The truth of this whole thing is that MS holds over 90% of the computer market, but it is based on a cheap copy of a Mac. Whenever I ask someone why they still use a PC, the answer is always, 'Awww, Mac's are too expensive.' Course they're expensive. You get what you pay for. How often do we her about some virus infecting a PC that cost a couple of hundred dollars? Or even $1500 dollars? It's because the people at MS try to copy Macs OS, but don't spend enough time or money copying it correctly. They're being cheap again with the product, but lavish in their spending on advertsing. What's wrong with this picture?
As for the ads... Trying to convert PC users is the main task. And it's actually beginning to work, little by little. A couple of years ago, the Mac slice was only 3%. Now it's a massive 6 or 8% Woohoo! Only the die-hard, we-shall-never-move-forward, boring grey PC users who are scared to change in case they are proven wrong nerds are complaining the loudest. I say, bring on the Seinfeld ads. I love a funny commercial, no matter what it's for, and if MS can entertain me, thats a good thing. But remember... MS already holds over 90% of the market!!! WTF are they trying to do? All it's doing is reminding us of Macs, and just how good they are! Why else are they advertising like that? They are admitting that PCs are inferior, and they want to halt the flow away from the Dark Side.
I rest my case. Give up you PC/Windows users... you have to admit you're arguing for an inferior product.
You can buy 4 GB ram from a 3rd party for less than $100. Apple charges you $300 for RAM they don't even make in-house.
Don't tell me you get what you pay for...Assuming you spend $100 on 4GB RAM purchased elsewhere, it STILL doesn't cost $200 to push a few sticks of RAM into a laptop's motherboard, not any day of the week.
*shrug* I just had a PO signed for $3500 for 32gb of IBM-branded FB-DIMMs for a server I've got at work. The memory is worth way less than that, and IBM doesn't make it anyway. Same argument. In this case, keeping everything under the support contract makes it worth the markup.
... meanwhile I just bought 2GB of DDR2-800 SO-DIMMs for my mom's iMac on newegg for $35. Good thing it's a free market and Apple makes public the specs of the RAM they use and the instructions for installing it. Hell, they even have a pictogram on the base of the iMac showing how to add RAM.
I have never purchased a pre-assembled desktop, but from what I've seen from friends who have purchased from Dell (and companies of the like I imagine), they too give the specifications of their computers' motherboards' supported RAM, and instructions for RAM installation / upgrading.
I'm pretty sure my laptop has documentation of it somewhere, but I wouldn't know - the book it came with is in a bag with the rest of the packaged junk - it's still in its shrink-wrap, har har.
But on the point, even Dell overcharges for RAM. Hell, everyone does... At least I have the choice to take a step back and see where I'll be getting the best deal, whether that be in purchasing a computer with Linux (or maybe just Linux support), Windows, or OS X...
However... You can't (legally, and I guess even that's a point of contention) choose what computer you have your Mac OS X on. So Apple has its monopoly over the Mac OS X powered computers. If I were a fairly unsavvy individual, and if I wanted to shop around for the best deal for the most ram a Mac OS X powered computer, I couldn't look anywhere else than Apple. So... if we're going to suggest that all major computer vendors (is that the right word to group companies like Toshiba, Dell, HP, Apple, etc?) inform the user of how to replace some of their products guts (ram, disk drive, ...maybe video card), then clearly the playing field is level for those who know how to mess with their computer, but for those who would be uncertain or incapable of installing their own RAM or upgrading their disk drive (which now I'm thinking is almost impossible with a Mac)... Apple is really gouging its users.
Hell, I'm thinking Apple has a more significant monopoly than Microsoft does. The only real attraction in a Mac is OS X, which is x86-64 compatible... companies (Pystar comes to mind) should be making computers that are OS X compatible.... except for the fact that you are forced into using OS X only on Apple licensed products according to a EULA or summat. (I don't even like Microsoft's tactics but) At least Windows can be installed on any computer that you want.
See, I've given Microsoft some pretty legitimate points already........ damn.
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The truth of this whole thing is that MS holds over 90% of the computer market, but it is based on a cheap copy of a Mac. Whenever I ask someone why they still use a PC, the answer is always, 'Awww, Mac's are too expensive.' Course they're expensive. You get what you pay for. How often do we her about some virus infecting a PC that cost a couple of hundred dollars? Or even $1500 dollars? It's because the people at MS try to copy Macs OS, but don't spend enough time or money copying it correctly. They're being cheap again with the product, but lavish in their spending on advertsing. What's wrong with this picture?
As for the ads... Trying to convert PC users is the main task. And it's actually beginning to work, little by little. A couple of years ago, the Mac slice was only 3%. Now it's a massive 6 or 8% Woohoo! Only the die-hard, we-shall-never-move-forward, boring grey PC users who are scared to change in case they are proven wrong nerds are complaining the loudest. I say, bring on the Seinfeld ads. I love a funny commercial, no matter what it's for, and if MS can entertain me, thats a good thing. But remember... MS already holds over 90% of the market!!! WTF are they trying to do? All it's doing is reminding us of Macs, and just how good they are! Why else are they advertising like that? They are admitting that PCs are inferior, and they want to halt the flow away from the Dark Side.
I rest my case. Give up you PC/Windows users... you have to admit you're arguing for an inferior product.
As long as you can buy a complete PC at Wal-Mart for $500, people will continue to buy PCs.
250,000,000 PCs were sold last year. And how many of them will switch to a Mac when they buy their next computer?
I love Macs, and I'd love for more people to have Macs. But, the Windows train will never slow down.
How's MobileMe working for you?
Feeling secure with that Safari Browser on that mac?
From the Apple Store, for a MacBook purchase:
# 1GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x512MB
# 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB [Add $100.00]
# 4GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x2GB [Add $300.00]
You can buy 4 GB ram from a 3rd party for less than $100. Apple charges you $300 for RAM they don't even make in-house.
Don't tell me you get what you pay for...Assuming you spend $100 on 4GB RAM purchased elsewhere, it STILL doesn't cost $200 to push a few sticks of RAM into a laptop's motherboard, not any day of the week.
Unless you buy from Apple.
but can your mac play Crysis?
Soulinether,
*shrug* I just had a PO signed for $3500 for 32gb of IBM-branded FB-DIMMs for a server I've got at work. The memory is worth way less than that, and IBM doesn't make it anyway. Same argument. In this case, keeping everything under the support contract makes it worth the markup.
... meanwhile I just bought 2GB of DDR2-800 SO-DIMMs for my mom's iMac on newegg for $35. Good thing it's a free market and Apple makes public the specs of the RAM they use and the instructions for installing it. Hell, they even have a pictogram on the base of the iMac showing how to add RAM.
@UnixSystemsEngineer (or the guy above me lol)
I have never purchased a pre-assembled desktop, but from what I've seen from friends who have purchased from Dell (and companies of the like I imagine), they too give the specifications of their computers' motherboards' supported RAM, and instructions for RAM installation / upgrading.
I'm pretty sure my laptop has documentation of it somewhere, but I wouldn't know - the book it came with is in a bag with the rest of the packaged junk - it's still in its shrink-wrap, har har.
But on the point, even Dell overcharges for RAM. Hell, everyone does... At least I have the choice to take a step back and see where I'll be getting the best deal, whether that be in purchasing a computer with Linux (or maybe just Linux support), Windows, or OS X...
However... You can't (legally, and I guess even that's a point of contention) choose what computer you have your Mac OS X on. So Apple has its monopoly over the Mac OS X powered computers. If I were a fairly unsavvy individual, and if I wanted to shop around for the best deal for the most ram a Mac OS X powered computer, I couldn't look anywhere else than Apple. So... if we're going to suggest that all major computer vendors (is that the right word to group companies like Toshiba, Dell, HP, Apple, etc?) inform the user of how to replace some of their products guts (ram, disk drive, ...maybe video card), then clearly the playing field is level for those who know how to mess with their computer, but for those who would be uncertain or incapable of installing their own RAM or upgrading their disk drive (which now I'm thinking is almost impossible with a Mac)... Apple is really gouging its users.
Hell, I'm thinking Apple has a more significant monopoly than Microsoft does. The only real attraction in a Mac is OS X, which is x86-64 compatible... companies (Pystar comes to mind) should be making computers that are OS X compatible.... except for the fact that you are forced into using OS X only on Apple licensed products according to a EULA or summat. (I don't even like Microsoft's tactics but) At least Windows can be installed on any computer that you want.
See, I've given Microsoft some pretty legitimate points already........ damn.