Samsung's NC20 netbook: the predictable successor to the NC10
By Darren Murph 
posted Dec 21st 2008 6:02PM
posted Dec 21st 2008 6:02PM
[Thanks, Faber]
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new rule, all netbooks can only be up to 10.2 inches for screen size.
I would like to second that motion.
but engadget tells me this posting is a privelage, so
If engadget feels like letting me
If they've got the notion
May i second that motion.
Help, I'm supposed to be writing a paper!
I'm so screwed.
@windzilla
google
write or die
and use that when you write a paper
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I think that Engadget is operating on the the assumption that netbooks are pretty much only good for, well surfing the net. Judging by this processor, I think that this would fall under the category of a netbook. Sure you can maybe hold some music and videos, but you aren't going to be running much else on it.
Take scissors, cut the internet cable.
Or if you are on Wi-fi, smash your laptop.
Why are people so concerned about a tag like "Netbook"? If you'd rather call this a "fairly cheap subnotebook with comparably little processing power, no optical drive but likely good battery life", well, do so for all I care.
I'd rather see Engadget continue to call these things netbooks, even though they have bigger screens than most other devices in that category...
I second that, they better not start calling my MACBOOK a netbook.
"but you aren't going to be running much else on it."
Can you name me more the average user is gonna do on a PC then?
@ patrik
iTunes + Firefox (I don't think I can run it on a netbook and still multitask, especially with HD vids) or any other combo of quite resource-intensive apps.
how is the power consumption for via nano? I heard the performance is not bad.
and $400
The original page mentions a price of 450€, which isn't that high at all, assuming that includes taxes. My Eee 1000H cost 430€ 3 months ago as well, just as an indicator.
The NC10 is $500. I really doubt this will be $400. Maybe $600.
I agree with roy. 12'' is supposed to be ultraportable, not a netbook. And not to knock Via, but why change now since nvidia is making a badass chipset for the atom?
Is that really a successor? Seems more like something they would sell alongside, since 12" kinda goes beyond the netbook range.
@Roy
Tell that to avid Apple Macbook Air fans, and can you also add a minimum price rabge to your categorization of netbooks while you are at it?
...You know there's a reply button?
Macbook air is a netbook? When did that happen? I thought rumors were of a supposed mac netbook coming. not that one was already out? Maybe i was misinformed? I mean it has an intel core 2 duo, and a 13.3 inch screen? I believe its in the category of sub-notebook. Where i think this one should also be.
The point of my first post is i dont really see this as a netbook. Its more of a depression ready notebook. I mean its cheap enough to still afford and will work for most of what of the world has to do at there jobs. Cept for us people reading engadget, on our dual 23 inch ACD's on our 8 core bohemoths, running crysis on the second screen just so our graphics cards stay warm.
@Roy
'running crysis on the second screen just so our graphics cards stay warm.'
that made me LOL
WHEN will the glossy black fiasco end?
Agreed, matte surfaces PLEASE!!! The only thing on a notebook that should be glossy is the screen, and even then, give us matte options on that as well.
+1000
So tired of it. fingerprints on every device i own. plus it just looks tacky, fake "blingy". was able to find a nice matte black battery cover for my HTC Fuze from the Euro version Touch Pro. Made me like the phone 10 times more.
@myself
Btw, first mention of an Apple product in this topic for today!
Cut that price in half, and you got yourself a market...
....actually then you'd have a huge bottomless pit that Samsung would be throwing their money into...
Wow, looks nice and thin. Finally something without the typical Atom+1GB RAM+160GB HDD spec list too. Looking forward to this.
I love my Eee 1000H, but at times I'd love to have something slightly bigger, for the simple reason that a 10" netbook is kinda awkward to balance on the lap...
Wow... 12 inches. Does that mean my old Powerbook was a netbook?
No, your Powerbook was thick, fat and heavy and used a processor built for embedded applications. Everything a netbook isn't.
Why such a stupid processor?
Uh, VIA Nano processors have actually been reviewed to pawn Intel processors at some levels. Both processors are good in different ways. It's just the graphics I'm concerned about.. I'm waiting for Ion.
I would like to see something like the sony tx series (11"screen, built in dvd, roughly the same size as a 10" netbook), with similar specs, and a convertable tablet screen. The only thing that comes close is the kohjinsha sx3, but I find the 9" screen a little too small for my tastes.
Am I alone, or does anyone else think that the sony tx series is the perfect balance of form/size/function, etc. but could use a convertible tablet screen? I'd pay 1000+ for that, if the specs were decent enough.
I agree but make it slate. Who needs a keyboard anyways?
You can probably buy a TX for less than $1000. There was a deal on sonystyle.com just a few days ago where you could buy a TZ for $899.
How does the 1.3 via nano compare to the 1.6 atom?? which is better? faster?
I don't think any of us know, we're going to have to wait to find out.
I'm interested in what Via can come up with, their C-7 processors are awful compared to the Atoms.
The nanos are pretty close to the atoms performance-wise
So when is an ultraportable a netbook?
If its screen is 12" you have to look at it more closely of course, but if it is reasonably cheap and using the same low powered "netbook" chips as the smaller machines, then go ahead and call it a netbook.
12.1 inch screens are STUPID. Whats with the VIA CPU? Who paid them to put that pile of crap in there? Where is the dual atom? The real graphics? Netbooks will always suck until real stuff comes out. These lousy technology designs are just here to test the dopey early adopters. Get some real performance out of them, and then we'll talk. BYOTCHO.
That comment is wrong at so many levels, I don't know where to start...
[sarcasm]
Congrats to VIA for releasing a product 7 months after "launch"
Rumor has it dual cores are being released by Intel and AMD. Can we expect to see a dual core Nano by the end Obama administration?
[/sarcasm]
It can't be a netbook if it has a 12.1" display.
ASUS had better launch its ZX series ASAP
heard they are coming out in January
nice, i want to see what the competition has. the price could be lower
this looks like a downgrade to me, slower processor and all. unless they kicked up the res on the screen, i'll stick with the nc10.
although they did improve the trackpad...
i still like my 1.6 atom.
i know someone is going to say it anyway so let me be the first..
good thing i didn't buy the nc10.
just had that hunch.
There might be an NC20 in the works, but the picture above shows a Samsung X360 subnotebook:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/28/samsung-debuts-x360-lighter-than-air-ultraportable/
I doubt that they
... look identical?
Ha, we couldn't tell the difference between a $700 and $2300 dollar computer? Is that our mistake, or does it speak to netbooks' excellent designs these days?
Samsung NC10 get really good feedback from customers. Read customer feedback: http://www.bestdealsonar.com/good-and-cheap-samsung-nc10-netbook/ and look at the VDO.
For me, Samsung has done a great job for NC10!! Great Battery Life, Excellent Size Keyboard, Better design than many other netbooks in market.
I think if Samsung still keep this strategy for NC20, I predict Samsung will also success with NC20.
To me, a netbook is a portable computer that has enough horsepower to do basic tasks as browsing the Internet and try to keep an affordable price for the average user
A MacBook Air, as small as it can be, is not a netbook to me because it has a lot more horsepower and can handle multitasking with a lot more applications at the same time. Also, see the price..
Ok the Nano is not a typical Netbook processor. This is not your fathers Atom, highlights include:
64 Bit Support. Virtualization Extensions,etc. , and 2x the performance of the VIA C7-M. All this in under 8 watts (for the 1.3ghz model)
VIA originally designed these processors for the embedded and lowend PC market.
It seems that everyone is just following Intel's reference design and Applefying there exterior.
It'd be nice if Dell'd make a Nano based Netbook, that'd be awesome. Or, if HP would make a Nano Based 2133.
Something with NVIDIA or ATI graphics, Gigabit ethernet and Wimax/3G onboard.
It is unfortunate that Fujitsu isn't turning out the chips fast enough. :-(