Goldman Sachs says second-gen iPhone is in "final design phase," Apple TV to get LCD screen

We're not certain why anyone treats the inevitable arrival of a second-gen iPhone sometime next year as earth-shattering news, but Goldman Sachs released a note to clients yesterday saying that the rumored 3G version is in its "final design phase." The investment firm's David Bailey says he got the info from the usual assortment of moderately-reliable Asian component suppliers, and that he expects the new model to have "similar form factor" with a "different look." Rounding out his list of obvious predictions, Bailey also said the existing model will get a capacity bump sometime next year as well, which makes sense given the proliferation of 32GB flash devices we've seen pop up lately. Somewhat more interestingly, Bailey also said that Apple is planning on retooling the Apple TV next year, and that his sources the new version may pack an LCD screen. Sadly, Bailey didn't have much to say about that rumored subnotebook, only that he's heard of possible "design issues." That doesn't sound too promising -- but we're certain Steve will fill us in next month.

[(Unverified) Posted Dec 12th 2007 4:19PM]

If you consider continual streams of improved products "fucking over of all 1st gen" users, and everyone took that approach, then we'd still be in the dark ages...

[(Unverified) Posted Dec 12th 2007 9:31PM]

oh please save me that crap, no shit their obviously has to be new products but the thing is apple is one of those companies that gives nothing to its first gen adapters, a quick firmware update could easily fix the things well miss but will we get them? No. Which is why I love microsoft for zune30 users the same features as the 80

[Kizorblade Posted Dec 13th 2007 2:13AM]

Prove to me that they have done nothing to their first gen adopters.

1G iPod:
It can't do anything else can it? Look at photos on a black and white screen? No thanks
Watch really really choppy videos on a black and white screen? No thanks
The hardware is limiting it.

Powermac G5 - several years ago. 1st gen, runs Tiger, runs Leopard

[nyirock35 Posted Dec 12th 2007 4:35PM]

apple tv syncable with iphone and itouch? i think so. with wifi or on the 3g network somewhere in the near future you'll be able to watch tv right from your iphone or i touch...

[ayle Posted Dec 12th 2007 4:34PM]

I hope those new screens work with gloves... I'm tired of dying a little more every time I have to remove my gloves to use my phone...

[Kizorblade Posted Dec 13th 2007 2:18AM]

Unlikely- they're not force sensitive

[(Unverified) Posted Dec 12th 2007 5:37PM]

Just get a complete Operating System in there with some Security (Is there any Trojan apps around because of Jailbreak? If not, why not? An OS with NO security and plenty of net access should be heaven for hackers), and make the thing a PDA. The New Newton.

Oh, and GPS, 3G, available on ALL 3G networks, bigger battery, volume buttons, SD card slot.

[SeeonFeeon Posted Dec 12th 2007 7:11PM]

BTW, Apple's Apple TV is going to be that: an Apple TV Plasma Television (parts by Foxconn as it turns out).

According to an insider at the Asagaya Apple development facility (right off of Rt. 318, before Rt. 4) a group of Japanese hardware developers in conjunction with Foxconn are making the Apple TV in order to "reinvent the TV" unlike anything that we've ever experienced.

As it turns out, the Apple TV "project" by Steve was only that: a project to see what worked and what didn't and what people really wanted and what held them back from being able to do it.

Hence, the new Apple TV, a real TV. All-in-one, according to their folks, the Apple TV is supposed to have the current Apple TV device embedded in a sweet display that's supposed to be very thin, even by large LCD standards. Smallest version is a 32", largest 43" inches.

The kicker - the TV is fully wifi compatible. Why? Because its supposed to integrate lovely with the Apple suite of electronics and software. In the "One more thing" part, the LCD does something no other Mac can do:

An iSight camera is built-into the LCD. No little black dot, nada. The noise cancelation features on the TV are supposed to "wow" the crowd for the upcoming MacWorld demo.

You can also wirelessly "share" your screen with your TV to watch movies etc.

And apparently Apple IS keeping the whole new iMac black border look, with just an edge of silver, far less than the iMac as it were.

So bite into that juicy bit. It was obvious they were gonna do this but its really cool to actually have validation of it.

[Ordeith Posted Dec 12th 2007 9:15PM]

Ah, the Xbox 360

HD episodes...check
Store without a computer... check
rentals... check

oh, and it also works as a media center extender, will stream xvid/divx, and even play games.

all while costing less than the apple tv. :)

[(Unverified) Posted Dec 13th 2007 7:45AM]

i would not be excited by that.