Part of what sets the Macbook Air apart, as well the Macbook & Pro, is the great operation system. I'm not saying it's a value buy, because it isn't, but no way can Windows XP or Vista beat OS X Tiger / Leopard. This observation comes from a 15 yr. Windows Tech..
I like OSX, but it's simply too limiting and barely any of the software and games I own run on it, and it's tied into grossly overpriced hardware. It may be good, but when it's tied into a Mac it's a good 'feature' of a machine that overall is just bad value for money.
No, what makes apple so appealing is 1) eyecandy 2) existing hate of micro$oft 3) inability of a user to use linux 4) a very savvy advertising campaign 5) deep pockets with lonely dollars just begging to be spent
sure a fully decked out mac pro is a rip off, but the mini, and entry versions of the MB and MBP are actually pretty competitive, especially with other name brands like sony, toshiba, et al
The MBP is certainly not value for money, Alienware have better price:performance then the MBP. The Macbook is OK in terms but there's still much better available for slightly cheaper. And the mac mini may have a good price point but is too limiting in terms of hardware.
I can see why people would like OSX, but when you trade a list of bad things such as bad value for money, boring design (subjective), difficult to upgrade/repair, lack of software options, sub par screens etc. for the one good thing of having a slightly more reliable, slightly easier to use operating system. It's just not worth it.
I agree they are rip offs, but they still give you a better price/performance ratio then the MBP does. I wasn't making a point about dedicated gaming, I was making the point that if you take 2 laptops which are the same size and have the same specs and price, except 1 laptop has dual graphics cards costing in excess of £300. Which one is the better deal?
It just seems a little stupid to go for a Mac, when for the same money you could buy a PC that does everything the Mac can, and much much more. Neither is windows difficult to use, nor does it crash, nor is it noticeably slower than OSX when doing day to day stuff. And even if you just want what the Mac can do, why not go for the PC which with the same specs will be 20-50% cheaper.
Righhhhht.. planet earth to Sam, others: People don't buy Macs in droves because of clever advertising that somehow tricked them into doing so. They see better value, period.
The MBP is the smallest 15" laptop you can buy for money - fact. Maybe you don't care about that - but please consider that others do. The same goes for other features that set these machines apart - OS X, light up keyboard, fit and finish, etc. Maybe you don't care about these things and they don't add any value for you. But over 2M people do see the value every quarter - fact. Apple consistently tops satisfaction surveys too.
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Part of what sets the Macbook Air apart, as well the Macbook & Pro, is the great operation system. I'm not saying it's a value buy, because it isn't, but no way can Windows XP or Vista beat OS X Tiger / Leopard. This observation comes from a 15 yr. Windows Tech..
so once you reach the 15 year mark in IT you get to call it "operation system"?
Then your comment is invalid because you've seen the worst of Windows.
I take it you haven't seen the worst in Mac OS X?
I like OSX, but it's simply too limiting and barely any of the software and games I own run on it, and it's tied into grossly overpriced hardware. It may be good, but when it's tied into a Mac it's a good 'feature' of a machine that overall is just bad value for money.
Wow what flamebait
No, what makes apple so appealing is
1) eyecandy
2) existing hate of micro$oft
3) inability of a user to use linux
4) a very savvy advertising campaign
5) deep pockets with lonely dollars just begging to be spent
"is just bad value for money."
not if you like or need OSX.
sure a fully decked out mac pro is a rip off, but the mini, and entry versions of the MB and MBP are actually pretty competitive, especially with other name brands like sony, toshiba, et al
The MBP is certainly not value for money, Alienware have better price:performance then the MBP. The Macbook is OK in terms but there's still much better available for slightly cheaper. And the mac mini may have a good price point but is too limiting in terms of hardware.
I can see why people would like OSX, but when you trade a list of bad things such as bad value for money, boring design (subjective), difficult to upgrade/repair, lack of software options, sub par screens etc. for the one good thing of having a slightly more reliable, slightly easier to use operating system. It's just not worth it.
dude seriously? everyone knows alienware's are ripoffs and have the worst service/support in the industry. just sayin'
either way, since you're buying dedicated gaming machines, clearly you're the wrong demographic for a mac.
It's so pathetic when people tack on obvious bullshit like "15 years of experience" in order to sound credible.
You're an ass.
I agree they are rip offs, but they still give you a better price/performance ratio then the MBP does. I wasn't making a point about dedicated gaming, I was making the point that if you take 2 laptops which are the same size and have the same specs and price, except 1 laptop has dual graphics cards costing in excess of £300. Which one is the better deal?
It just seems a little stupid to go for a Mac, when for the same money you could buy a PC that does everything the Mac can, and much much more. Neither is windows difficult to use, nor does it crash, nor is it noticeably slower than OSX when doing day to day stuff. And even if you just want what the Mac can do, why not go for the PC which with the same specs will be 20-50% cheaper.
Well 14 of those must have been in the womb.
Righhhhht.. planet earth to Sam, others: People don't buy Macs in droves because of clever advertising that somehow tricked them into doing so. They see better value, period.
The MBP is the smallest 15" laptop you can buy for money - fact. Maybe you don't care about that - but please consider that others do. The same goes for other features that set these machines apart - OS X, light up keyboard, fit and finish, etc. Maybe you don't care about these things and they don't add any value for you. But over 2M people do see the value every quarter - fact. Apple consistently tops satisfaction surveys too.
I think he meant to say "15 yr OLD windows tech"...