Sony says the DSi is for kids, the PSP is for winners
By Nilay Patel 
posted Apr 4th 2009 4:37PM
posted Apr 4th 2009 4:37PM
If Nintendo is really committed to reaching a broader, more diverse audience of gamers beyond the "kids" market that they've always engaged, there isn't much new with the DSi to support that. Significant gamer demographic groups are being ignored, and there continues to be limited opportunities for games from external publishers to do well on the DSi. Compare that with the PSP platform, where we have many blockbuster franchises from our publishing partners launching this year, representing a wide variety of genres and targeting diverse demographics. Games such as Rock Band Unplugged from MTV Games, Assassin's Creed from Ubisoft, Dissidia Final Fantasy from Square Enix, and Hannah Montana from Disney demonstrate the commitment that publishers have to the PSP. From our own first-party studios, we're launching unique versions of LittleBigPlanet and MotorStorm, and we're also planning a steady stream of downloadable games -- both new titles and PSone classics -- to add to the content that PSP owners can already purchase wirelessly through PlayStation Store.Pretty strong words in response to the fairly un-hyped US launch of the DSi tomorrow -- especially since Ninty's sold just about twice as many total DS units than Sony's 50m PSPs, hard numbers from which no amount of marketing bluster can really distract. In fact, if we were in charge at Sony, we'd be more worried about the emergence of the iPhone and iPod touch, which have sold over 30m units total and attracted a ton of buzz from game developers while the PSP seems to be stagnating in the face of endless rumors of a UMD-less PSP2. Harsh truth? Maybe, maybe not -- you tell us.
New season Monday, GO CUBS!
Woohoo Cubbies yeah! Milton Bradley!
...not till you get a second analog stick, PSP.
Cubs are aweful, the white sox are much better. Have you been watching the cubs the past 100 years...?
Wait, what does that have to do with this article?
Oh right. Absolutely nothing.
Sony, wake up. Apple's 3.0 is going to start attacking the GPS market NOW. The ipod touch will most likely come with a mic built in (otherwise they wouldn't be bundling in the 'mic' app). And that means skype on the touch without any mess.
Apple is also likely to start diversifying. They might come up with a 5 (or 8 or more) megapixel camera, flash and real lens and all. They might make much larger batteries. They might one day kill the psp by merely bringing a series of "pro-gamers" iphones or ipod touch with the required buttons. (this latest one is a stretch, given their design history, but it becomes plausible if they decide to go head-on against sony and nintendo).
Sony you have been milking this old piece of tech since Pluto was a planet. Please wake up. Throw that UMD diskettes away, for christ's sake. Put in a phone in its place. You have to integrate your small gadget strategy. No more scores of PSPs & Mp3s and boring phones and cameras. Make something new, like the PSP was in the dark ages. Give us shock and awe.
Or maybe continue on your gradual transformation into Creative Labs.
Nothing surprising from Sony. They think they're the best.
I think their prices are ridiculous.
It's amazing how you jack nuts can bring the IPhone into context, as such, regarding ANY news article.
$10 to the first one of you that actually admits they are sexually attracted Steve Jobs or admits they've had sex with their IPhone.
@Linhares - I'm going to save this absurd tripe and post it up again when apple releases their 3.0 phone and we can all have a good laugh :)
"The ipod touch will most likely come with a mic built in (otherwise they wouldn't be bundling in the 'mic' app). And that means skype on the touch without any mess.
Apple is also likely to start diversifying. They might come up with a 5 (or 8 or more) megapixel camera, flash and real lens and all. They might make much larger batteries. They might one day kill the psp by merely bringing a series of "pro-gamers" iphones or ipod touch with the required buttons."
@ KevinC: Wanna make a bet about the mic on the touch? Wanna make a bet about competing head on with GPS devices? Wanna make a bet concerning a better camera? Wanna make a bet about more diversification in this arena? (just look at history, and at how the original ipod has diversified)
What you fail to get is that Sony has this crazy assortment of half baked products all over the map. I had a sony ericsson phone, and to listen to mp3s it required some proprietary jack. The psp, which I also have, is, to this date, stuck with those huge outdated UMDs.
Apple is not perfect of course. I hate the fact that itunes is country-by-country (while TPB is worldwide). Skype isn't available for those sorry Canadians. I could go on and on; there's plenty to complain about them. But Sony is slowly dying, whether you like it or not.
@HI
Wow, I didn't know Ozzie Guillen was gay.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Hi Linhares,
No, I don't want to bet that apple will improve their camera on the iphone or include a mic on the touch, but I would like to bet that apple will not, "come up with a 5 (or 8 or more) megapixel camera, flash and real lens and all"
and I would also like to bet that apple will not "bring[ing] a series of "pro-gamers" iphones or ipod touch with the required buttons."
The required buttons and the larger battery would both DESTROY their aesthetic and that is the first and foremost design consideration. Some third party might offer an add on but the iPhone will NEVER have the 'required buttons' for a serious portable gaming system
Also, why would you mention the proprietary jack on your sony ericson phone when I am sure you are aware of the proprietary headphone chip on the nano? Or rather, the proprietary EVERYTHING to do with apple.
As for a mic on the touch...I really have to wonder. Being in bed with AT&T, they might not want to lose phone time and they certainly don't want to lose iphone sales to the touch. I vote no to the mic but I'm not married to it. :)
Best,
KevinC
@ KevinC: Look here: http://www.edibleapple.com/report-apple-orders-32-and-5-megapixel-camera-sensors/
"a recent report from DigiTimes which notes that Apple recently secured an order with OmniVision for 3.2 megapixel image sensors to be used in the next version of the iPhone. Apple is largely rumored to be releasing the next iteration of the iPhone sometime this June, and as reports of upgraded hardware keep rolling in, the next iPhone model keeps looking better and better. Some of the already rumored upgrades for the upcoming iPhone include Video Recording capabilities, new and innovative battery technology, a 32GB model, faster Internet speeds, and of course, the new iPhone OS."
I have a PSP and an iPhone, and I love them both.
@Linhares
It's really not that important to me BUT:
First, apple ordered some 3.2 mega pixel cameras. It is 'assumed' they will be used in the iphone, and they might...hell, they probably will be. This is a far cry from the "a 5 (or 8 or more) mega pixel camera, flash and real lens" that you stated.
Also, I would not hold out on a "new and innovative battery technology." I really don't consider apple an innovator, their a stylist. They have produced a great product with limitations and intentional locks, that infuriate me, to maintain an iron fisted grip on their hardware/software. The things that can't be done on the iphone, that are innate to the hardware, should have effected sales. It's too pretty for that though...consumers like pretty bobbles. - side rant, sorry.
At any rate, I don't own an iphone so I don't know about the battery but I imagine battery life is an issue due to apple's insistence that multitasking isn't in place due to battery life. If that is the only reason for the battery discussion, no, I do not believe they will do anything about it. I believe the multitasking issue is about software control, not battery life.
I also don't own a psp, I just don't think that iphone is the end all be all portable electronic device.
Best
How did u get "final fantasy 7" on the PSP????
Once you get hold of a Pandora's battery...
And that's the easiest method, anyone without some skill to follow a tutorial will get their hardware unlocked, and off you go to download games from the PSN Store! Crash Bandicoot anyone?
I'm liking the MID-esque psp2 mock-ups. Add a keyboard in there somewhere and I'm sold. :D
The screen is touch-enabled.
Didn't you notice, man?
Without a capacitive touchscreen, a digital keyboard is about worthless.
Sony sounds rather butt-hurt. You'd think they'd be use to this by now.
I'd be butt-hurt too if I still sold and supported a console that had graphics like the original PSX and its titles were washed out, stripped versions of PS2 games. I mean seriously, DSi is bringing new features and possibly better internal hardware specs. PSP-2000 made it slimmer at the cost of battery life, the PSP-3000 is exactly like the 2000, except made it harder to hack and added the microphone. Sony's idea of revamping the PSP is releasing it in new colors, many of which never make it here to the states.
If this were still 2004, Sony could have the right to say this, but c'mon, 5 years later and they're still bashing Nintendo, Sony you FAIL!!!!!
to Setnev,
Doesn't the new DSi have decreased battery life compared to the DS? You must be a Nintendo fanboy, all the points that you made about the PSP, slimmer at cost of battery life, releasing in random colors etc, is exactly what the DSi is doing. Heck, you are losing GBA support witht he DSi compared to the DS. So what if the PSP got a mic, Nintendo added a random camera. Don't nitpick at the PSP and point out the realtive "crappy versions" when Nintendo is doing the same shit.
To add to what Son had to say, Setnev you pretty much completely contradicted yourself with this phrase:
"I'd be butt-hurt too if I still sold and supported a console that had graphics like the original PSX..."
What kind of graphics does the DS have then you dumbass? HD?
Exactly what I was going to say.. And DS graphics are shit compared to the PSP.
I take it Setnev has never played the new God of War: Chains of Olympus or Resistance: Retribution titles.
@son
From what I hear the battery in the DSi does drain faster than the DS lite - if you don't change the settings. By default the DSi's screens are several levels brighter than the max setting on the lite. Drop that down to DS lite brightness and it should be about the same (should be doing that anyway for an effective comparison).
That sounds a little dumb though, one of the new "feature" is a bigger, brighter screen, but if you have to lower it to the regular DS, than whats the point? I feel like the DSi is a poorly made re-release just so Nintendo can milk the franchise one last time before they release a new generation hand held.
Look out, Nintendo, the PSP has Hannah Montana.
Exactly what I was thinking...
But in all honesty, you have got to see that a majority of DS games are aimed at the kids, while PSP seems to follow the more mature audience...
The leading product doesn't have to tell you why the other products are inferior. I'm just saying.
*cough* WII *cough*
(Yes, I own a Wii)
Everyone owns a Wii, it's just that we don't use it.
Really, Sony? Are you sure you want to piss off Square and a few other big labels that develop for both platforms.
In a few years iPhone will be the dominant mobile gaming platform unless Sony really pulls something out of their ass with PSP2. I would much rather just carry an iPhone than a PSP/DS and a iPhone.
I just can't see that, with it not having hard dedicated gaming controls. Its a novelty gaming system.
Eh, I'd say there's very little chance of that happening as long as Nintendo has their first-party developers, as long as the DS is cheaper than the iPod touch, and as long as the DS/PSP has actual, you know, buttons.
It may become a platform to be reckoned with, maybe....
But "the dominant mobile gaming platform"? Not a chance. Touchscreen is fine for a lot of things, but there are just too many gaming genres where it would just be too imprecise and frustrating. There's no way the iPhone or the Touch will surpass a purpose-built, dedicated gaming handheld as the mainstream mobile gaming platform. It just won't happen.
Not without buttons they won't. Imagine playing COD on a Iphone. Ew.
Look the reason DS is doing well is because it s more catered toward the causal gaming audience and thats what iPhone games mostly consist of. You are not going to be seeing hardcore games on it anytime soon if ever. And I think if iPhone can get the casual gaming market like Nintendo did then I think iPhone has a good chance. Its oh so easy to buy games on iPhone. Apple has a great content delivery system with the app store.
You're still missing the point. Those games are a novelty. Remember the N-Gage? Now, granted, the iPhone is set up much better for this kind of thing, but it will never be the leader in handheld gaming because IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY BUTTONS! Shooters, platformers, racing, so many kinds of games would be too frustrating to play with imprecise controls. Think about playing Mario without having the D-Pad, just a virtual one.
Granted, there's a few games that touchscreen might make better, but the DS already has that, as well as buttons.
Compare the battery life on the iPhone and DS.
People seem to be forgetting that iPhone OS 3.0 supports accessories that can access core functions. i.e game controllers
More accessories? So a hypothetical iPod touch / iPhone game controller could be as successful as the e-Reader, then.
Comparing battery life of the DS and iPod touch / iPhone isn't entirely fair, though, because if my DS battery runs out, I can't play games- if my phone's battery runs out, I can't call or text people, which is significantly more important. (or it is for me, anyway)
@ Episilon-Not
It should be Epsilon-Naught
While I tend to agree that the iPhone probably won't become a dominant force in mobile gaming, I do find it odd that "buttons" is the reason cited for it not succeeding. I think the current crop of games has suitably demonstrated (and, let's not forget that these are pretty much 1st generation games for a new platform) that buttons are not necessary. Gamers, despite the apparent need for new technology, often seem to be stuck in the past.
yeah, psp is for mp3/mp4... ds is for games...
Exactly... And there are other devices better suited to that (iPod Touch comes to mind instantly, along with other PVPs with huge harddrives).
I don't think I'll be able to get into PSP gaming mainly because of the hacking that's so prevalent online.
Aw come on Engadget, why you have to ruin my day. Here come the fan wars.
I guess a big heap o' flamebait will stir things up on a Staturday afternoon.
-oh and you spelled wieners wrong. :p
and you spelled "Saturday" wrong
Someone explain the joke to this guy.
I'm doing something.
As lame as it sounds, it's truth. Lately, most Nintendo products are for kids.
All video game systems are for kids. They are a bunch of toys meant for playing around with. Even the iPhone is just a toy. Nothing wrong with that, toys are fun and give us entertainment.
Something that's not a toy? A cat scanner. Hard to have much fun and enjoyment out of that thing. Who wants a game system that is like a cat scanner? No fun, just does a job, nothing more. T'would be terrible.
Yeah that explains why a 26 year old physician can barely keep his hands off his DS lite...
Really, the worst thing about this statement is the fact it doesn't mention any sort of "intent" to release a PSP2, which would have the hardware needed for the kind of games PSP is made for.
Till we get a second nub, and a touchscreen, I think 3rd part developers will turn away from the PSP...
As for the DSi, I love the hardware revision, but it's just too expensive for the new things it offers over the DS lite. Anyway, if Sony won't release a next-gen PSP, then I sure hope Microsoft is.... they stole the console next-gen scene with the X360, I'm hoping they can do the same with the handheld scene...
I agree with you till the last statement, that one is a matter of opinion. Don't care who sold the most, the worlds smartest person (whoever that may be) never said anything on the matter.
"they stole the console next-gen scene with the X360, I'm hoping they can do the same with the handheld scene..."
ok Hermit you keep telling yourself that, the PS3 outsold the 360 worldwide in relative first year sales at almost twice the price! and do i even need to bring up the Wii. Oh and the 360 costs like nothing now but still isnt pulling huge sales unlike the PS3 NOBODY is waiting for a price drop.
Worldwide yes I would agree... where I come from, gamers don't even know what an Xbox 360 is. In many countries, it doesn't even have a market.
But releasing it a year early, and causing developers to basically "port" their games to the PS3 which is very much different to develop for (and hence, sometimes ported in poorer quality), that would constitute "stealing the scene". Remember, Sony is losing money on every sold PS3...
I think you make an interesting point about Microsoft. I'd like to see what they can produce in the mobile gaming arena a la the PSP. I know there are some linkage features between PSP and PS3. So with the advances in miniaturization and power of mobile chips, it would be nice to have an Xbox Mobile with the same features (but with better graphics than the current PSP). Though I have a PS3, I sold my PSP due to lack of use and the fact that I can get my 10 minute gaming fix on my iPhone. However, if Microsoft jumped on the mobile gaming gravy train with a superior product (than PSP), I would jump back in too. (I also own an Xbox 360 which I do consider marginally better than the PS3-which I bought mostly for Bluray playback anyway.)
Actually I agree.
I'm not a big fan of blowing into my mic nor, cooking mamas in a virtual world, nor italian drivers in red and green hats.
the list goes on.
Hardware-wise, both PSP 3000 and DSi suck in their own ways, so let's just ignore the differences.
There's plenty of dedicated software on the DS. The World Ends With You was a revelation last year. Professor Layton kept me engrossed as well. There are a ton of quirky titles like Henry Hattsworth, Rhythm Heaven, and Elite Beat Agents. Adventure games like the Ace Attorney series work perfectly on the platform. Not to mention the platformers and RPG (remakes) that one expects on portable systems.
I've been gaming my entire life across consoles and the PC, and I supposed I qualify as a so-called "hardcore" gamer. Frankly, I don't have as much time to play games anymore despite owning a 360 and a Wii. When I do game, I find myself gravitating to the DS' eclectic library 'cause it gives me an opportunity to waste 30 minutes rather than having to dedicate myself for a couple of hours.
GTA for teh DS :D Which actually wasn't bad >.> And how are games where you have to touch loli witches inappropriately for kids? ^_~ FF I guess you can say is for kids if you really want lol... Suikoden... Avalon Code... Sony is just sad that their PSP was crap in the beginning.
The only thing holding back Apple's potential is their design standards
if they had a D-pad and a couple usable buttons like most handhelds at it's launch had, there certainly would have been an even bigger market for games
otherwise they have graphic and touch capabilities way better than the DS, and even though it doesn't have two screens, it has more pixels than the two DS screens combined
not to mention developers and users alike seem to overall like the content deliverly over physical media
Two DS lite screens combinhd = 640X480
One iPhone screen = 480X320
... but yeah I think if the new iPhone has a 5-directional nub instead of the home button (the nub -when held- would also serve as a home button) and 2 small N81-esque buttons on either sides of the speaker, it would be a lot better gaming-wise....
This has nothing to do with apple?
@tarex
2 DS Screens are 256x192 each, or 256x384 combined
1 thing that Sony did right with the PSP is making the games region free, while Nintendo went backwards with the DSi by region locking games. However, since the DS is already a money printer for Nintendo, Sony need to just shut up and work on the next gen PSP.
Sony screwed up by making people jump through hoops and/or buy PS1 games that they already owned.
you do realise the DSi is region free,
only DSiWare and DSi only games(none have been actually announced) are region locked, and when did downloadable games ever become region free??
Times are so bad at Sony, it won't be long before they start talking trash and spreading rumors about Mario and Luigi.
C'mon. Who are we kidding here? Is it the Sony-hating that prevents haters from admitting there is truth in what Sony said? Or is it Engadget's crap coating effect (e.g. where is that quote did Sony say the "PSP is for winners"???) ? It is absolutely true that the DS caters to a young crowd. Period.
It doesn't help that Nintendo is posting record profits while Sony is posting record losses.
Talking shit only works when you have something to back up said shit.
What they don't understand is shoe-horning a cut down version of a game that is also on PS3, 360, PC etc. onto a PSP makes for a terrible game. The best DS games are custom made for the DS.
That's why the DS does well.
Handheld gaming consoles are for kids.
They shouldn't fucking be, stupid society.
Sony has always been a cocky company so why is this suddenly a surprise heh
because they are no longer the market leader and are living in their own sony PR world, they have absolutely no reason to speak in a way to give nintendo any advise as they are being embarrassed in bothe the console and handheld market sales wise
unfortunately, i agree mike. :( lol
@mike
Sony as a large makes more money than Nintendo or have you forgot there other departments?
Sony has always been a cocky company? Actually that's not true. I'm just old enough to remember how Sony built their reputation throughout the 1970s as a company that made very affordable electronics that performed quite well and were extremely reliable.
My take is that when the company expanded and began hiring American executives, they also began to exhibit the hubris (and the overpricing) that is now synonymous with the Sony brand.
@comments4cheap
"Sony as a large makes more money than Nintendo or have you forgot there other departments?"
You know what I don't understand about ignorant, self-absorbed, and plainly dumb people? It's that they are so quick to run their mouths to make someone else look like a fool, when they themselves are the most foolish.
Now, how is it then that Nintendo is the NUMBER TWO Japanese company right behind Toyota in terms of net worth, and Sony is somehow magically making more money (talking profit here, not revenue)? Of course, this is besides the point, the real argument here is whether DS is truly marketed to the kiddies, and if PSP is the only "cool" manly handheld. Well, I would have to say, now with the advent of the DSi, that both systems are being marketed to the tech savvy, AND the kids.
Why do I think this? Great question. If you take a look at some of the new ads from Nintendo, they use college-aged guys that trash talk to each other in order to sell the DSi. Sounds a bit...non-"kiddie" to me; however, if one was to really want to know which of the two systems is most "kiddie"-like, they would have to take a glance at each system's library of games. DS offers an expansive library full of all sorts of great games across every genre imaginable, even FPS', believe it or not (even rated M, GASP!). PSP? The system is quite the mixed bag, and unfortunately handles more like a console that just happens to be portable, than an actual portable console, with a majority of games built as such. Though, the PSP doesn't end up being anymore, or any less "kiddie" than the DS. Both systems attract children, and attract older gamers.
People need to get over this brand attachment stuff; it's really ridiculous. Being more objective will make you a happier person...and more informed as well.
Too much pot?
Considering most of the updates to the PSP have been aesthetic... I guess the PSP was a little more well-prepared from the get-go for downloading stuff to it But I've always liked DS games better. They felt more like portable games rather than console games shoehorned into a portable device.
And what's wrong with going for the kids in a marketing standpoint? They have nothing but disposable income and guilty parents who'll buy 'em anything. Adults do have money to spend, but unless they're basement dwellers, they also have other things to spend their money on. They're like icing on the cake IMO since adults can purchase games meant for adults /and/ kids.
I don't think there are many kids with actual income but there are undoubtedly plenty who make their parents' income disposable.
Kids have it all. Back in my day (in the '90s), I had to walk 10 miles barefoot in the snow to wrestle a bear for a shovel so I could remove said snow from people's lawns so I could mow it for $5. The lawnmower itself required another epic 10 mile barefoot journey. If the DS and PSP had existed back then, I would go for the PSP so I could have the additional benefit of a media player. Now that it has removable storage, I would go for the DSi. AAC-only is balls, though. I suspect there's homebrew out there that would take care of that.
Sony can go play with its own stick...memory stick that is.
"...we're launching unique versions of LittleBigPlanet and MotorStorm,..."
I'd like to see that happen! I mean, does it have THAT much graphical power?
exactly... the PSP -unlike the DS- needs to be a lot more capable to suit the games that are released for it.
Time to move on to a PSP2 before Microsoft does, IMO...
Go play God of War: Chains of Olympus.
In short, the answer is yes.
@TareX
Microsoft will have a portable console before Sony even gets R&D done for their "PSP2"
iPhone/iPod touch is not in the same league as PSP/DS. In terms of hardware capabilities, developer support, number of AA and AAA titles, and aesthetic practicality it is like comparing a bicycle to a car.
Kind of interesting that Sony has developed the same degree of arrogance Nintendo displayed in the 8bit and 16bit console generations. Great twist now that Nintendo outsells Sony on both the console and portable front.
I am in the "mature" audience and I probably would be stamped with the "hardcore gamer" tag because of that. But for me, I would still play my DS over a PSP anyday. Not saying PSP sucks, faaaarrr from that. It's just I would rather play the DS and it's games over the PSP games. Maybe I am being biased though. I don't have a PSP but I have seen the games and it doesn't intrigue me. (Few games exclusively for Sony intrigue me though).
This may be an ignorant statement, but it seems to me the DS has more adventure/action/platformer games (that seem intriguing to me) than PSP. The PSP seems to have more FPS or racing games and I'm more an action/adventure/platformer gamer. Wow...that was a mouthful LOL.
Why would Sony even put something like this out? Did Nintendo say something? Sore move on Sony's part IMO...
What about: God of war , Final Fantasy Tactics war of the lions, Jeane D Arc, Monster Hunter 1, 2, 2g, Mega man powered up, megaman mavirck hunter, Killzone liberation, Patapon 1 and 2, Resistance Retribution, Spyhon Filter Dark Mirror, Syphon Filter Logans Shadow, Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core, Suikoden 1 and 2, Legends of Heroes 1 2 and 3, Y's 6, Dungeon Explorer, Dungeon Siege thrown of agony, Phantasy Star Online, Twisted Metal Head on, Medievel Reserection, Castlevania Dracula X- Rondo of Blood and Syphony of the Night, Splinter Cell: Essentials, Dungeons and Dragons Tactics, Ace Combat, 007: Dr. No, Metal of Honor Heroes 1 and 2, Prince of Persia revelations, pop rival swords, Tekken 5 dark revelations, Disgaea 1 and 2, Burnout Legends and Dominator, need for speed, Ghost and Goblins 3d, Lumines, Socom Tactical Strike, Socom Fire team bravo 1 and 2, Field Commander, Tales of Esperia, Tales of the world radient mythology, Vahylaha knights 1 and 2, Silent Hill Origins, Metal Gear Solid ACID 1, MGS Acid 2, Metal Gear Solid Portable OPS, MGS portable ops+, Tomb raider Anniv, Legend, and Underworld, Final Fantasy 1, Final Fantasy 2, Final Fantasy Disigia,
Final Fantasy XIII: Agito, Kingodonm Hearts, Parasite Eve: 3rd Birthday, Untold Legends 1 and 2, Puzzle Quest, Dungeon Maker 1 and 2, Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories, Grand Theft Auto: vice city Stories.
You see these games look just as good and many times better than the ps2 games, Most of these are not just ports but their own games in the series. But full games, You can save at any point by hitting the side power lightly and come back where you left off without battery usage. The thing is so beatiful and the games are great! I own a ds as well but only for castlevania ff3, ff4 ,dq and suikoden triekas. Go to the store 90% of the DS is kids games.... 90% of the psp games are aimed at a teen - adult. Go look at the store. You people are so blinded by your alliegence to M$'s crappy RROD Box and hatred to Sony that you are in denail to the massive library of hardcore psp games out there. They are great and the thing can play the entire library of PS1 games and some ps3 games over remote play too. You people need to learn a thing or too...this is from a hardcore gamer who owns all consoles and pc gaming rig, but no xbox.... I know what I am talking about ...the psp and ds are good but psp is so much better!
I can not reply to midnightshade but as a 'mature' person you migth want to read more closly about what Skyla wrote.
"Not saying PSP sucks, faaaarrr from that. It's just I would rather play the DS and it's games over the PSP games."
He was speaking for himself with regards to to PSP. Maybe you are blinded for your Sony love that you ignore that some people might not find those games of value to them. 90% of games suck, we all should ignore them so whether they are aimed at teens or not should not matter. I was not aware that a mature person can not enjoy Metroid Zero or Viva Pinata.
So you should take note of your own bias and realize that people have their own tastes that might not be satisfied by your choices of entertainment.
I know everyone seems to think that the PSP has to be an end all be all game-only console, but I much rather prefer it to do other things like music, videos, pics, Skype (VoIP), streaming tv and web-browsing...
But then again, I'm not much of a gamer either... But what is everyone wanting out of a game with the PSP? What is the expectation with the PSP when it comes to games? PS3 HD graphics? Great time-waster titles? Most people only play with the PSP when they're waiting on something or going somewhere... How many people sit at home and play with their PSP's when they probably have a PS2 or 3 sitting in front of them? How amazing do the games really have to be on a handheld console???
Sony knows games aren't always going to be everything... Even the PlayStation name could variably be applied to the other functionalities of the PSP. Play (Movie) Station. Play (Music) Station. Play (Pictures) Station. Play (Internet Radio) Station. Play (RSS Feeds) Station.
I would rather the PSP become Sony's iPod Touch...
-With a SDK's for VNC, AIM and Slingbox clients via a PlayStation App Store...
-Web-kit browser and smooth kinetic scrolling...
-Exchange/IMAP/POP3 support and PIM apps.
That would be sick,sonys iPod touch.
If Sony is really committed to reaching gamers, there aren't many new games with the PSP to support that. Significant gamer demographic groups are being ignored, and there continues to be limited opportunities for games from external publishers to do well on the PSP. Compare that with the DS platform, where they have many blockbuster franchises from their publishing partners launching this year, last year, and pretty much every year representing a wide variety of genres and targeting diverse demographics.
In only 1.5 years iPhone/touch have sold 30 million units. Hot damn!!!!!!!!!!
I own psp,ds and 7 hours will have dsi. Come on Sony , that comment was uncalled for. Call it what u want , dsi will be a huge success globally guaranteed!!
Ms zune fanboys feeling so left out.
What about winner kids?
It probably helps that the DS has more than 14 games XD
not til PSP gets a good set of real original games.
/butthurt