Chevy Volt rolls out into the open at long last
By Donald Melanson 
posted Sep 8th 2008 2:22PM
posted Sep 8th 2008 2:22PM
It's official public debut may still only be coming next week, but it looks like GM has finally decided to give up on the carefully-chosen teaser shots and let the hotly-anticipated Volt out in the open for all the internet to see. No doubt to the dismay of some, the would-be next Prius sure looks a good deal different than the far more angular prototype we've all come to know over the past little while, although we can't say we're exactly surprised given GM's mass-market hopes for the car. Still, it is quite the milestone for the auto industry, and hopefully only the start of things to come. Be sure to hit up Autoblog for a gallery full of more pics of your favorite GM execs -- and the Volt, too.
Its Beautiful
I LOVE IT :)
Aveo + Yaris = VOLT.
Beautiful...
No its not....
But if you mean the Guy, I cant respond I like women.
The headlight reminds me of Acrua TSX
they are biting off Acura alright.. but unlike Honda their hybrid car might electrocute you and fry your entire family. Hell they cant even make a simple windshield washer work right.
http://digg.com/autos/ALERT_GM_Recalling_944_000_Vehicles
At least you won't be killed in a crash unlike
BMW
http://digg.com/autos/BMW_recalling_200_000_vehicles_OOPS
or stall in a Toyota
http://digg.com/tech_news/Toyota_Recalls_75%2C000_Prius_Vehicles_
or
http://digg.com/business_finance/Toyota_to_recall_533_000_SUVs_trucks
Ugh, that fake grille looks horrible.
The rest of the car, however, looks alright.
It's a Prius with a funny grill! And weird fog lights!
They took out the angularity and replaced it with Toyota.
The guy standing next to the car in that picture basically makes me NOT want to buy it.
Any of the pics in the photo gallery could be pretty good standalone shots for the car, but no, what does GM do? Stick a bunch of "I-totally-finked-dis-one-up" executives standing proudly in front of it like they birthed the thing 5 minutes before they took the photo.
Honestly, leave it to them to fuck yet another something simple up. It's the car, idiots, not you, that we care about.
I'm seriously depressed by the styling. The angular, stout, oh-so-mean looking volt was so distinctive. This thing looks like a cheap chevy malibu with the VOLT!!!! badge slapped on it. /facepalm
Yeah, I was thinking I hope the coolness of this car is not proportional to the hotness of the model they got to stand by it...
Awww...give Tom Smykowski a break! We wouldn't want him to try and off himself (again) by taking his new Volt into the garage and letting the carbon monoxide ....wait....nevermind.
Keep up that positive attitude and the United States will be owned by other countries. Oh, you'd like that? You kids are too young to realize the ramifications of the auto industry and the American Economy. I'm not saying like it just because you have to. I'm saying don't bash it until you've tried it. But it would take an intelligent person to think that way and this site is not really that demo. You'd think it would be, but it's not.
After looking at the pictures I will say it looks better than I thought it would. But their initial marketing of it I'll admit could have been better. Just car pics would be better than inserting the Engineers/Execs in there. Also they shouldn't place the Chevy logo so prominently in the front of the grill. It really is not that attractive of a logo. IMHO. A smaller logo to the off to the side would have been "cooler" and less boisterous. It's really about what they are promising(40 miles before using a sip of gas) that this is all about. And if they deliver on that promise reliably it will change the market. To note Toyota has promised an equivalent Prius version coming out soon. I used to not care what car I bought and still like foreign car styling better. But as you get older(and lose value on your house etc...) you start to realize how the economy works. Every time you spend a dollar you're voting in the global economy.
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WOW, With such a diverse crew working on it. It will certainly fit the needs of everyone!
@ steve
that's awesome
Looks like a civic to me, only fatter and less attractive, but it suits that guy well. So that's the message GM is getting out-if you look kinda like me you should def. get this car! or better yet, if you got this car cuz you cant afford a honda or toyota, you'll slowly morph and eventually become like me, and we can take over the world matrix style, muhahahaha!
I think it should be REQUIRED in every posting of the Chevy Volt that it is mentioned that GM made an electric car called the EV1 back in 1996 in California and then killed it in 2000 and sold the battery technology to oil companies (as others have mentioned). The chevy volt is overdue and not as good as what they had over a decade ago.
Watch "Who Killed The Electric Car?" to get the full info.
GM is a horrible horrible company. F you GM. i say F you.
The headlight design looks remarkably like a Honda Civic or Accord.
On the subject of the photos, why didn't they just have a team photo with everyone standing BEHIND the car?
He is there to block the camera's view of the dent he left in the car.
fugly.
surprise surprise.
Bet the girl who designed it doesn't think so.
Here she is, I found a picture of her in one of the press shots:
http://i34.tinypic.com/551q40.png
That's an ugly car.
I am European, and think this car is only marginally better looking then Prius - which looks like it has Down Syndrome. I know you Americans will vote me down for this, but man, you guys need some talent in designing less mutt-looking cars. Seriously... there are over 140 million people living in US, why can't one of those make something which looks like a real car? Sorry for being so negative...
It would help if it didn't make economic sense to have everything conform to North American AND European Union regulations.
Why do you think every new car looks so much alike these days? There's so little you can do to make your car unique anymore when you have to give priority to stupid things like "maximum bubble-hood-distance from engine-block in order to cushion pedestrians when hit in middle of road".
However, this car is very disappointing in light of the concept everyone's so familiar with.
Does it really need to be so tall? Is it a car or an effing truck? The headlights are above the dude's waist. I think that's approximately where the roof on my car is.
140?? Thats the size of Japan. USA is over 300 million..
DISAPPOINTMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wanted the angular version :(
Exactly! They ugly'ed it up because their "oil buddies" asked them too!!!
Actually it was because the prototype version was as aerodynamic as a brick, which kinda goes against the whole 'environmentally friendly green car' thing.
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/12/12/volt-aero-and-styling-touring-the-e-flex-design-studio-and-gm-w/
It does look incredible
WATT?! OHM MY GOD YOU MUST BE KIDDING! I WAS SO AMPED FOR THIS CAR BUT THIS DESIGN IS AWFUL
This is def more mainstream. The other model was nice but i cant imagine many moms looking at it and thinking yeah thatll save the environment or my kids in a crash.
mainstream. this car isn't going to be mainstream, no matter what. it's still going to cost more than most unobtrusive moms are willing to pay. with it's fairly large price tag, this car should, among other things, stylistically distinguish itself, because if not. it's just a chevy that's not worth the 50, 40 or even 30k price tag.
the original styling was different and damn attractive and i think would have attracted more of the more "bold" businessmen/women with money. if i were my dad (even my mom too), i'd be embarrassed to drive this car as it is, and both my parents were initially really excited about the original design/prospects for this car.
Again I don't trust American made traditional cars. Why should I trust one that is being fast tracked out of the R&D department at mach 2? Yes I know a huge chunk of the company is involved in this car and frankly if this fails Chevy is pretty much screwed unless the gov drops more money to bail them out. But frankly that isn't enough. I want to see 3 years, and 50,000 miles worth of data on this car proving that its solid before I go anywhere near American made again. Simply put I've been burned too often in the past.
The car could be the sexiest thing on the planet. It could get 500mpg. It could be a geeks wet dream. And it could make women fling themselves towards the car. It means absolutely dick to me if its not reliable.
GM's automotive life and cred is being based on this car. There are literally thousands of people working on it daily to ensure its a solid launch. Yes its being moved quickly but there are two things to produce quicker results. 1. skimp on the quality or 2. Load it up with the best of the best, give it everything you have, set the budget high to higher ourside consultants....
Give it a chance
Traditional cars? In what way is this car traditional? If you don't want it, fine. But nobody cares about your car troubles.
Cool...that's one less spot on the waiting list for me.
You generalize by saying you don't trust American cars but several American brands are in the top ten in long term reliability and this is nothing new. Buick shared the number one slot last year with Lexus and even after sliding this year Buick is still in the sixth position. Also there are several foreign brands which rank below average in reliability including Scion with 243 problems per 100 vehicles, below Chevrolet. So much for Toyota perfection.
I completely agree. If Chevy or any other American company is serious about competing in ANY car segment, not just this electric/hybrid, etc. one, they need to start making enormous quality increases. Yes, cars like the Malibu are better than they used to be, but still miles behind the Accord, Sonata or other foreign car. Plus, by buying Japanese or Korean, you're supporting the American workforce more than buying a Chevy or Dodge.
" Plus, by buying Japanese or Korean, you're supporting the American workforce more than buying a Chevy or Dodge."
Utter bullshit.
I just want to follow up my comment briefly by saying that I agree that Toyota has slipped severely recently. I no longer recommend them, but companies like Honda, Hyundai, and Subaru make some of the best, most reliable, highest quality cars. Sit in a Malibu or Avenger, and then sit in an Accord or Sonata, and just by materials and fit and finish alone, you'll see my point.
Honda also slipped this year, but still highly ranked yet topped by Mercury, Cadillac, Buick and Lincoln.
@happy_penguin
Companies like Hyundai are building more plants in America while companies like Chevy are closing them down and laying off workers (even execs) in favor of cheap labor from Mexico or China. Yes, not all Chevys are made in other countries, and yes, not all foreign cars are made in America, but the quotient is quickly going to the foreign manufacturers making the most in America. Also, just because a Chevy is assembled in America doesn't mean the rest of the car was made in America. If you look at the fine print, they always say "Assembled in America of globally sourced parts". And yes, the same applies to Japanese brands, but like I said before, they're making more plants and more of an effort to employ American workers than the domestic companies.
It's not really a "new" car design. The drivetrain may be new, but the car itself is just a delta-platform (Chevy Colbalt, Saturn Astra) with some new body-panels.
Honestly, I want this car to succeed, because I believe we need plug-in hybrid technology, but, knowing GM and what happened with the whole EV-1 thing, I'm not entirely confident that it will succeed.
Ryan:
All companies use globally sourced parts. All of them. And in order for a car to be considered "domestic" in the US it must maintain a minimum of 75% domestic content. A Chevrolet HHR is made in Mexico but a Chevrolet Cobalt is made in Ohio. Many Hondas and Toyotas are made in the US but the Prius is made in Japan. If you care about supporting US made goods you have to check case by case. See if that Honda made in Ohio has enough content to be considered domestic. I bet it doesn't.
happy_penguin:
I understand that, and I said that all companies use globally sourced parts in one of my posts, but that still doesn't change the fact that these cars being made by domestic companies are slapped together without a care for the final product. I read an article on CNN a while ago, showing a behind the scenes look from an employee who had worked at a foreign car plant and a domestic one (names weren't given). He explained how the quality checks at the domestic plants were few and far between, and only checked at the end of the manufacturing of the item, however in the foreign one, they did checks at every little step in between. Also, back to the original idea, when the Aveo came out, Chevy ads trumpeted how it was an "American Revolution", just like the rest of their cars. How is a car an American Revolution, when it was designed and built in Korea by a Korean company (Daewoo)? And still, Chevy (and others) is closing American plants while foreign companies are making an effort to build more. Subaru has been building cars in Indiana for a long time, and they're excellent, so this is not a problem with the American workforce; the blame lies with the company. As far as I'm concerned, the only domestic company who's actually trying and building the best American cars is Ford. Their European models are just as good as Japanese and other brands, and they're slowly bringing them in. To that, good job Ford.
And back to the misconceptions....
Ryan, look here:
http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2007130
And look here:
http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2008115
There are plenty of American made vehicles which rank among the top right with and sometimes surpassing Toyota and Honda. Yes I know that Pontiac, Dodge, Chevrolet and many other American brands are below average, but so are Nissan, Subaru, Scion and many other Japanese and European brands. People need to stop generalizing with these ideas which have no basis in fact.
" He explained how the quality checks at the domestic plants were few and far between, and only checked at the end of the manufacturing of the item, however in the foreign one, they did checks at every little step in between."
And this is also not true. I know because I work in an American plant and I know how hard those people work and I know how often they do quality checks. It's done at all steps of the production process.
happy_penguin:
Let's just agree to disagree. We each have our own opinions about this whole thing, and let's just leave it at that. All I will say, in conclusion, is that I have based my opinions on my personal experience, and what I have seen. But, you and everyone else are certainly entitled to their opinion.
I'm in complete agreement. GM has a LOT to make up for. They've been warned time and again, and they've promised time and again, and disappointed time and again. In the 2007 Consumer Report year end listed 15 of the 22 worst cars were made by GM (Ford, it should be noted, did comparatively well, scoring a few cars in the 22 Best Cars list (in terms of consumer satisfaction) - a big turn around). For years the only American cars that did well were those cars with Japanese or Korean drive trains. Pictures of dinosaurs in suits posing over a conservatively styled hybrid they rushed out the door years after the Japanese had them on the market - well, it doesn't fill me with confidence.
I forgot my points - I think we can expect similar quality to the Chevy Cobalt since the Volt is essentially a Cobalt with new sheetmetal and a new engine.
"Ryan @ Sep 8th 2008 3:49PM
happy_penguin:
Let's just agree to disagree. We each have our own opinions about this whole thing, and let's just leave it at that. All I will say, in conclusion, is that I have based my opinions on my personal experience, and what I have seen. But, you and everyone else are certainly entitled to their opinion."
I agree in part. If you want to say Chevys are unreliable you can back it up with the ratings. But you also have to admit that Scion is unreliable because Scion ranks below Chevrolet. If you want to say that American cars are unreliable, you are wrong because not all of them are. If you want to say American cars are ugly, yes now you are talking about opinion. I happen to think the ugliest car on the road is the Japanese made Prius.
Don't confuse our opposing opinions with the facts.
happy_penguin:
I don't like Toyota or Scion, and agree that they are cheaply made and can be unreliable, and I'll agree the Prius is ugly and pointless. We both have opposing facts/opinions and there really isn't a right or wrong answer. There will always be this division, and I'm fine with that.
" We both have opposing facts/opinions and there really isn't a right or wrong answer."
But there are the JD Power Vehicle Dependability studies. Please check them as I posted above.
But, there are also studies by companies like Consumer Reports and other companies that support what I say. Like I said before, there's no point in going on about this, as it will continue to go back and forth forever. There's no right or wrong answer, and that's it.
What's wrong with American cars? American quality is among the best in the world (excepting Chrysler, but they had Daimler messing them up for a long time), and Ford out-ranks Toyota. This has been the case for some time now, and it is only getting better. To bash on American cars over quality shows you don't know what you're talking about.
you don't trust american cars?
i trust consumer reports.
stuff like the vw's have had horrible reliability recently
i dont like the grill. maybe its the mockup, or perhaps its more aerodynamic and is a false grill, i dunno whats going on there.
To those touting JD power rankings etc for car reliability. I was wondering, do those rankings take into account the demographics of the people driving those cars? Buicks, Linconls, etc are probably driven more by blue hairs and significantly more conservative people who are going to drive their cars much slower and less recklessly than someone who buys a Scion. The average Scion buyer is probably under 25 and dogs the crap out of it. And Toyota may have taken a hit recently in the rankings, but they have also sold significantly more cars than any of the American manufacturers, so maybe it is a question of more cars total means more issues/recalls? I would like to see it percentage based. Or maybe it is already, I have to get ready for work so I don't have time to do the research.
"J @ Sep 8th 2008 5:14PM
What's wrong with American cars? American quality is among the best in the world (excepting Chrysler, but they had Daimler messing them up for a long time), and Ford out-ranks Toyota. This has been the case for some time now, and it is only getting better. To bash on American cars over quality shows you don't know what you're talking about."
First, thanks for showing some support for American domestic autos. But check JD Power ratings. Ford brand does not out rank Toyota. Mercury (a Ford Corporation brand) and Cadillac (a General Motors brand) out rank Toyota this year in the long term dependability study. Last year Buick (another General Motors brand), Cadillac and Mercury all out ranked Toyota. But Lexus (a Toyota corporation brand) has a firm grip on the first place rank which it shared with Buick last year. Lexus made an amazing improvement from 145 problems per 100 vehicles to an incredibly low 120. Buick dropped from 145 problems per 100 vehicles to 163 which is still very good. At the same time, Scion which is anther Toyota brand ranked below average and this year took a massive slide to the 28th position well below average and among the worst quality as a brand. It looks to me as though Toyota corporation is making many of the same mistakes as General Motors by concentrating their quality efforts on their premium brands while neglecting their entry level brands. That is the big thing that both Ford and General Motors need to change. Chrysler seems to need serious work across the board. An interesting note: Honda as a brand slid from fifth position last year to ninth this year. Am I saying that Honda's quality is bad? Absolutely not. The quality of automobiles as an entire industry is excellent compared to 20+ years ago. I would not be afraid of even low ranked Chrysler if they had the product I really wanted.
Let's promote American vehicles but let's also keep the data factual.
"Dave @ Sep 8th 2008 6:41PM
To those touting JD power rankings etc for car reliability. I was wondering, do those rankings take into account the demographics of the people driving those cars? Buicks, Linconls, etc are probably driven more by blue hairs and significantly more conservative people who are going to drive their cars much slower and less recklessly than someone who buys a Scion. The average Scion buyer is probably under 25 and dogs the crap out of it. And Toyota may have taken a hit recently in the rankings, but they have also sold significantly more cars than any of the American manufacturers, so maybe it is a question of more cars total means more issues/recalls? I would like to see it percentage based. Or maybe it is already, I have to get ready for work so I don't have time to do the research."
Then you have to apply the same logic to Lexus and Chevrolet. Young people buy cheap cars. Older people buy more expensive cars. Another thing, Toyota has not sold significantly more cars than General Motors. Check the sales numbers.
Also, Toyota is far from perfect:
http://www.lemonlawclaims.com/toyota_avalon__problems_lemon.htm
Prius problems are numerous:
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/toyota_prius.html
And Toyota trucks are seriously defective:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=toyota+tundra+recall&btnG=Search
How about some pictures WITHOUT the G@Y Execs posing all over it?
yeah what's up with that? Probably fulfilling childhood fantasies of being a model.
well it aint no concept but nothing some rims and a drop wont cure.
Shoulda stuck with the original version instead of the stupid I wanna be a prius version
Looks like a Prius.
They should have kept the sporty angular look.
Oh well, at least its a step in the right direction.
Check that. It looks like the OLD Prius. This looks nothing like the 2004+ Prius.
The problem was that the original look was not very good aerodynamically. It would have impacted battery/fuel economy drastically, and when you get right down to it...that's one of the biggest things going for the volt.
I see alot of people posting stuff along these lines. Maybe they should make a sporty exotic looking version with worse economy so that people who just want to create the image of caring about the environment and economy (and getting away from foreign oil...) can feel better about themselves.
@Enigma
My guess is that sports cars are more aerodymanic than something like this. Giving it a little design appeal will go a long way in helping sales. They've basically castrated the design of this thing and jacked up the price. this thing is going to be a major fail for a few years. the tech is great though.
It looks nothing like a Prius. First of all it doesn't have that ugly fat ass like a Prius second, it looks like it's part of the Chevrolet family of cars, not Toyota.
@najakwa
Correct, to a point though. Sports cars aren't made for practicality though, and this one is. They are made to be aerodynamic in many ways...sitting very low to the ground, for example. Not alot of people drive their corvette to work in a bad snowstorm though. They are also made to create a ton of downforce at high speeds, which actually isn't going to help economy any. It will keep you alive when you are cornering at high speeds though.
Strangely enough, the optimal shape for aerodynamics is almost like a teardrop shape...it gets narrow in the back. The EV1 had a shape somewhat like that, if I remember correctly.
I'm just annoyed with all of the armchair engineers in these threads. Most of these guys never had a course in aerodynamics, but you'd better believe that they've got strong opinions on the subject.
yup. that is definitely ugly. concepts are always so spot on gorgeous, then once the real thing comes out it looks like a prius....
I agree this car is not as good looking as the concept, I am disappointed with that because I can't stand blob cars, but from a fuid dynamics standpoint every bit of drag reduced can save a lot in efficiency.
And SteveJ this car is not directly powered by the IC engine. It is an electric car that uses the IC engine to charge the batteries. The electric motors will directly drive the vehicle. This will be the first production hybrid of this type. With the plug in capability it can go 40 miles on pure electric power alone, at highway speed. This means that if you drive under 40 miles between charging you will not use any gas. The drivetrain will still also charge the batteries through braking like all current hybrids do. And because the engine only needs to charge the batteries, they can size the IC engine and run it at a constant speed maximizing efficiency.
Currently, GM and the EPA are arguing over the way to rate the fuel mileage because if the car is tested in the same manner of all other vehicles it would get 100+ MPG on the rating, and the EPA does not want to run the car the same way as all other vehicles , instead it wanted to get the ratings run with the engine on enough to keep the batteries nearly fully charged a majority of the time.
They plan to sell the five seater for around $40,000.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/08/volts-epa-rating-could-be-cut-by-new-standards/
$40,000? Are you serious?
Several websites have said the Volt is built on GM's Delta Platform, the same as the $15,000 Chevy Cobalt. The chassis, suspension, etc, should all be from the Cobalt. $40,000 for what is essentially an electric version of the $15,000 Cobalt! Disgraceful!
Except for the Camaro, it's still scrumptious although the interior took the expected brunt of the cheapness.
Will this car be an "AMERICAN REVOLUTION"? I doubt it. GM is not even close to the cutting edge tecnology that the germans and japanese developed. This car should be on the streets by the end of this year, after that it will be like all other american cars... Obsolete.
When car around the Gobe have been running on two and like on Brazil on three fuels since the 70's, only in the last 10 years americans started to realize that uncle Sam is not that agile senior anymore, but a old, lazy, fat, oil drinker and corrupt fellow that only cares about his deep pockets.
The american industry in general needs to start making massive investments in technology to catch up with the "others", including the koreans that are killing us with those cars that last the same as ours but for a fraction of the cost...
The Volt (and plug-in Prius) are good things, absolutely, but what we need are full electric vehicles. I really don't want to spend money on another gas/diesel using car, hybrid or not, plug-in or not, for me. Yes, we need one car that can run on fuel (at least until we get plug-in stations), but my car doesn't need to go 300 miles. In order to get me to work and back, or to the train and back, and for driving to the store and other local errands, etc, I don't need 300 miles of range. 80 miles would be more then enough for me.
EVs have so many benefits compared to fossil fuel burning cars. Most important is that they are inherently far more reliable due to very few and much simpler moving parts. Also: no oil changes; no spark plugs; no tune ups; no trips to the gas station (every morning the "tank is full"), no timing belts; no emissions control systems; no mufflers; almost no maintenance at all. Unfortunately for us, the manufactures don't like EVs for that very reason: they make huge amounts of money from parts and maintenance for unreliable fossil-fuel burning cars and they don't want to give it up.
So, yeah, let's celebrate the plug-in hybrid, but don't get carried away. We can get really excited when GM, or some other major manufacturer, brings an EV to market. They can do it now. In fact, they did it in 1996, until they crushed it out of existence.
Don't be an idiot. The Volt IS a pure electric vehicle. It just has a gas powered generator on board to top the batteries off.
Nobody wants a pure electric vehicle. Nobody wants to worry about whether they can make that side trip to the grocery store on the way home from work and risk getting stranded when the batteries die. Nobody wants a vehicle that is only useful in town. When I say "Nobody", I mean "Nowhere near enough people to make producing such a vehicle financially viable." We could make them for you and the ten thousand others who might want one, but you wouldn't want to pay the cost of such low production numbers.
The series-hybrid is a brilliant idea. It's a pure EV with an on-board charger. Use it in town, never buy gas. Drive all over town on a busy Saturday, no stopping to charge, just burn a little fuel. Want to take a family vacation? No problem, just get in and go.
All that being said: 40 miles per charge, $40k, and they completely fucking ruined it. The car as it sits is fugly. Those are all deal killers to me. I was going to live with the low range and high price for the sports coupe because the looks made up for those shortcomings, but fuck this wanna-be Prius. If I wanted a Prius I'd buy one for half the price.
I don't get how GM could make a 100 mile per charge EV in the nineties and here, ten years later, they can barely squeeze 40 miles out of one? What the hell is up with that? Also, I don't get the gas engine. I have a 15kw diesel genset that sips less than half a gallon per hour. Diesel generators are extremely efficient. Why use gas?
The automakers are playing games with us. I'm not parting with my money on this one.
Edit, I meant to say, "Nobody wants your version of a pure electric vehicle." That is, one without an on-board charging system. If we could recharge these in 5 minutes at a "gas" station after 100+ miles, sure, but that isn't the case.
Wow... take a CIVIC and slap an ugly sticker on it (chevy logo)
no kidding. looks just like the current gen civic
The car looks decent but the Chevy logo just looks dumb on it. Chevy needs to work on the logo. It is horrendous.
great 'stache
That is one faBUlous Mario 'stache isn't it? ;)
I like dis her caar... and DA Bears!!!
plug in cars... living in an apartment in NYC makes this car an impossible buy for me. my options are to tap into a street light or run a 200 ft extention cord out of my window. Plug in cars are IMPRACTICAL
So.....what.......maybe Mag-Lev or something to accommodate the poor apartment dwellers. Mmmmmm........gigajoule magnetic fields running beneath our feet.........oh wait.
Maybe for you....and your roach motel
You live in NYC.....Why would you even own a car?
Are you sure you live in NYC? people in NYC use mass transit!
just for the rest of the country, NYC is not only manhatten. and mass transit sucks balls. and the rent in my "roach motel" is probably more then most mortgages in the rest of the country
Are these people being laid off or something??
Refer to:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/09/compusa-employees-adopt-subtle-dignified-method-of-saying-farew/
Hello FUGLY
i liked the original concept design.
THIS LOOKS LIKE SHIT!!!!
kinda stole the front end from acura tsx no?
Powerplants are a hell of a lot more efficient than car-sized internal combustion engines. That and most have big honking scrubbers to clean up the exhaust. I used to live down the road from a coal burning power plant that installed a scrubber mid-90s. Only 99.999% water vapor comes out the smokestack. The rest is converted to fly-ash and gypsum which go to deicing roads and making drywall. Also consider that there are cleaner ways to generate electricity (hydro, sun, nuclear, tidal, geothermal) that cannot be scaled down to consumer size.
This has fixed a great deal.