Sony makes the JS1 and sister laptop NS1 official
By Joshua Topolsky 
posted October 2nd 2008 8:46AM
posted October 2nd 2008 8:46AM
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ummm... it's 2008... what's up with the wired mouse and keyboard?
True, but the rest is pretty nice.
Damn! you beat me to it. I was about to say the same thing.. rank up 4 u sir...
yeah it's 2008, I guess you're better off with a mouse and keyboard from the mid eighties.
Personally, I can't stand Bluetooth on things like controllers and computer mice. If I didn't have a second controller for my PS3, I'd go absolutely spare sometimes. They constantly run out of battery! And mice get progressively worse as the battery weakens. No dice on wireless for me.
What I'm more suprised at is that such a style-centric company as Sony would release what looks like a cheap rip-off of the iMac. It's just... weak.
I agree with Magnulus. I don't think wireless is by any means required, especially for keyboards. Nothing like running out of juice mid e-mail. Wireless mouse is nice, but for a budget system, i don't think anybody's going to complain too much.
Not only a rip-off of you know what, you're stuck with a certian OS as well.
And in adition: A FRIGGING CADDY? A FRIGGING VERTICAL DVD-DRIVE WITH CADDY?
This alone is such a big design flaw. I couldn't buy it. I would be angered every day.
Mmh, I've seen that keyboard somewhere before... And that DVD slot loading on the edge of the screen too.
Could have just posted "first". Equally annoying, but not in a douchebag fanboy sort of way.
you saw it on x505 right
oh and this is his first time
to post on engadget, hes a total apple fanboy
Yeah, Sony should be ashamed for copying their own keyboard design time after time.
As for the DVD drive, where the hell else would you put it? It's a one-piece computer.
It makes me sad that you can only downrank a comment once.
Can someone tell me why this guy is high-ranked??? -_-" Just read what jorvay said.
Love the keyboard. I bet Apple wish they'd designed something like that.
You do know Apple did not originate that design?
Yes.
Liar, you didn't know!
That's an original keyboard. It looks NOTHING like the keyboard I am typing on now. Nothing like it at all.
It's not the keyboard that gets me, it's the stand. It brings Mac Pros to mind IMO.
@ Decoy
I kindof see what you mean, but if you look at some of the Sony TVs and other products from both their electronics and computers divisions, you start to notice some consistent design traits. This machine seems to fit into those pretty well.
This computer is infected with BD. Make sure to wear protection while taking advantage of its interface.
Creativity, Like.No.Other.
LOL i created the original image of your avatar quite a long time ago. Shame on you for adding the apple in the center of it!
LOL really ? GJ
Nah I'm just enjoying my MBP and iPhone that's why I put the apple logo in that avatar :D
Mmm, VAIO. Man that laptop looks good.
When I first saw the image I thought --- NEW iMAC! --- nope, Sony. Great looking computer though. Not a fan of the tray loading disc drives. Shatter dreams of XBOX, 360, and PS2 drives that no longer loaded fill my head.
Blu-ray onboard?!? NICE!
Wired mouse and keyboard? Standard fare. Most educational institutions require them. A lot easier to not lose.
very nice design, i like the deskop one. the notebook look quite familiar to the apple powerbook titanium from early 2002 i think ( no i'm not a fanboy my classmate is using it that's why i'm mentioning it)!
i guess these types of keyboards will become more common, it's a nice thing and i think a good development since the old keyboards are looking kind a chubby and do not match to the new sleak designs... and i guess we can say getting "inspiration" from competitors is a good thing if a design works out, by that we all benefit :)
A lackluster package from a premium (?) brand.
A 1920×1080 screen to go with a slot in BR-drive and it would a entertainment system for the student no room for a big screen TV. If it is priced like a Vaio I'm not interested.
1280x800 with a blueray drive? What's the point?
I'm sure they could have squeezed a little more resolution in there! Plus led backlighting would be welcomed.
Nice, but it still doesnt compete with an iMac.
Not many people are going to go without a graphics card, let alone the anti-customizability factor just for the design....
Sony should be ashamed of themselves for including a wired keyboard and mouse, the iMac has wired as well...but i wouldnt expect a premium company like SOny to do it too.
Sorry that was meant to be wireless* and the anti customizability relates to having just one (crappy) graphics card and the unlikely possibility to be as customizable as the iMac with 20 and 24" displays, hard drives CPU's etc etc.
Its a good first try by Sony. THe design has a little way to go yet but its pretty good.
Did you soften your stance once you realized you were being low-ranked?! There's a 28 minute difference between the two posts!
kinda reminds me of mac pro + imac
very attractive all-in-1 btw
Interesting to see that it's Sony who decide to take the plunge and challenge Apple's iMac. Assuming they can tender for the gap in that market (those without $1,000s to spare) they should really pull it off.
iMacs are $1100 as it is for a nice 20".
Sony would dent this if they can offer these systems for around $500. Any more than that, and I'd rather just go with an iMac.
"Interesting to see that it's Sony"
I think its quite apt. They both target the premium market.
That thing is beautiful.. well.. The all-in-one anyway. The laptop
just looks like, well.. A laptop.
There's always been one thing I think Apple have, and that's good
looking hardware (I'm not saying I think this looks like an Apple
computer). As we can see though, this is becoming less and less true
with the things companies are bringing out recently.
wow, crybaby central, the wired keyboard and mouse are there because sony is pushing for the schools and they all pretty much frown on wireless as someone else already said. as for looking like an iMac and all that crap, who cares, if it works it works, personally i could care less what it looks like, i am worried about performance, which admittedly the desktop is lacking if you ask me. however a laptop with 4GB RAM and blu-ray built in, not bad if you ask me. oh and Mac fans ...... sucks to be your stock right now. LOL.
I like the fact that the new notebook is reported as being affordably-priced... and then at the end "No word on price or release date for the two models"
although i love this kind of keyboard, i could never use this one: the ENTER key is being flanked on the right by a row of buttons, i'm sure i would press some other button all the time.
1920x1080 or 1200 is ridiculous on a 20.1" screen just for the sake of blu-ray. If you have a special application that requires higher resolution then your needs are somewhat unique and not the needs of the common man. Most people, at proper viewing distance, can't see the difference between 1080 and 720 on a 50" tv, so why in the hell would they need to pay for more resolution on a 20.1" screen.
I think Sony did a great job on the desktop. It looks reminiscent of their older LCD monitors.
Rip off Apple much, Sony?
and apple copying Sony's keyboard
http://regmedia.co.uk/2004/06/11/vaio_1.jpg
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It's interesting that I've read a few news reports around the Web stating that Sony has copied the Apple MacBook when it comes to the keyboard design of the TZ1. Unfortunately for all the Apple fans out there, this is simply not true. In fact, Sony implemented this type of separated-button style keyboard in the groundbreaking VAIO X505VP back in 2004.
Link:
http://regmedia.co.uk/2004/06/11/vaio_1.jpg
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i want that keybord! finally a apple like keybord for windows.
Man, Apple fans are vicious.
This is superior to iMac design purely for the fact it doesn't have that hideous chin.
If all-in-ones are your thing and you don't want a Mac(shocking, but it happens), this is a great choice.
Wow, no word on pricing or date? I guess I could offer my services as an investigative reporter to Engadget (it seems they could use them).
Laptop has already been shipping for a few days and starts at $799. It's been on Sony's site for a few days already, but it's sold out. If you live near Fry's you can pick one up there (saw them last Friday). Circuit City might have them by now too.
Desktop ships on 10/07 and starts at $1099. Has been on Sony's site for a few weeks, it went up just a few days after CEDIA.
Not upgradeable. Too expensive. A total waste.
Wait, this isn't from Apple? I WANT!
/Faux Apple hater diatribe
P.S. Holding that CD tray steady while you try to clip the disc on the spindle will be lots of fun. Every car stereo has a slot-loading disc player. Why is Apple the only computer manufacturer who dares dump the ridiculous tray?
I wondered that too. Plextor and Pioneer made slot-load computer drives... but people said they were unreliable.
I know people with cars from a decade ago who still use factory slot-load CD players in their cars.
I wish hardware companies would figure it out!