Considering that Samsung's
YP-P2 just might be the most
updated PMP
of all
time, we're guessing that a lot of things that users would have changed just months ago have already been done by the powers that be. That being said, we critical gadget owners are never truly satisfied at heart, so we're curious to know how you'd spin the forthcoming firmware update(s). Or would you focus your attention on external matters, instead? We know you've had ample time to fool around with one of Sammy's most prized media players ever, so don't be shy down there in comments, alright? Who knows -- your recommendations could be front and center in the next
Blue Wave.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
James Cameron @ Apr 25th 2008 6:32PM
Turn it into a mobile phone.
Jeff @ Apr 25th 2008 6:53PM
word
Johan S @ Apr 25th 2008 7:00PM
The phone capability chip circuitry costs under $20 dollars or less .. havent checked in a while. El cheapo camera? $8
So agreed (with GPS of course).
And bump the LCD resolution up to at least WVGA so it can be used to watch HD movies and surf the web with ease.
So sure, it will increase the cost. But people will buy it, people rather pay money for quality than be stingy for crap.
Most people have to buy two devices .. so why not include all of those in one gadget? It actually saves money.
ECG @ Apr 25th 2008 7:09PM
That would be one fat battery hungry machine. That's the problem with all in ones.
HB @ Apr 25th 2008 7:15PM
i will put an apple logo on it
Johan S @ Apr 25th 2008 7:19PM
@ECG
Power management. It doesnt have to power anything it's not using.
coolbee8 @ Apr 25th 2008 7:53PM
Better sound quality than D2, and I'm sold, ya, 50 hours + battery life in P3 would be nice
conor @ Apr 25th 2008 8:42PM
turn it into a psp! (which by the way is updated more.)
Steffen Jobbs @ Apr 25th 2008 10:53PM
I will put a Zune logo on it. They will both suffer the same fate.
Jeebus @ Apr 28th 2008 12:42PM
Just make it play FLAC, and I'll be happy. Well, almost happy. Make it play FLAC, and print lyrics from LYRICS tag, and I'll be really happy. And make the cover pic fill the entire screen.
Ravi Kapoor @ Apr 25th 2008 6:33PM
32 gb flash. i'd buy it in a heartbeat.
kimatg @ Apr 26th 2008 3:26AM
how bout a 256GB SSD in 2009?
http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/04/samsung-intros-spinpoint-mp2-reiterates-plans-for-256gb-ssd-in/
lol
HalfJoey @ Apr 25th 2008 6:37PM
Built in browser + Wifi and more storage.
Jason @ Apr 25th 2008 6:38PM
I would put a Grand Theft Auto IV girl licking a lollipop on it, really big.
Hernan Paredes @ Apr 25th 2008 6:38PM
the 3 above comments hit, what i was gonna say perfectly.
Hernan Paredes @ Apr 25th 2008 6:39PM
the 3 first comments*
gad get @ Apr 27th 2008 6:41AM
OK, you had me just a little worried.
Iain @ Apr 25th 2008 6:44PM
Like Ravi said, more memory.
And also a little cheaper please.
Beyond that, maybe an SDHC or MicroSDHC card slot and we'd be laughing.
Mobius_1 @ Apr 25th 2008 11:50PM
That "we" doesn't include Apple, (or Microsoft, or Creative, or...) does it?
t3_slider @ Apr 25th 2008 6:47PM
'Cause THAT helped. You know, although the iPhone is "nice" (I personally wouldn't buy it and would prefer something a little more flexible like the Neo1973, but I'm a geek), there ARE other things out there that are also very nice, and serve a different purpose. The iPhone is not the end-all-be-all gadget for the rest of time, or even right now. Believe it or not, there ARE some things the iPhone cannot do (I know, surprising, right?).
But I guess you'll get high-ranked and me low-ranked because this is engadget after all, and the iPhone trumps all, and EVERY single topic, whether related even remotely to Apple or the iPod/iPhone or not, must receive at least one response (usually multiple responses) like this. So good for you for doing things the engadget way!
MacVicta @ Apr 25th 2008 6:49PM
I'd add the revolutionary OS X multi-touch interface
iTunes syncing
The critically acclaimed Mobile Safari web browser
Third party applications and games this June that will go unrivaled in functionality
The availability of 8gb, 16gb and 32gb capacities
The wireless iTunes store
Google maps
YouTube videos
The ability to view my e-mail
A weather widget
And I'd pretty much be set.
Ben @ Apr 25th 2008 6:53PM
So you would double the price for about 10% more content and a pretty box?
trev @ Apr 25th 2008 7:46PM
You would also want to give it the same crappy sound quality to match right?
maff @ Apr 25th 2008 8:58PM
total NOB WRASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JAB @ Apr 25th 2008 10:07PM
So, either this guy is paid by Apple to say that or somebody needs a hobby.
cwj @ Apr 26th 2008 1:27PM
big
ass
eyeroll
SDHC would wrk for me.
Price drop always helps.
Oooo, I know make it Rockbox compatible!!!!!
Oh, wait that would make it like an iPod.
an old
monochrome
iPod.
but, yeah, expandable storage. Mos' def.
t3_slider @ Apr 26th 2008 4:36PM
Where the hell are you getting "unrivaled in functionality" from? (I mean, these apps with "unrivaled functionality" haven't even been released yet -- how do you know they will be "unrivaled"?) You cannot open-source the apps as easily as on a less restrictive device, meaning less innovation (well, equal innovation but less collaboration). You think the iPhone apps will rock? Go check some of the apps for the not-even-released-yet Android phones. Seriously, get a hobby. And a reality check.
n00bs4all @ Apr 27th 2008 5:28PM
was that sarcasm? CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED SAFARI? that $h!t got macbook air pwned in 8 seconds.
Ben @ Apr 25th 2008 6:53PM
I was going to ask how that improves the YP-P2, but then it hit me: by Apple fanboys not buying it in favor of the OBVIOUSLY far superior Apple products, no one will know how cool it is, or perhaps even what the YP-P2 is, so then no one will buy them, and the price will drop. Improvement.
So, you saying you would improve it by lowering the price, right?
Andy @ Apr 25th 2008 6:58PM
Wi-fi, 32Gb, Internet Browser as people have already mentioned. Then I would round off the corners a little since its a bit square. Slap in a few coloured options, Silver, Black, White, Red etc. Next add a small speaker and microphone so you can use it as a portable dictaphone. Give it standardised media formats (apparently you have to convert videos to a proprietary Samsung format!?!). Calculators obviously just been added, but how about a built in dictionary/thesarus. Add in a calendar facility that syncs with Outlook. Drop in a stylus somewhere and put a small scribble/note pad facility so that you can jot down memos and save them as pictures for later retrieval.
Oh and a stopwatch with laptimers and an Alarm function using the newly added speaker. If they did this it would replace a shedload of gadgets
ECG @ Apr 25th 2008 7:01PM
It's already available in white, black and red and it has a microphone. Voice recording is supposed to be coming in the next update.
monkfishbandana @ Apr 25th 2008 8:55PM
Microphone? Then it's easy...
Skype!
hotdogson @ Apr 26th 2008 6:42AM
Probably a few will agree with me, but I found having dictionary (english to whatever language) quite helpful when talking to a foreigner or when traveling... May not be used often but hey, when you need it, it can be quite useful (an app that used when I had the Cowon D2)?.
Joe @ Apr 25th 2008 7:00PM
Ability to listen to FM through the Bluetooth Stereo Headset
GumbyX84 @ Apr 25th 2008 9:03PM
Thats a limitation of FM technology. The wired headphones are used as antenna. It is technically possible to use the radio with BT headphones, but you wouldn't be getting a very good signal
Yuri @ Apr 25th 2008 7:05PM
I'd love to see the UI improve a tiiiiny bit. It's easy to use, but the double-tapping isn't going so well sometimes.
I'd love to see touch sensitivity fixed up a bit.
I'd love to see a longer battery life.
I'd love to see texting available via bluetooth. I was kind of sad I wasn't able to just text, but my P2 keeps beeping when I get a message. I don't care if it's a standard numeric keypad.
I'd love to see more customization options. I'd also love to see the damn bar at the bottom of the myskin gone. Ahhh!!! Why are all other buttons transparent, but on myskins, it's not, when the skin is meant to showoff a photograph of some sort.
The ambient light sensor on the touch, I'd love to see on the P2. I go outside, and have to manually adjust the brightness. I get inside, I have to manually dim it.
I'd love to see the screen get a lot brighter. It's impossible to read outside.
Take off the damn karaoke shit on lyrics.
Support Japanese D< I keep manually typing out lyrics to my songs only to have them come up as @!@$#@%#$%^ ^&^%# @#$%T#$%^%$ ~~~%^%$^%$
More space, but the limited technology holds us back from that. I will probably wait until a 32GB P2 comes out as opposed to a new iPod, as 4GB is nothing for me....60GB was nothing for me...but I like the touchscreens.
I'd love to see an increase in accessories. I dropped it once and now it's got a paint chip and a slight mark on the top corner of the player. I'd love to have a case I didn't have to pay $50 for. A DECENT case.
Make more games. There is a touch screen. So many things can come out of it! Simple games, and solitaire would be amazing! Oooooh pyramids too!
Music controls while playing games. Perhaps just implement them into the menu or the need to tap the top corner or something, but them existing would be amazing.
Christian @ Apr 25th 2008 7:13PM
I'd like it if it can share stuff wirelessly (I haven't read the updates but I thought the bluetooth function was only for phone and headset x2)
I'd wish for it to be a wireless remote control, don't know if this has infrared, but it'd be cool to control the PS3 thru bluetooth
Does this already have GPS function or camera? I'd like those too.
I'd like this to have satellite radio as well or HD radio.
I saw that the Korean version can watch TVs with theirs, it'd be nice too for this one but I guess there's too much hassle since we're switching DTV by 2009.
And since I'm thinking of adding so much stuff, I'd hope that they have two types of detachable batteries included, a slim and an extended life version(s).
rektide @ Apr 25th 2008 7:13PM
Useless as fuck without AT LEAST one SDHC slot.
LPT812 @ Apr 26th 2008 5:06AM
why not a gp2x?
Greg @ Apr 25th 2008 7:16PM
Emulators. Half the reason I want an ipod touch is to play old NES and SNES games on the fly. Get that on the p2 and I'd buy one tomorrow
conor @ Apr 25th 2008 8:48PM
buy a PSP!
eflyersteve @ Apr 25th 2008 7:16PM
Widgets - like weather and news that automatically update via BT cell phone.
Browser
Streaming media (flash, video, audio)
SD card slot.
Jay @ Apr 25th 2008 7:28PM
I've compiled a list of suggestions from forums (some may seem far out):
Main Menu:
- Better Cosmos menu (no 1 turn before start scrolling)
- Voice Recording
- More menu styles
- Ability to change/move icons
Interface:
- Option for one tap select
- Smoother interface
- More animations in interface with option to turn them off
- Option for reversed finger slide for skipping tracks
- Better volume change with touchscreen
- Better scrolling, e.g. one flick scrolls through all songs or circular gesture scrolling like cosmos menu
- Custom colors
- Custom/more fonts
- Hold for touchscreen only
- Hold for touchscreen and play/pause button
- Hold for touchscreen and volume buttons
- Password protection
- Custom start screen/no start screen
- Horizontal mode
- Option to have battery indicator say a percentage
- Animated wallpaper support (either gif or video)
- Option to get rid of the scroll bar (tap top/bottom of screen instead)
- Auto background for days of the week
- Random wallpaper mode (picks random image for wallpaper)
- Option to turn off screen after 5 and 10 seconds
- Option to stay at current menu when screen turns off instead of going to now playing screen
- Changeable clock styles
- Option to remove clock from Matrix and My Skin
- Ability to lock/unlock using the screen
- Ability to use tactile buttons without turning on screen and without pressing them twice
- Auto pause music/video when headphones are pulled out of jack
Music:
- Shuffle is a list (so skipping back a song plays the last song played, not a new random one)
- Coverflow (something similar to it)
- ID3 tag editor
- Gapless playback
- DNSe over BT headphones
- Crossfading
- Song queing
- More visualizations/play screen modes
- Interactive visualizations
- Ability to save user EQs
- A shuffle mode for artist/album only
- Auto album art option to show cover art when the song has one, and a visualization when it doesn't
- Full screen album art and visualizations
- Ability to show artist and album along with track title and album art
- Smart playlists, e.g. most played songs
- Option to turn on Sound Leveling
Video:
- Slow mo ability
- Closed caption option
- Video podcast support
- Ability to play just the audio of a video
Prime Pack:
- Sketch pad
- Note pad
- Text editor
- Maps
- More functionality in calendar (e.g. event adding)
- Custom games/More games
- Calculator
- Dictionary in all firmwares
- 3rd party apps
- Ability to listen to music while playing games
- Tetris as a game
- Currency converter
- Virtual DJ (ability to make circle motions like scratching and have the music respond accordingly)
- Abilty to add multiple bookmarks
- Ability to add your own pics for Puzzle game
- Text viewer slideshow, turns page at set interval
- Ability to edit dictionary
- Ability to add to address book on P2
- Ability to have alarm go to the normal now playing screen
File Browser:
- Search
- Moving, cutting, copying, and pasting files in the file browser
- Ability to view more info on files in the file browser
- Ability to delete folders
- Automatically skipping to next folder when done playing music in current folder
Bluetooth:
- Texting between P2s
- Caller ID with photo
- Ringtones for calls
- BT web browser
Photo:
- Faster photo viewer
- Image editor
FM Radio:
- Ability to go to other menus while listening to FM radio
Other:
- More file types supported (namely PDF, FLAC, and PNG)
- Ability to turn the light off and change its color
- Custom functions for volume buttons (e.g. FF and RW)
- Last.FM trick to recognize it as an iPod
- Battery saving mode where you only get the song list and a now playing screen
- Ability to switch between MTP and UMS on the player
- Voice commands
- Time zones instead of location for clock set
ECG @ Apr 25th 2008 7:43PM
- Voice Recording: coming soon
- More menu styles: already here and more on the way
- Coverflow (something similar to it): Displays album art in menus since 2nd blue wave update
- Password protection: coming next update
- Full screen album art and visualizations: has full screen album art since FW 4.13
- Slow mo ability: as of 4.13
- Ability to play just the audio of a video: as of 4.13 (turns screen off)
- Calculator: as of 4.13
Frank Furter @ Apr 25th 2008 8:02PM
What's wrong with you. Really.
ECG @ Apr 25th 2008 8:16PM
huh?
Loonie @ Apr 25th 2008 7:37PM
SDHC slot.
Coleman Foley @ Apr 25th 2008 7:43PM
add a browser, and make the screen 5" 800x480. have an open source os
Yevon @ Apr 25th 2008 9:12PM
Dude, thats a new device, not an update. Let's be realistic here.
gad get @ Apr 27th 2008 6:25AM
5" screen? Are you kidding me? Might as well make the thing a full UMPC and be done with it!