Windows 7 details galore: interface tweaks, netbook builds, Media Center enhancements
Microsoft's Windows 7 announcement earlier today was followed up by an extensive demo of the new features during the PDC keynote, and since then even more info about the new OS has flooded out, so we thought we'd try to wrap up some of the more important bits here for you. Microsoft seems to have done an impressive job at this early pre-beta stage, folding in next-gen interface ideas like multitouch into the same OS that apparently runs fine on a 1GHz netbook with 1GB of RAM, but we'll see how development goes -- there's still a ways to go. Some notes:
Read - Keynote videos on the PDC site
Read - Technologizer Windows 7 hands-on
Read - Ars Technica Windows 7 interface walkthrough
Read - Laptop Windows 7 hands-on
Read - Windows 7 Media Center revealed
- Obviously, the big news is the new taskbar, which forgoes text for icons and has new "jump lists" of app controls and options you can access with a right-click. You can select playlists in Media Player, for example. Super cool: when you scrub over the icons, all the other app windows go transparent so you can "peek" at the windows you're pointing at.
- Gadgets now appear on the desktop -- the sidebar has been killed. That makes more sense for all those laptop owners out there with limited screen space, and you can still see gadgets anytime by peeking at the desktop, rendering all other windows transparent.
- Window resizing and management now happens semi-automatically: dragging a window to the top of the screen maximizes it, pulling it down restores; dragging a window to the edges auto-resizes it to 50% for quick tiling. Nifty.
- The system tray now only displays what you explicitly say it should -- everything else is hidden, and the controls have been streamlined.
- User Account Control settings are now much more fine-grained -- you can set them by app and by level of access.
- They demoed multitouch features on an HP TouchSmart PC -- it was pretty cool, although the usual nagging "what is this good for / that'll get old fast" concerns weren't really addressed. The Start menu gets 25 percent bigger when using touch to make it easier to handle, and apps will all get scroll support automatically. There's also a giant on-screen predictive keyboard. Again -- could be amazing, but we won't know until it's out in the wild.
- We've always known Microsoft intends Windows 7 to run on netbooks, and we got a small taste during the PDC keynote: Windows SVP Steve Sinofsky held up his "personal" laptop running Windows 7, an unnamed 1GHz netbook with 1GB of RAM that looked a lot like an Eee PC, and said that it still had about half its memory free after boot. (We're guessing it was running a VIA Nano, given the announcement this morning and since most Atoms run at 1.6GHz.)
- At the other end of the scale, Windows 7 supports machines with up to 256 CPUs.
- Multiple-monitor management is much-improved, as is setting up projectors -- it's a hotkey away. Remote Desktop now works with multiple monitors as well.
- Media Center has been tweaked as well -- it looks a lot more like the Zune interface. There's also a new Mini Guide when watching video, and a new Music Wall album artwork screensaver that kicks in when you're playing music.
- Devs got a pre-beta today; a "pretty good" feature complete beta is due early next year. No word at all on when it'll be released to market apart from that "three years from Vista" date we've known forever.
Read - Keynote videos on the PDC site
Read - Technologizer Windows 7 hands-on
Read - Ars Technica Windows 7 interface walkthrough
Read - Laptop Windows 7 hands-on
Read - Windows 7 Media Center revealed























Which window has focus? It seems they're trying to confuse me and then blind me. Microsoft is a Mexican hooker...
To be honest I have had very little to complain about when it comes to Vista and I am a sys admin. But millions of users cannot be wrong... if it sucks it sucks. But it blows my mind that "the big news" on the OS to bail out the Vista fiasco is the taskbar...
I would be overjoyed to hear that the "big news" was a new base code, doing away with the registry and actually improving on issues that have been issues since NT. But yet again the oooh ahhh's take center stage. Here's to another 10 years of SoS computing environments.
inb4 HUGE flaming/low ranking:
Looks to me an awful lot like NeXT.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NeXTSTEP_desktop.jpg)
That screenshot is torture for the eyes.
Transparency can be cool and even helpful to create a nice inteface but that is just wrong.
Making every single window transparent just confuses the eye and that blurry effect kills it completely.
I know that's not new, but that's the reason I hate looking at a Vista screen. At least Vista's task bar wasn't transparent.
Nice job screwing that up, too.
WOW this looks like something i've seen before
that one longhorn thing
that kind of rocked
but they killed off
and made vista?
lolz
Is it just me, or does this look like a shinier bluer KDE taskbar?
I for one am glad that MS is doing more for design. Having a good looking os enviroment like this, is just much more encouraging than the older Windows versions. I cant wait to see this in action :-)
I use XP right now, I agree, Vistas are slower. Is there a way to have Vista's UI [u][b]ONLY[/b][/u] on an XP? :P
EPIC FAIL
oh it looks like 10.4 tiger
You're post is going to be barried in a few minutes...these PC Fanboys can't handle the truth.
**A message to all PC Fanboys - Apple is not your problem...Google is! they are going to destroy you.
Have fun with this W7 patch:)
( Think of Apple every time you see a Ferrari)
Downloaded and tried the new IE8 and it sucks!! It was great that you could go "in-private",but the favorites toolbar kept shrinking to the point that I uninstalled it. Everyone that I know says Vista sucks also;that is why most pc's are offering XP downgrades for free. Not everyone is Rockefeller where we can buy a pc every time a OS by Microsoft is introduced. Older printers and other devices are NOT COMPATIBLE WITH VISTA! And security,which they hyped to high heaven,isn't any better than XP;therefore why buy a Vista pc? Still need antivirus and malware software.
For all those who are unhappy about grouping windows under program icons in the taskbar, I actually welcome it and hope they do more of it...like when ALT+TAB-ing, for example. I recently bought a MacBook as a second computer, and although some things were more annoying to switch to than others, the one thing I really like is their cmd+tab system...when you cmd+tab, you switch PROGRAMS, not windows, then you cmd+~ to switch windows within that program. It sounds like more keystrokes at first, but when I think back to all the times I found myself doing "alt+tab...damn...alt+tab back, alt+tab alt+tab...damn...alt+tab back, alt+tab alt+tab alt+tab...damn..." to try to find the right window, compressing your windows by program actually starts to make a lot more sense.
Also, I've had to teach NUMEROUS (like, way more than 5 people) who were lifelong Windows users about the EXISTENCE of alt+tab...so keep in mind that the average user is like...dumb. So, many people will probably welcome the condensed menu.
It looks pretty nice, I hope it runs well. I want it to be able to run quick and snappy even after two years. I notice that with windows, no matter how good your hardware is, its performance seems to degenerate over time.
Looks like KDE.
They should just redesign the whole windows to something more creative like changing the Start button to something simillar to the dock with Osx. They should also try to filter the start programs like making better divisions for documments and programs like ubuntu. That way the interface will be easier to use.
I do like this. It looks modern enough and different without it being too different. Honestly, I'm fine with Vista graphically, but what I'm concerned with is making sure the underlying stability and architecture of the OS is done properly, like XP. Vista isn't that bad anymore, but it still could be better. I'm definitely looking forward to this.
I really hope they implement FolderSize, where you can see, size of folders in columns and also how many files and subfolders are there.
Wow, I'm quite excited. I hope they keep all the promised features. But I think Microsoft will actually get it right this time; they know how bad Vista's name is (whether it's justified or not) and need to step it up this time. (Posted on my MacBook Pro).
There is now an additions to the old phrase about a few things we can always rely on in our lifetime.
Death
Taxes
MS "me too" copying Apple
As I have said before. Windows 7 will go fast track when Mac OSX 10.6 is released. Six or so months to finalized the code from all the pre-copying of Mac OSX feature set.
Here, let me add to that.
iPods breaking left and right.
iTunes being an absolutely horrid media center.
Apple computers being overpriced.
Macs being under equipped.
OS X being pretty much unsupported by the software world.
Apple getting their asses saved by Microsoft.
Just a few items...
Oh, and,
Jubei dreaming he could get done in the ass by Steve Jobs.
I know Windows 7 is supposed to be "Vista but better", but I'm actually surprised at how little has changed from Vista. It's mostly tiny interface tweaks, nothing too extrodinary from the description.
I want to know more about the multi-touch interface, though.
Oh look.
More bloatware from Redmond.(all those *features* on an OS that'll run on 1GHz x 1Gb, just how much disk space will this puppy need?)
More *features* that'll never, ever be used.(all that sh*te on the desktop)
Lessons learned from Vista = 0 (apparently)
Oh goody, pissed off the windoze fanbois!
I'm not pissed. I'm actually pleased to know that your needs represent every user in the whole world.
Well, everyone bar yours (and all the other BillWare fanbois), apparently. But, DILLIGAF, since I'll pay as little attention to your opinions as Microsoft will...
Looks like MS is doing something good and right with this...
but I've been dissapointed with Vista (not so with Win2k & XP), so I'll wait till it comes out to see what they have to cut...
but I love that they're thinking a bit out of the box, thinking about making a lean & fast OS etc.
So will it have DirecTV's PC tuner (HDPC-20) support?
Ruben @ Oct 28th 2008 2:08PM
You hover over, and a pop up shows up showing you all the open word docs.
It seems very intuitive.
>>> It's a waste of time. No sense stuff.
I think it's a little to early to say things like "thank you, Microsoft" and the like. Who knows how the very last version will look?
Personally, I would prefer the start menu to have the option to look like the "classic" view in XP.
I hope they don't get lost in highlighting the touch screen capabilities of the OS and disregard more basic features. After all, you'll need special hardware in order to make use of it and the majority of users wouldn't need that anyway.
On a side note, wouldn't using a touch screen instead of a mouse/keyboard be much more tiring and slow? After all, it's not a phone but a whole monitor. I don't know if that's the case but that's what I'm guessing at least.
Anyway, just making the OS snappier would be a huge upgrade.
I learned my lesson with Vista, I will not buy Windows 7 until the first service pack comes out. My Inspiron 530s should hold out until then.
Tweaks you got to be kidding me. Windows 7 still locks down the UI, no moving of tool bars. Microsoft considers customization hey you can change color. Just like the betas of Vista its still the same old Microsoft, They dictate to you how Windows will look. Gone are the days of choice, Windows 7 is Vista, Not Windows period, With previous versions of Windows you had a choice, you were not confined inside walls. Windows 7 is, "Life WITH Walls" The PR BS that Microsoft is trying to spin is just that BS.
hi atm i am using windows 7 version and running vista on my second hard drive.. and although its not finished, i ran vista on the desktop with only task manager open... and some high resource i candy off it was idling at just under 1.00Gb or RAM then i go to windows 7 with all standard eye candy on and it idles at 700MB or RAM.... both vista and 7 were running at a clean install stage.. with only messenger, Firefox installed.. even in early stages windows 7 is a lot better in performance.
BTW... my computer is running
P4 Dual Core 2.5Ghz processor
2Gb of RAM
512MB Navdia 9600GT
160Gb HDD in 2 partitions
Nix.... Nuff said when it comes to speed, power, flexibility.
I don't care if you flame me saying its not as easy as windows because if you really think that then you haven't given it a fair try like you did your beloved windows... my grandma can and does use it.
hmmm.... I wonder where the idea of 'multi-touch' came from.......
impressive how it's absolutely looking like Mac OSX Leopard. Is fine that they have decided to clone OSX layout, starting from vista, i found it very usable!