We'd been hearing that HP's slick UMPC 2133 was going
sport VIA processors, and now we've got some more info to back that up -- we just received what appears to be a full spec list for the upcoming machine, and it's VIA C7-Ms all around, with graphics courtesy of a VIA Chrome 9 chipset. According to our source, these will hit on April 7th, and it looks like those pricing whispers were pretty accurate as well: $600 will buy you a 1.2GHz C7-M, a 120GB drive, 1GB of RAM and Vista Home Basic, while $749 bumps you up to 1.6GHz and Vista Business and adds Bluetooth, another gig of RAM, and a bigger battery. There's also a mysterious $849 Vista Basic model listed as having "regional" availability (the others are listed as "Smart Buy") with Bluetooth and bigger battery, but we don't see why it's more expensive than the Vista Business version. Regardless, what really caught our eye was the $549 model that shares the same specs as the $600 unit, but looks to be running SuSE Enterprise -- another
rumor that's come true. That could be the one that HP expects to
sell like hotcakes -- after all, the goal is to have people buy these "
without a thought," and that's certainly not going to happen at $749. We'll see soon enough, we suppose. Full spec sheet after the break.
posted March 26th 2008 8:23PM
How is anyone confused with the dimensions?
those are the packing/ shipping numbers... How are people not seeing that.
Yeah its a UMPC that weighs 5.26 lbs. Also, when was the last time anyone saw a 5+" notebook (excluding toughbooks, which I believe are slimmer anyways).
Common people, it'd look like a shortened box of cereal.
http://www.borg.com/~superman/memor/t16.jpg
Damn that's heavy!! Are they using lead instead of plastics?
Maybe I missed a comment, but how is this HP 2133 better than the eeepc? Costs more, same size screen, bigger, heavier, just as slow, and guaranteed to be loaded with HP crapware. I might hold out for the montevina/penryn based machine at $800-1000 with a P9500 at 2.5 Ghz, 11" LED, Wimax, 11n, and HDMI out.
Better yet, when is Sony going to launch an 11" OLED based ultraportable? Combine that with montevina features and 25W P9500 and we're talking a machine worthy of $2k+. I'm predicting we're not more than 3 months away from the Mac Air/X300 killer that such a machine would be - it's gotta be irresistable for Sony to cap off their win over Toshiba with a win over Apple and Lenovo.
Did you hear the Sony VP complaining about the eeepc bringing the market downscale? OLED on a laptop would change that in a hurry.
Dammit. Why can't they ever get it right? They almost had it, but then they obviously changed their mind about making an awesome affordable umpc by using a via processor... it's like, they just gave up on life.
This is dead on arrival. HP should have went with the Intel Atom processor. It's cheaper and faster. The main issue here is that you can buy an intel atom laptop for less money with better specs (choose either eee pc 2nd gen, acer, msi, etc). The via chrome cannot handle aero, while the GMA 950 in Intel's reference design can. At $550, it's $150 too much for what you get. This computer is 2 years old before it's released.
So, major laptop vendors will not cannibalize their existing sales with a sub $400 laptop that will meet 98% of their customer's base expectations. Look for korea to fill the niche.
I'M SOLD
SEEMS LIKE A GREAT MACHINE!
Large HD DRive, good processor ( i guess) Bleutooth
All i wanted :D nice resolution
Only hope thats not so big lol:P
But i really think it is so UNREAL
that this will his the stores 7 april?
@Homeboy March 26th 10:09PM
> 1. Consumers hate change and learning Linux takes take, energy and effort.
It gets easier all the time. Soon it will suit the dumbest of user to use Linux. The brightest will use it today. Check out a distribution every now and then. One day it will work for you. I started using it in 1994.
> 2. Compatibility with software sitting on the shelves in Walmart.
Use Linux. You won't need to visit Walmart for software ever again.
> 3. Very few people have a close friend who's good with linux and can help when something needs resolving.
Join your local Linux Users Group. Far more friendly than any corporate, differently accented, phone helpline.
25 quid is 25 quid.
Microsoft -> deathwatch :)
Owen.
Too funny!
Linux is stupid. It's like "I have two hands, but let me tie one behind my back and live that way ... 'cause it's ever so much fun to be awkward".
Sorry. I put XP on my Eee, and lost nothing in performance, and have never once regretted dumping the OEM Linux. I spent 2 months futzing with it, and trying, and failing, to get things to work using WINE that worked perfectly in XP already. Good riddance!
Oh, and I already had an XP disc, so I didn't have to buy anything, plus my performance, start-up/shut-down were barely even affected. N-lited XP only took up about 700 MB, so even that was a non-issue!
Example: I have a Slingplayer on my Eee. Perhaps ONE DAY, there will be a proper Linux distribution of it...maybe...one day.
Sorry, Penguin. XP FTW.
I love the idea of a UMPC - having a small, super thin and light laptop to bring everywhere.
But in a unit around the size of what we see above, I want the following specs:
- 11.1" LED WXGA+ Glossy Screen (1440x900)
- Intel Atom 1.87 GHz (Maybe Centrino - but I don't know what the integrated graphics and wireless will be with the Atom Centrino - integrated graphics usually make me cringe. Hopefully, Intel got it right this time).
- Discrete Graphics? Although this sounds preferable, Centrino aside, I'm unsure of what would be best/realistic for a small system like this. Everything here considered, would there even be enough room to integrate one into such a small chassis? Would it be necessary with such a small screen? No high-end gaming or Photoshop going on here, so would it even be necessary? Probably not. The Atom Centrino would most likely give us all we'd need with a UMPC.
- WiFi a/b/g/n
- Bluetooth 2.1+EDR
- SiRFstar Prima GPS
- 2mp Swiveling AF Video Cam
- Integrated Stereo Mic
- Fingerprint Reader
- Backlit keyboard (and a bit of backlighting framing the touchpad and its buttons)
- 2GB DDR2 RAM
- 100GB HDD @ 7200rpm (1.8")
- Multicard Slot
- Express Card 54 Slot
- Three USB Slots
- 10/100/1000 NIC
- HDMI Out
- 3.5mm Headphone and Mic Jacks
- Windows XP Pro SP2/3 or Vista Business/Ultimate
- 6-Cell Li-Poly Battery
- Very thin Carbon Fiber Chassis
$600-$700 USD (without discrete graphics; and Vista Ultimate would increase price).
Now that would sell like hotcakes. But yeah, I know... good luck getting all that for that price. I want to see it, nonetheless.
Oh and uh, can we please get instant-on machines and multi-touch for PC touchpads?
Oh yeah, and one last thing...
- Just a nice clean install of the OS and nothing more, thanks. No trial software and other junk. Well, maybe Norton Internet Security (or something similar), and perhaps MS Office, but nothing else.
UMPC's specd close to what you're looking for are already available..... for $3000. You're not in the market for a budget UMPC for basic applications (what the HP is supposed to be), you want it all and you're going to have to pay more than six to seven hundred dollars for it.
Yes, you're right. Hence my own comment near the bottom of my initial post: "But yeah, I know... good luck getting all that for that price."
I'm a bit behind the curve on knowing the answer to this question - can you easily install Mac OSX on this (or any current gen notebook computer)? If so, this could be my "Macbook Air". It is about 75% of what I hoped the MBA would be before Steve announced it. The MBA itself is about 50% what I hoped the MBA would be ;)
Check this out:
$799.99
Comes with a DVD drive too!
13.3" screen
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10093690&catid=
$729.99
Comes with a DVD drive again!!
14.1" screen!
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10093629&catid=
Yeah, HP would have to seriously drop prices of the 2133 for it to be successful. I wouldn't buy it for that price.
Newguy:
Do you work for the futureshop or something?
Anyway, I do not understand your earlier comment about how Compaq sucks, but your next PC will DEFINITELY be an HP!?!?
HP=Compaq
Compaq=HP
Same company, same computers (for the past several years).
Compaq is/was (supposed to be) the budget line. With the exception of the case color they are basically the same computers. HPs seem to be slightly higher spec (more ram, larger HD, maybe a faster CPU) but they are essentially the same.
So as I said earlier...I don't understand your comment. If you had such a bad experience with Compaq (had to send it back several times) why would your next PC be an HP?
Uhrwerks
When i bought the Compaq laptops they were not part of HP.
Plus, like you said, Compaq's are the "budget" line. There product quality is not as great and the components they use are definitely not the best.
I have heard that since HP bought Compaq, things have gotten better, but i've been burnt twice, so i'm not about to take that chance again!
And no, i don't work for Futureshop, it just so happens that went to there website cause i knew they carried that Toshiba laptop i wanted to post about.
Hope that clarifies it.
I have been waiting for this HP 2133 but I am disappointed now: it was rumoured to have 766 X 1366 resolution and now it turns out to be only 1280x768. Does any one know what is the highest resolution you can get in a UMPC? I have good eyes, I don't mind if the text and graphics will be really small, I want to have as large screen estate as possible. I have used 1600x1200 on a 15" for years and I don't mind squeezing the fonts and graphics a lot more.
My requirements are: keyboard for touchtyping, ultrasmall dimensions, highest resolution possible. I don't care so much about the cpu, hdd, ports and interfaces. I don't mind buying extra batteries and taking 2 o 3 of them when hitting the road.
Any ideas?
HP can eat me, ever since my dv9500/dv9700 debacle.
FAIL!
I want one, or something similar so I can throw Ubuntu and Compiz on it. However the via graphics chipset currently don't support compiz. This is why the Eee is so successful, the intel chipset has official open source liunx drivers. Simply offering linux installed isn't enough unless you understand why people want it with linux on there.
whats up with vista? they should at least give the option for XP
5LBS!!!! tHATS NOT A UMPC. MY POWERBOOK 12 INCH weighs less
Cant wait to have it
I was thinking about this as a replacement for my 12" Powerbook G4... I wanted something as small or smaller, with a similarly sized keyboard. Right now I'm working from my beau's 15" MacBook Pro... I hate this monstrosity. It is awkward in every way I can imagine.
I miss my cuddly little chunk of metal... is that so wrong?
I don't need a lot of power or a massive hard drive, because realistically, all I do is work with text in one form or another. I've been waiting forever for HP to announce the final stats for the 2133, but now I'm thoroughly disappointed. I was hoping for something much closer to the Lifebook U810, with the EEE's keyboard.
Gross... Ryan just wandered by and suggested he would buy me the MBA.... you couldn't PAY me to cart that hideous thing around.... Although, I'm probably the only person on the planet with such a piss poor opinion of Apple's new shiny.
I did like my iPhone... for the whole three weeks I had it before it fell out of my pocket on the subway last December. The only reason I haven't just replaced that is... well... frankly, my other fingers were getting jealous. So no more thumb-boards for me.
I think the Lifebook u810 is just slightly too cramped to accommodate heavy use... otherwise, it's near perfect imho.
Kaye, I am also looking for an ultraportable for working with text. I've come a cross a review of Toshiba r500 and now I consider it an option. However I haven't had a chance to put my hands on it. According to the reviewers it is only 810g with a basic battery and the keyboard is said to be designed for touch typing. I don't know. I'll wait for the HP 2133 to start shipping and then I'll make up mind.
I know I don't really need more than a 10" diagonal widescreen (16:9 standard please). The 12" Powerbook I'm used to has a 4:3 aspect ratio, the same as the older TVs, which is perfect for handling text but it's getting pretty hard to find anymore and is a little underpowered for competition in the current market. I wish I could compare it side-by-side with the 15" MacBook Pro, because I think this keyboard is just slightly larger... no more than say a centimeter overall, but just enough so that I miss-key a lot and feel like I'm reaching too far when I'm barely even hitting the edges. It's really irritating to have to watch my hands instead of the screen... I haven't had to work this hard to touch type since I was a kid. I don't even have exceptionally small hands or anything, but I don't have big meaty mitts either...
Maybe gadgets should start coming ergonomically sized? 95% of standard for kids and people with petite hands; standard for average adult hands, and 105% for the guys who feel ridiculous handling all these micro-devices. You know? I actually really like the iPhone's size, but none of my friends or family could get any use out of the keypad because they were hitting multiple buttons. They all wished there were a bigger version to accommodate them (and, you know, probably a third of the geeks here on engadget complaining about having "sausage fingers"). The little shiny was awkward for them just to hold, some of my friends were afraid of breaking it just because it is such a dainty device...
It's not like Apple (or any other corp.) would have to worry about keeping bigger versions pocketable... because, well, bigger people tend to have bigger pockets. Speaking of pockets, (apologies, totally off topic...) what's with girl clothes A.) having freaking impossibly SMALL pockets, B.) not having ANY pockets, C.) having FAKE pockets...??? Or, the worst scenario EVER: having the appearance of having really small pockets, which you later realize are fake, and not ending up with any.
I should probably shut up now.
Can it run windows xp???
well it's april 7th now, anyone heard anything?
I contacted HP today and they told me that the product has not yet launched but is expected to within the next two weeks.
I'm waiting.... Refresh, Refresh, Refresh, Refresh......
Amazon.com has the product placeholder set up -- search on "hp mini-note".
If you search for "hp mini-note" on Froogle, you'll find that Digital Universe is apparently already taking orders.
Note that this is being sold under HP's Commercial unit. I don't know if there are any restrictions for the general public.
Another interesting thing that it looks like there are defiantly more options than the specs sheet provided.
One of the more interesting thing is one with 1.0GHz and 4GB of Flash as storage.
http://www.amazon.com/Mini-Note-PC-C7-M-1-0GHz-4GFLa/dp/B00170KD0Y/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=industrial&qid=1207608764&sr=8-5
HP 2133 Mini-Note PC - Smart Buy VIA C7-M Processor (1.0GHz) 8.9" diagonal WXGA (1280x768), 4GB Flash, 512MB 667MHz DDR2 (1D), Broadcom b/g, 10/100/100 nic, VIA Chrome 9 UMA, Camera, 3 cell Li-ion battery, SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10
I looked at some video reviews and the guy said that the weight is 1.3Kg and 1.46Kg with the 6-cell battery. You can even open it to replace/add RAM or change hard drive behind the battery if you take it out.Too bad hp blew it with VIA processor.