Wait, so taxpayers at the federal, state, and local level are all going to subsidize a-holes who want to make fuel from sugar? So people who use gasoline get taxed and $hitheads who use food for fuel get subsidies?
People who advocate using food for fuel, be they hippies or greedy corporate bastards, should all be publicly shot.
Now come on be nice to the people using and giving the OK to use our limited food supply to make fuel, these are more important people then everyone else on the planet especially the people starving all around the world because they can't afford to buy food. Who's really impressed that they get to drive around in there gas guzzlers? Oh ya only the other Jack&$$'s that drive similar vehicle's.
i agree, the world needs to first be able to feed EVERYONE before rich countries begin using food for fuel instead of feeding less fortunate individuals.
E-fuel is NOT the answer for a new energy system because it has the same limitations as oil: It has a finite supply. While it can be regrown each year we only have so much farmland. Our farmland will not grow along with our demand for more energy like other types will. Solar and wind can both be made more efficient at capturing and transforming the limitless supply of energy into usable energy for us.
Ethanol is definitely not a perfect solution, but it's amazing how quickly it became a whipping boy.
"agree, the world needs to first be able to feed EVERYONE before rich countries begin using food for fuel instead of feeding less fortunate individuals."
Um.... how is the food going to get from the rich countries to the poor ones? Magic? Teleportation? Most actual analysts as opposed to bloggers believe current food issues are more related to high fuel costs and political issues than lack of arable land. And current land could be much more efficiently used if we could get fertilizer, seeds, and know-how to poorer countries. And all that takes fuel. I'm pretty tired of this "ethanol is food directly out of someone's mouth" talk. It's like saying "How dare someone who only has $10 for food waste money on a bus pass!' they should walk to the convenience store for $5 beef jerky instead of taking the bus to the supermarket? And yes, locally grown food, organic farming, etc, etc... The simple fact is, things aren't as simple as "food or fuel" and we shouldn't be flogging people for trying to innovate in areas that don't meet your personal holy grail of energy production (oh, and solar and wind aren't perfect. Fusion is nice, but let's actually see it). How about we keep trying things and see what works?
That said, this thing is probably not going to work. I mean, really.
I'm not opposed to generating fuel from food because I have some dumb notion that it is going to cause starvation. I am against it because it is so inefficient that it costs us more than we get out of it.
I agree!! These biofuels are quickly becoming the wrong thing to do. Big mistake by our "leaders". Not a good time for this company to be entering the market with such a thing - wonder if they will sell any - probably not. Ten grand buys a lot of gasoline - even at today's prices.
hey, there are more things to consider. our military expenditures are tax dollars going to securing the oil. if that was applied to the price, oil would be a lot more expensive.
then there is the issue of dead soldiers securing our oil, which god put under their sand. but im a veteran, and i know nobody gives a shit about them.
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Wait, so taxpayers at the federal, state, and local level are all going to subsidize a-holes who want to make fuel from sugar? So people who use gasoline get taxed and $hitheads who use food for fuel get subsidies?
People who advocate using food for fuel, be they hippies or greedy corporate bastards, should all be publicly shot.
+1
Right on.
Don't drive-up the cost of my sugar-filled Coke by attacking sugar for fuel!
Now come on be nice to the people using and giving the OK to use our limited food supply to make fuel, these are more important people then everyone else on the planet especially the people starving all around the world because they can't afford to buy food. Who's really impressed that they get to drive around in there gas guzzlers? Oh ya only the other Jack&$$'s that drive similar vehicle's.
i agree, the world needs to first be able to feed EVERYONE before rich countries begin using food for fuel instead of feeding less fortunate individuals.
E-fuel is NOT the answer for a new energy system because it has the same limitations as oil: It has a finite supply. While it can be regrown each year we only have so much farmland. Our farmland will not grow along with our demand for more energy like other types will. Solar and wind can both be made more efficient at capturing and transforming the limitless supply of energy into usable energy for us.
Amen brother. This whole bio-fuel craze is the most insane thing to come around for decades.
Ethanol is definitely not a perfect solution, but it's amazing how quickly it became a whipping boy.
"agree, the world needs to first be able to feed EVERYONE before rich countries begin using food for fuel instead of feeding less fortunate individuals."
Um.... how is the food going to get from the rich countries to the poor ones? Magic? Teleportation? Most actual analysts as opposed to bloggers believe current food issues are more related to high fuel costs and political issues than lack of arable land. And current land could be much more efficiently used if we could get fertilizer, seeds, and know-how to poorer countries. And all that takes fuel. I'm pretty tired of this "ethanol is food directly out of someone's mouth" talk. It's like saying "How dare someone who only has $10 for food waste money on a bus pass!' they should walk to the convenience store for $5 beef jerky instead of taking the bus to the supermarket? And yes, locally grown food, organic farming, etc, etc... The simple fact is, things aren't as simple as "food or fuel" and we shouldn't be flogging people for trying to innovate in areas that don't meet your personal holy grail of energy production (oh, and solar and wind aren't perfect. Fusion is nice, but let's actually see it). How about we keep trying things and see what works?
That said, this thing is probably not going to work. I mean, really.
I'm not opposed to generating fuel from food because I have some dumb notion that it is going to cause starvation. I am against it because it is so inefficient that it costs us more than we get out of it.
I agree!! These biofuels are quickly becoming the wrong thing to do. Big mistake by our "leaders". Not a good time for this company to be entering the market with such a thing - wonder if they will sell any - probably not. Ten grand buys a lot of gasoline - even at today's prices.
hey, there are more things to consider. our military expenditures are tax dollars going to securing the oil. if that was applied to the price, oil would be a lot more expensive.
then there is the issue of dead soldiers securing our oil, which god put under their sand. but im a veteran, and i know nobody gives a shit about them.