Fujitsu's LifeBook P1620 is lighter than (MacBook) Air
By Thomas Ricker 
posted January 18th 2008 6:07AM
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that pen is for what? touchscreen? doubt it...otherwise this would be the perfect...A serious performer if it has the touchscreen...wich is so cheap this days...
Handwriting when it's in tablet mode I guess. You're not going to scribble stuff just using the tip of your finger, are you?
Erm....
I happen to be typing this from a Fujitsu P1620. And mind is 9 months old. Sure you have the model right?
Mine does have 1gb memory, all the similar specs above, but my chip is a Core Solo chip inside.
Nice to hear the SSD dropped in price though - I've been waiting for the 32gb to go sub $300. Maybe I should wait for the 64gb to hit $500...
Are you sure YOU have your model right, that's P1610 that you have there. (if it's not the older P1510)
Mark, You own a P1610, not a P1620 and the 32GB SSD option for the P1620 is for $399 and for that you are going from a 60GB to a 32 GB HDD capacity (but much better transfer speeds).
That being said, I think the P1620 is a great device. I use the P1610 myself and although I wish Fujitsu came out with a dual mode digitizer like the Lenovo X61 or better yet the N-Trig digitizer, I will say that for portability, the P1610 is an excellent compromise. Its weight and battery life (with the extended battery) are exceptional.
Ulp. You guys are right. I forgot the transition was from P1510 to P1610. I was going by the idea that the original in this series was the 1610, and I have the second gen, assuming it was the 1620. There's nothing on my case or what have you saying P1610 - all it says is Lifebook P Series on the bezel bottom. Before making my slightly smart ass comment, I should have lifted up the computer and seen the name plate on the bottom ;)
can you say "over priced" ?
Asus EEE has broken the mould and buried its remains in the field of sub note / ultraa portables.
Makes me smile that you have all these clearly intelligent guys with premium educations but yet fail to recognize the aroma of the bean.
It has a faster processor, more RAM, more drive storage, bigger screen, touch screen...
dsgamer: Did you see the blog post below this one...? About the EEE PC possibly getting a 9 inch touch screen...? If it does, there's no way it's going to be priced anywhere remotely near this $1750-$2700 convertible Fujitsu.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/18/eee-pc-with-9-inch-touchscreen-in-the-works/
What is the deal with everybody and their brother comparing everything under the sun to the MacBook Air lately?
The new PC Brand XXX just introduced a new desktop with a faster processor then the MacBook Air.
The smartphone YYY is smaller then the MacBook Air.
The Fujitsu P1620 which has a smaller screen, smaller keyboard, smaller battery, and lower specs is lighter then the MacBook Air.
I am not trying to defend the MacBook Air, but can't you just report on the dang product they are reporting on without comparing it to the MacBook Air? This is getting ridiculous.
My phone is lighter then the MacBook Air, but guess what. That doesn't mean a thing!
Yeah, they are expensive but the P1610 is brilliant and with the faster processor and extra RAM this looks even better. Although the keyboard can be a little cramped these tablets are incredibly light. I just throw mine in my bag and forget it's there.
The MacBook Air still has a larger screen and a faster processor, plus it exceeds the GreenPeace standards which makes a huge leap forward.
What I get sick of is everything being compared to a vaguely similar Apple product. The P1620 is in a totally different class to the MBA so why does everyone feel the need to compare them. Not everything is about Apple and Fujitsu's P-series lifebooks are a great example of a category where Apple doesn't offer competition.
Perhaps because jobsie compared the MBA to the TZ which is a totally different footprint? If he did it, then so can I!
Why do all my posts appear at the bottom of the thread when I hit reply?
Fujitsu's web site says it starts at $1749, not $1599. Goes up to $2224 with BT and a larger HD.
http://store.shopfujitsu.com/fpc/Ecommerce/buildseriesbean.do?series=P1620
$2,374 to match the memory and hard drive sizes of the Air. Of course it can never stretch out for those 4.4 inches of more screen space, faster processor, faster front side bus or faster memory either. Oh well. At least the Fujitsu's LCD can be carved out to make a really nice DIY HD projector! =)
ACTIVE or PASSIVE digitizer?
Digitzer: Resistive (Passive)
http://www.computers.us.fujitsu.com/www/products_notebooks.shtml?products/notebooks/tech_specs/p1620_ts
Boo. Not a digital sketchbook then.
Passive digitizer. Hard-Touch makes it very good for writing, less good for using your fingers. If you prefer active digitizers, this is the net best thing. Most passive digitizers are soft touch. The only other hard touch screen I'm aware of is for a UMPC, the Asus R2H.
If you write a lot, you'll appreciate it. If you don't; if you navigate around the screen with your finger a lot, you'll find it annoying for certain. You'll need to use your nail more often than your fingertip.
Yeah, if you're looking for a digital sketchbook, the P1620 definitively wouldn't be your thing.
What remains to see is the batter life on this thing. The 3.5 hour number was for the p1610.
Fujitsu's website does not mention batter life for this one, and I wonder if it will be less due to the faster and dual core CPU, and the redesigned screen.
And no full sized keyboard or trackpad? No thanks.
I really do love the Fujitsu line. Their slate Tablets are very nice. But, my gripe is that the damn power warts weigh nearly as much as the 2.5 lb. tablet, and take up considerable space. If there is one thing to learn from Apple, it is how to make a decent power supply with a removable cord.
Oh how I wish that the Air were a tablet…
I have the 1510d, a predecessor to this laptop. I'd buy the new one in a second -- if only my current one wasn't so well made that I have no way to rationalize the purchase.
With the 6-cell battery, I've had between 5 and 6 hours on an airplane.
Using the touchscreen has been a revelation -- the whole gestural way of working with your files becomes natural very quickly. And the way the screen folds back on the keyboard makes reading a pleasure.
It's my main computer. When I travel, it fits easily in my bag. And at home, I just plug in a larger, secondary screen and a full-size keyboard. I run plenty of programs simultaneously, and rarely if ever have a hiccup.
So it is almost the same price as an MBA, it's ugly as sin, tiny screen, tiny keyboard, slower processor. Only thing it does better is it's a little lighter and it has a 100gb hard drive as opposed to an 80gb hard drive. Wow, exciting. I'm sure some will tout the replaceable battery, but I bet it's life isn't 5 hours either.
ARGH I just bought a 1610
Turns out the MBA, while probably the thinnest laptop shipping today, it's not the thinnest ever.
See my blog post about it.
http://blog.amahi.org/2008/01/17/thinnest-laptop-ever-not-the-macbook-air/
I was involved with the production of that ever-so thin, believed to be thinnest laptop!
yay
I suddenly find myself no longer interested in the HTC Shift.