so she can keep her existing apps that she loves. It's possible she's the only person waiting, I guess.
Oops, it's not easy to write comments using sarcasm. I am not excited about this 'new' outdated Palm device. When my 'New Every 2' comes around I will replace my Q with another Window Mobile device, maybe a xv5800.
Nah, it's quite easy. It's not easy to get sarcasm across to elgee when it's about VZW and he's on the board promoting his company.
Look, if I don't want a 42" flat screen LCD TV it isn't going to matter what Samsung or Sharp or RCA put out. I'm not in that consumer group.
If you aren't looking for a Palm OS-based smartphone and don't care whether you're on Verizon or not, don't be a troll and let it go already. Yeah, there are lots of 'pretty phones' out there that do all kinds of stuff.
Yawn.
I am tired of carrying a Palm around and a phone around and the 755P is the first marriage of both that works for me. Yeah, I'll be there when Verizon offers it (and I don't need nor want an iphone, nor Crackberry, nor Juke, nor anything else), and I'll never use Windows Mobile. Oh, and my eyes are too old for a Centro --- that's a kids' phone.
So realize that the 755p is what it is, and if you aren't interested, move along there, Johnny.
Harold
Exactly, right on, thank you.
As a long time Palm user, a very anger 700p owner and the leaker of the Centro (then Gandolf) I can tell you that the 755p is the best Treo Palm has released to date. As a owner of the Centro as well, I can also tell you that most Engadget readers and gadget fans won't be too impressed. I just used it solely for a week and posted my review. http://morningpaper.typepad.com/morning_paper/2007/12/my-week-with-th.html
Verizon customers, if you can't wait for the Centro and Verizon does in fact release the 755p, unless Verizon completely destroys it, you won't be upset. I myself will be moving on from Palm at some point next year, but will continue to support them. That is unless they say something else as dumb as "we don't feel the need to join the OHA".
I was waiting for this on VZW back when it came out on Sprint in May. It was already yawn-worthy then, but compared to my Treo 650 it was a big improvement. Eventually I had to replace my Treo and the 755p failed testing, so I went for the 700p, much to my dismay, as despite its age they never got that firmware right. Buggy as hell. Then I decided if the 755p wasn't coming out, I'd switch to Windows and get the XV-6800, also already obsolete before its release. Then that failed testing. So I left Verizon. So yes, Palm and Verizon did lose revenue over it, and I doubt I'm the only one.
Why don't you just do all that for me and I'll give you a P.O. Box to ship it to, how's that sound?
:-)
I love to listen to the endless banter about how Palm is great and how it stinks and so on and so on.
However, why is there so much hate here for Palm devices? I mean, I am definitely a newbie to the smartphone world, having only carried a 700p with Verizon for 6 months, and now a 755p with Sprint for a few weeks, but I must say I am very impressed. Yes, Palm as a company is less than stellar. They make promises they don't keep, tend to sweep stuff under the rug, etc etc. Yes, my phone is not razor thin like an iPhone and it doesn't have some fancy interface like a HTC Touch, but you know what...it's a powerhouse. I can run my entire life from this thing, watch TV from my Slingbox, surf the web, and do countless other things for the $149 I paid for the 755p after rebates. And I didn't buy the phone because I "love" the company or their management style - I bought it because I liked it. That simple.
I don't want to say that I'm offended or hurt or anything like that, it's just that I think people can get a little annoying when all they do is bash Palm devices because they aren't the "cool" thing to have anymore, or because they are "yawnable." Forget the hype - it's all about what works for you.
Ok, that's my two cents. I don't mean to offend anyone - just reminding you that we Palm users are people too :-).
It's not a powerhouse Carmen. You are a newbie, so the Treo seems great. But for those of us that have owned Treo's for years, Palm's devices are letdowns. I purchased the Treo 600 back in 2004 and the Centro I have in my hand now is just slightly better. That is almost 4 years and Palm barely made an attempt in making a new Treo. Look at what BlackBerry has done in 4 years. BlackBerry, the most basic of PDA's, has made huge changes in both design and features. HTC, Nokia, Motorola, Samsung, they have all been working hard. Now Apple comes out with a PDA I personally don't like, but it does pack a giant punch. Palm had 4 years to add GB's of RAM, but they kept offering less then 100MB's. They had the chance to change the display, but kept it at 16 Bit's. They had the chance to add WiFi, but didn't even bother. This on top of the 50 million other features they could have added. The 50 million other hardware/software issues they could have corrected. For newbies Treo's must seem great. Just keep in mind, in 4 years little has changed. That is why Palm is dying.
I own the Centro. I upgraded after using different models. The Centro, like all Treo's is the same-old deal. So a 755 for Verizon's network wouldn't be something so brand new that it would shock the world. It would just be yet another Treo device with lackluster features and spec's. So no, if I was still using Verizon, I couldn't care less about a new Treo coming out. I won't even bother with Palm if their next phone has these same generic features.