Ready for another round of Microsoft's Laptop Hunters? This time it's Lauren -- not the infamous original LH -- and mom seeking the perfect PC to take with her to law school. Top on the list of needs is a portable with speed and battery life, all for less than $1700. Shying away from the more expensive MacBook Pro -- a pretty tame jab, much like the last ad -- the dynamic duo settle on a Dell XPS 13a 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM, 320GB HDD, and a $899 price tag. All in all, not the most exciting commercial the series has fostered, and with Apple finally going on the offensive, we really hope the gang in Redmond take it up a notch. See the relatively bite-free video for yourself after the break.
Update: Looks like Microsoft's pulled the video, probably due to some audio sync issues -- can we get Sheila on the case? We'll let you know when it springs back up.
surely if someone just wants a "BIG" computer, why not go to the computer museum and get one of those running on vacuum tubes?
but seriously i know several friends of mine also like BIG screen and one of them bought an 18" inch sony. but god that damn thing is heavier than a 5-year-old and its battery flats out in 1.5 hours. so i said to my friend, since you can't practically move it about, why didn't you spend the same money to buy a much better spec'd desktop, say an imac. so when you do needa move it about once in a long while, actually it's just about as heavy as a uhh... laptop...
She not only got what she wanted, but she got what she deserved. A cheap-ass notebook produced by a company that's bleeding cash like a punctured aorta. I'm a PC and I'm one tight-fisted Maryland Farmer. Women sure must not buy computers as they would buy jewelry. They never pick out the cheapest bracelets or rings. Gimme the cheapest gold earrings you got....never happen in a million years.
We got one left, alright. They originally had two in stock. Probably the lowest-end model Dell could manage to build. I'll see you two suckers back in a year when your plasticky Dell notebook starts self-destructing.
How can you compare the quality of Apple to Dell where Dell makes far, far, far more computers?
If Apple was as big as HP, Dell or Acer in marketshare, you bet their quality would most likely go down as well with all the PCs they have to manufacture and cut corners inevitably.
And if OSX has as big marketshare as Windows, it would probably have as much malware as Windows as well.
Cosmo, you'd be damned. I and 4 people I know at school have macbooks breaking left and right. I had a defective keyboard, the discoloring palmrest, and cracking shell. Apple products are sexy, and that is about its only capability.
And before you say "Herp derp, it has OS X", ever heard of putting OS X on something else? By hacking it?
All the other laptops in the house are far older than my macbook, but other than scratches, they are in better condition than my macbook. And I treat my macbook with care.
the two of my buddies with macs have the left side of the thing literally peeling away from the rest of the body, not to mention the port where you plug the power cable in is literally half melted.
thinking a laptop is fool proof and wont break is asinine, my dads 10 year old gateway celeron laptop with windows ME is still running like a champ, but my buddies acer died after 6 months from a motherboard defect.
no matter how you look at it, all laptops break and fucking bragging because yours is a better is a practice in stupidity.
What terrible ads. Atleast the Mac PC ads were funny.
"I have a LOW LOW budget of $1,700 dollars to buy a computer. Unfortunately the MacBooks start at $999 WHICH I CANT AFFORD SOMEHOW!!!1. I didn't buy this one cause its too big. AND I NVR BOUGHT DIS 1 CAUSE ITS PINK. EWEWEW."
that was filmed not to far from where I live in at south coast plaza in orange county. Chicks that live out here would think pink is a good selling point for a computer.
I mean they picked the Blackjack as #1, a Windows Mobile phone.
"The T-Mobile Wing (now this one really was a surprise to me because of the lame processor), Motorola Q9C, T-Mobile Shadow (one of my personal favorites), and BlackBerry Pearl Flip round out the top 5."
I dont see the iPhone on that list. I guess if we are to trust Consumer Reports, the iPhone is a piece of shit, no?
So, do you still want to reference Consumer Reports? Please tell me you do...
@Cosmo: So because Apple's quality goes down as they produce more units sometime in the future, you aren't buying the most reliable computers now? Also, I fail to see the catch-22 in your statement.
@ b: because the 18" sony has an amazing screen for anyone who does photo work. Seriously awesome screen, and it's still more portable than any desktop. Though it's not the kind of thing you'd want to carry it every day, if you need the power on the road on a regular occasion, it's certainly better than having to pack up the keyboard, mouse etc.
It would be an interesting study to find out how many people use Macs for 3-4 years, and then say, "Instead of getting another Mac, I'm gonna try an HP with Vista now..."
So. How do I even begin? There are just far too many points to address that (for me at least) have been building up for a long, long time in my passive-aggressive soul. I'll attempt to articulate them as best as I can.
1.) I really, really need to get this off my chest. Holy mother-fing jeebus (as you'll find out, I'm a swearing proponent, and if I knew that the Big E's comments system would take those I would have said them normally), if I hear one more stupid a-hole ranting about the merits of his awesome W7 or Mac OSX or Jaunty or Fedora, I swear to my non-existent sister's life that I will switch over to Giz (yes, they suck, but quite frankly, their comments are WAY funnier than E's comments). You guys suck the soul right out of this place.
2.) What dumba** is confused or offended by this series of advertisements by MS? Seriously, the Get-A-Mac ads sucked (do suck?) just as much. Ultimately, Microsoft is a for-profit business, as is Apple, and their respective jobs are to fuc* all of you out of a few hundred $$ to benefit their shareholders . . . as are all publicly-traded companies. This is capitalism, sorry. Obviously they should be making products that are WORTH the $$ that they charge for them . . . but that is a basic supply / demand debate for another day.
3.) God dammit, you a-holes need to stop quoting figures out of your collective asses. I'm sorry, but someone needed to say that. Mac laptops are no more reliable than their Windows counterparts (Mac desktops, however, are a whole different story according to consumer reports*). So please, stop this meaningless back-and-forth. Use what you need to use to most effectively accomplish your task and keep your Faith to yourself.
4.) Most on point: these MS ads make me sick. I'm a strong believer in "you get what you pay for," and quite frankly the laptop this girl's paying for is just crappy for her available budget. I, as a rule, tend to stay away from "consumer-grade" stuff when I have the money to do so. With a $1,700 budget (and a nice BMW), she could've gotten a nice Dell Precision etc. that would've lasted her a lot longer, and would've given her more satisfactory performance throughout life of ownership. Honestly, if she's a law student, she should've at least considered getting a netbook with a good keyboard and a decent desktop (for the total price of one compact, full-featured notebook). That's my most fundamental problem with these ads (this goes for AAPL as well) - they treat consumers like the shi*-for-brains they are. Most of us Engadgeteers know what we want from our PCs (Macs are PCs as well), but the general public is pretty ignorant as a whole . . . and this ad preys on the ignorant and innocent. Ugh.
*That's what consumer reports said in 2007 / 2008, anyway.
Full disclosure: I have a MBP that I am VERY happy with, a self-built MSI desktop Windows 7 box that I am also VERY happy with, and a eee 901 MS XP that rocks (Jaunty sucked on both Wind and EEE, IMHO. Will try next release when Adobe stops being an as*hole - their Linux flash sucks).
1.) Stop replying to the top thread just to look cool. I know I did it, but seriously, I've never done that on any other story (and let's face it - I just did it here to try to prove a point). It sucks for everyone else who has to read your unrelated responses.
2.) I'm sorry if that post was in any way inflammatory . . . I love you all (well, a great majority of you anyway). Truth be told, I'm an apple fanboy, although, as a rationalist, I'm getting more pissed off by the day. I like everything (meaning XP, W7, Ubuntu (9.04 still isn't quite ready btw), and OSX) right now.
If Engadget had a better comment system... like Gizmodo or Digg... I'd be happier.
I reply to a comment... submit it... then get dumped to page 5 of the comments... with no navigation other than "Previous 50 Comments"
Engadget comment system sucks. At least let you go directly to your comment from your profile! I'd like to read people's response to my comment... but I have to search through 5 pages of crap to find it!
Touche. Uncle E has never addressed this problem (despite everyone's vocal concern), and probably never will. We can all hope, though - right? Thanks for pointing that out; some of the reply blitz makes a lot more sense now. Or less sense, depending on your perspective I guess . . . good times.
For electronics it's somewhat pointless to use Consumer Reports since they can't get useful data on every possible product out there. So the Macbook is being compared against a very limited field, in the 13 inch category serious competitors like the Vaio SR and Vaio Z series are both missing, which makes the "win" rather pointless. They're a lot more useful for cars where there are more limited numbers of models out there and number of owners of the same model is a lot greater.
The Apple notebooks are indeed decently built, but calling it a sweep is pretty pointless when tons of models and even manufacturers aren't being represented. Where's Panasonic and their Toughbooks? Where are most of Sony's VAIO models? Samsung? There's a ton of higher-end competitors out there that weren't on the list.
@ marek +1 for "Macs are PCs" could never understand why ppl think Macs are not Personal Computers. If not, what are they? Some white shiny cubes good for showcasing your pron collection?
All Blonde Girls was angry at microsoft for showing them so stupid, so microsoft removed it.... they told her she can get up to 1700$ laptop
They are willing to give her as much as 1700$ for a laptop and she bought a laptop for 899$? Buy the 1700$ LAPTOP ->Sell it unopened for 1400$ easily then go buy the 899$ LAPTOP
"They are willing to give her as much as 1700$ for a laptop and she bought a laptop for 899$? Buy the 1700$ LAPTOP ->Sell it unopened for 1400$ easily then go buy the 899$ LAPTOP"
I don't understand why all the criticism when Microsoft shows people with realistic values purchasing computers. The fact is that Apple owns ~10% of the market share for PCs, and the reason for that isn't because they're brainwashed into being stupid. It's because of compatibility with their work. It's because there is a noticable price difference in the store. It's because of personal familiarity with Windows of the users. It's because of gaming. When anyone points out there are reasons not to want to spend more money for a product that doesn't meet their needs adequately, all the Mac fans in the world (ie, the writers and artists of the world) pile out of the wood work and claim that it's a sham. Could it be that most of the PC users in the world just have different values than Mac users? Is that too much to believe?
the only people who bother to comment in these types of posts are fanboys for each side. in other words, you're wasting your breath on ~1% of the computer users.
i'm a graphic designer. ever since i got my vista 64 bit, 8x2.66 GHz, 8 GB, quadro fx 3700 rig, you couldn't pay me to use my mac. actually, i guess i'll still use it for the internets and what-not.
I'm also a graphic designer, and I actually used my head to buy the following:
Intel i7-920- 2.6 GHz ASUS P6T Deluxe motherboard Transcend RAM - 10 GB DDR 3 - 1333 BUS (2GB X 5) GIGABYTE Case "Aluminium" Sumo - Black FSP Power Supply 800 Watts GIGABYTE NVIDIA 9800GTX 512 MB DDR DDR3 PCI-E WD HDD 1 TB SATA -7200 RPM 32MB Cache Windows Vista U 64bit Microsoft thin Wireless Keyboard and Mouse.
All for about $1700 only!!! I shit you not.
Now tell me, how can anyone talk about any Mac after all of this awesomeness at that price?!
Because to the Mac fanboy (not the general user), they want competition, except if it is competition with an Appe product. They want choice, as long as the only choice is Apple. They want you to Think Different, as long as you think the way Apple does.
Any criticism, any challenge, or pointing out any problems with an Apple product and it sends them into a tailspin. If you do criticize, then you are just not enlightened like they are (see any of Paul's posts). If you do challenge, such as with the Zune, then you are just copying everything Apple has ever done (see any of Jubei's posts). If you show a flaw, it is not Apple's fault, it is because you are an idiot and too stupid to know how to use the offering made by Apple and it is your fault (see any of Zak's posts).
To a Microsoft user, we know it is not perfect. We will admit to flaws, mistakes, imperfections, and downright stupid things they have done. But to the other side, they criticize Microsoft for those problems (and often, those criticisms are valid) but when Apple does the same exact thing, eh, it is OK, because Apple did it. Some examples are: Drivers missing from Vista - the OS is a failure. Drivers missing from Leopard (search for missing HP printer drivers) - why would you want to use a 4 year old printer? Vista puts up a UAC dialog when trying to modify protected data areas or install software - the OS is a failure. OS X puts up a similar dialog - it is there to protect the user. Microsoft puts content DRM support in their code - the code is a failure. Apple has content protection in their code - it is there to allow more people to download meida they want. Microsoft puts out a commercial saying that Windows computers are cheaper than Apple computers - how dare they. Apple has commercial after commercial attacking Microsoft, sometimes lying, sometimes showing flaws in Microsoft products when Apple has those same problems, sometimes saying one thing when it is Apple that does it (remember the disclaimer ad from Apple, how many disclaimers do you see in a Microsoft ad, how many do you see in an iPhone commercial) - Yeah! Stick it to them Apple, they deserve to be dragged through the mud.
Here's to the imperfect ones. The invisible. The less-fortunate. Those that make do with what they have. Valuing substance over appearance. The ones who embrace options.
They're not fond of restrictions. And they have no respect for the latest trends.
You can praise them, disagree with them, quote them, disbelieve them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them.
Because they make things possible.
They take risks. They cheat. They make opportunites. They attempt dangerous things. They flirt with failure. They try what others don't.
@Saad Rabia I really hate to burst your bubble but if you had used your head to buy that then you would have realized that 10gb's of ram will not work with an i7 processor because it requires triple channel memory. 3, 6, 12, or 24gb's.
Also while it does cost more for a mac pro you have to keep in mind that the mac pro has 2 server grade i7 processors in it along with a damn sexy case and has better software support for graphic designers and movie makers.
@everyone 1080p on a laptop isn't important. The screen is so small that you will never notice the extra resolution for watching movies. if you are doing something that needs a lot on the screen at once get a desktop.
@cosmo you make some valid points. You point out apples defensiveness about the Eula, there are 2 reasons they are like that. 1. so they can sell hardware. 2.It keeps quality of user experience consistent and makes it easier for their engineers to write solid code. When Microsoft makes windows they have to have it be fully compatible with 100's of motherboards, 100's of graphics cards, 100's of sound cards, 100's of processors, 100's of dvd drives, where as Apple only has 10 processors 10 motherboards, 10 graphics cards, and 10 sound cards they have to support so it is much easier for them to write good software that takes full advantage of the hardware and has as few hardware based vulnerabilities as possible.
lack of bluray is kinda annoying, so is hdmi, but I understand why they don't do both. bluray cuts into their sale and rental of hd movies on itunes which they feel is going to win over bluray because of the easy of use and the speed of the internet. and no hdmi allows them to sell adapters so that if a user wants to use a non apple external monitor then they still have to pay a little money to apple. greedy I know, but it's how they do it. Also 99% of users don't care for those sort of things. In my experience most people only use usb ports and don't feel comfortable with the other ports because they don't know what they do.
also for the record I am not a mac fan boy. I several windows pc's but for laptops I feel that the build quality of apples is worth the extra money. I just purchased a 15" macbook pro(refurbished so it didn't cost as much) and a i7 desktop. I am all about quality of my computing experience and I just find windows laptops to be clunky poorly designed and they tend to run slower even with faster hardware. My macbook pro boots from off to usable in 20 seconds. I have never seen a windows laptop 100% usable in under 30. I think that everyone should buy a mac laptop and return it after a week and see if they still feel the same way about their windows laptop.,
The truth. Most people still use Windows because of three reasons. Price. Not having to learn a new system. Compatibility with a wide array of software including games.
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posted May 14th 2009 6:56PM
Woah, it's not an HP.
"That is a BIG computer" - that's what Lauren said.
surely if someone just wants a "BIG" computer, why not go to the computer museum and get one of those running on vacuum tubes?
but seriously i know several friends of mine also like BIG screen and one of them bought an 18" inch sony. but god that damn thing is heavier than a 5-year-old and its battery flats out in 1.5 hours. so i said to my friend, since you can't practically move it about, why didn't you spend the same money to buy a much better spec'd desktop, say an imac. so when you do needa move it about once in a long while, actually it's just about as heavy as a uhh... laptop...
She not only got what she wanted, but she got what she deserved. A cheap-ass notebook produced by a company that's bleeding cash like a punctured aorta. I'm a PC and I'm one tight-fisted Maryland Farmer. Women sure must not buy computers as they would buy jewelry. They never pick out the cheapest bracelets or rings. Gimme the cheapest gold earrings you got....never happen in a million years.
We got one left, alright. They originally had two in stock. Probably the lowest-end model Dell could manage to build. I'll see you two suckers back in a year when your plasticky Dell notebook starts self-destructing.
And Apple notebooks have NEVER had built quality problems right? Their always solid as a rock? : )
How can you compare the quality of Apple to Dell where Dell makes far, far, far more computers?
If Apple was as big as HP, Dell or Acer in marketshare, you bet their quality would most likely go down as well with all the PCs they have to manufacture and cut corners inevitably.
And if OSX has as big marketshare as Windows, it would probably have as much malware as Windows as well.
Its a catch-22.
my macbook pro is still better than any Dell
Your Mac Book pro cost 3 time the price of my Dell and I have better graphics, more memory and a better screen than you.
You do know the 300$ mini 9 have better screen quality than your mac book pro? Search on google, you will find the test and articles.
Cosmo, you'd be damned. I and 4 people I know at school have macbooks breaking left and right. I had a defective keyboard, the discoloring palmrest, and cracking shell. Apple products are sexy, and that is about its only capability.
And before you say "Herp derp, it has OS X", ever heard of putting OS X on something else? By hacking it?
All the other laptops in the house are far older than my macbook, but other than scratches, they are in better condition than my macbook. And I treat my macbook with care.
@ Zak
You read Cosmo?
people dont really buy into advertising do they?
the two of my buddies with macs have the left side of the thing literally peeling away from the rest of the body, not to mention the port where you plug the power cable in is literally half melted.
thinking a laptop is fool proof and wont break is asinine, my dads 10 year old gateway celeron laptop with windows ME is still running like a champ, but my buddies acer died after 6 months from a motherboard defect.
no matter how you look at it, all laptops break and fucking bragging because yours is a better is a practice in stupidity.
What terrible ads. Atleast the Mac PC ads were funny.
"I have a LOW LOW budget of $1,700 dollars to buy a computer. Unfortunately the MacBooks start at $999 WHICH I CANT AFFORD SOMEHOW!!!1. I didn't buy this one cause its too big. AND I NVR BOUGHT DIS 1 CAUSE ITS PINK. EWEWEW."
Hey Zak:
Consumer Reports also picked the Nokia E71, a Windows Mobile phone as the number 1 smartphone. In fact, 3 of the 5 they picked were Windows Mobile.
The iPhone was 3rd in their list.
Do you really want to reference Consumer Reports?
http://blogs.zdnet.com/cell-phones/?p=375
hey clever boys from MS... you forget Macbook. 2.4 (speed) 13.3inch display (portability) and 4hours of battery life. its under 1700$ STUPID
there is not only macbook pro STUPID MS
that was filmed not to far from where I live in at south coast plaza in orange county. Chicks that live out here would think pink is a good selling point for a computer.
Woops:
I mean they picked the Blackjack as #1, a Windows Mobile phone.
"The T-Mobile Wing (now this one really was a surprise to me because of the lame processor), Motorola Q9C, T-Mobile Shadow (one of my personal favorites), and BlackBerry Pearl Flip round out the top 5."
I dont see the iPhone on that list. I guess if we are to trust Consumer Reports, the iPhone is a piece of shit, no?
So, do you still want to reference Consumer Reports? Please tell me you do...
No highly ranked comments yet. Carry on.
hey iphonerulz, if dell sucks so much, why is that so many mac fanboys use dell monitors with their macs?
@Cosmo: So because Apple's quality goes down as they produce more units sometime in the future, you aren't buying the most reliable computers now? Also, I fail to see the catch-22 in your statement.
@ b: because the 18" sony has an amazing screen for anyone who does photo work. Seriously awesome screen, and it's still more portable than any desktop. Though it's not the kind of thing you'd want to carry it every day, if you need the power on the road on a regular occasion, it's certainly better than having to pack up the keyboard, mouse etc.
The Sony AW certainly tops Apple and Dell's XPS
http://www.rgbfilter.com/?p=459
Wimmins... Amirite?
People who have Macs like their Macs.
People who hate Macs are usually non-Mac users.
It would be an interesting study to find out how many people use Macs for 3-4 years, and then say, "Instead of getting another Mac, I'm gonna try an HP with Vista now..."
How many switchers go the other way?
Hey guys,
So. How do I even begin? There are just far too many points to address that (for me at least) have been building up for a long, long time in my passive-aggressive soul. I'll attempt to articulate them as best as I can.
1.) I really, really need to get this off my chest. Holy mother-fing jeebus (as you'll find out, I'm a swearing proponent, and if I knew that the Big E's comments system would take those I would have said them normally), if I hear one more stupid a-hole ranting about the merits of his awesome W7 or Mac OSX or Jaunty or Fedora, I swear to my non-existent sister's life that I will switch over to Giz (yes, they suck, but quite frankly, their comments are WAY funnier than E's comments). You guys suck the soul right out of this place.
2.) What dumba** is confused or offended by this series of advertisements by MS? Seriously, the Get-A-Mac ads sucked (do suck?) just as much. Ultimately, Microsoft is a for-profit business, as is Apple, and their respective jobs are to fuc* all of you out of a few hundred $$ to benefit their shareholders . . . as are all publicly-traded companies. This is capitalism, sorry. Obviously they should be making products that are WORTH the $$ that they charge for them . . . but that is a basic supply / demand debate for another day.
3.) God dammit, you a-holes need to stop quoting figures out of your collective asses. I'm sorry, but someone needed to say that. Mac laptops are no more reliable than their Windows counterparts (Mac desktops, however, are a whole different story according to consumer reports*). So please, stop this meaningless back-and-forth. Use what you need to use to most effectively accomplish your task and keep your Faith to yourself.
4.) Most on point: these MS ads make me sick. I'm a strong believer in "you get what you pay for," and quite frankly the laptop this girl's paying for is just crappy for her available budget. I, as a rule, tend to stay away from "consumer-grade" stuff when I have the money to do so. With a $1,700 budget (and a nice BMW), she could've gotten a nice Dell Precision etc. that would've lasted her a lot longer, and would've given her more satisfactory performance throughout life of ownership. Honestly, if she's a law student, she should've at least considered getting a netbook with a good keyboard and a decent desktop (for the total price of one compact, full-featured notebook). That's my most fundamental problem with these ads (this goes for AAPL as well) - they treat consumers like the shi*-for-brains they are. Most of us Engadgeteers know what we want from our PCs (Macs are PCs as well), but the general public is pretty ignorant as a whole . . . and this ad preys on the ignorant and innocent. Ugh.
*That's what consumer reports said in 2007 / 2008, anyway.
Full disclosure: I have a MBP that I am VERY happy with, a self-built MSI desktop Windows 7 box that I am also VERY happy with, and a eee 901 MS XP that rocks (Jaunty sucked on both Wind and EEE, IMHO. Will try next release when Adobe stops being an as*hole - their Linux flash sucks).
I apologize,
Two more things I wanted to quickly cover.
1.) Stop replying to the top thread just to look cool. I know I did it, but seriously, I've never done that on any other story (and let's face it - I just did it here to try to prove a point). It sucks for everyone else who has to read your unrelated responses.
2.) I'm sorry if that post was in any way inflammatory . . . I love you all (well, a great majority of you anyway). Truth be told, I'm an apple fanboy, although, as a rationalist, I'm getting more pissed off by the day. I like everything (meaning XP, W7, Ubuntu (9.04 still isn't quite ready btw), and OSX) right now.
@ marek
If Engadget had a better comment system... like Gizmodo or Digg... I'd be happier.
I reply to a comment... submit it... then get dumped to page 5 of the comments... with no navigation other than "Previous 50 Comments"
Engadget comment system sucks. At least let you go directly to your comment from your profile! I'd like to read people's response to my comment... but I have to search through 5 pages of crap to find it!
@ Mr. Scrip
Touche. Uncle E has never addressed this problem (despite everyone's vocal concern), and probably never will. We can all hope, though - right? Thanks for pointing that out; some of the reply blitz makes a lot more sense now. Or less sense, depending on your perspective I guess . . . good times.
For electronics it's somewhat pointless to use Consumer Reports since they can't get useful data on every possible product out there. So the Macbook is being compared against a very limited field, in the 13 inch category serious competitors like the Vaio SR and Vaio Z series are both missing, which makes the "win" rather pointless. They're a lot more useful for cars where there are more limited numbers of models out there and number of owners of the same model is a lot greater.
The Apple notebooks are indeed decently built, but calling it a sweep is pretty pointless when tons of models and even manufacturers aren't being represented. Where's Panasonic and their Toughbooks? Where are most of Sony's VAIO models? Samsung? There's a ton of higher-end competitors out there that weren't on the list.
Damn, Mom sure got a dig on Lauren at the end! So she saying Lauren's a hot little slut/tease or what?
Lauren: "I'm a PC and I got exactly what I wanted."
Mom: "She usually does."
What I don't understand is Lauren could have spent **$1700** and instead spent only $972 on a 13" Dell XPS Studio.
For less than $1700 she could have got a White or unibody Aluminum MacBook (13" natch) and upgraded the RAM and HD to match the Dell.
@ marek
+1 for "Macs are PCs"
could never understand why ppl think Macs are not Personal Computers. If not, what are they? Some white shiny cubes good for showcasing your pron collection?
Microsoft really has been removed by the user.
All Blonde Girls was angry at microsoft for showing them so stupid, so microsoft removed it.... they told her she can get up to 1700$ laptop
They are willing to give her as much as 1700$ for a laptop and she bought a laptop for 899$?
Buy the 1700$ LAPTOP ->Sell it unopened for 1400$ easily then go buy the 899$ LAPTOP
What's sad is that girl is so hot now, but she's eventually going to turn into her blob of a mother.
She said she was going to law school so she cant be that dumb unless she is just another actor.
"They are willing to give her as much as 1700$ for a laptop and she bought a laptop for 899$?
Buy the 1700$ LAPTOP ->Sell it unopened for 1400$ easily then go buy the 899$ LAPTOP"
You Do Know They are ACTORS, do you?
Exactly what I was thinking, Yogi. "As goes the mother, so goes the daughter." -Voltaire, or someone wise like that.
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It was removed by the user.
not seeing any video love here..
Need another link?!!
I don't understand why all the criticism when Microsoft shows people with realistic values purchasing computers. The fact is that Apple owns ~10% of the market share for PCs, and the reason for that isn't because they're brainwashed into being stupid. It's because of compatibility with their work. It's because there is a noticable price difference in the store. It's because of personal familiarity with Windows of the users. It's because of gaming. When anyone points out there are reasons not to want to spend more money for a product that doesn't meet their needs adequately, all the Mac fans in the world (ie, the writers and artists of the world) pile out of the wood work and claim that it's a sham. Could it be that most of the PC users in the world just have different values than Mac users? Is that too much to believe?
Except they don't. Generally, it's more like "Apple is an overpriced toy vs. Vista sux."
the only people who bother to comment in these types of posts are fanboys for each side. in other words, you're wasting your breath on ~1% of the computer users.
i'm a graphic designer. ever since i got my vista 64 bit, 8x2.66 GHz, 8 GB, quadro fx 3700 rig, you couldn't pay me to use my mac. actually, i guess i'll still use it for the internets and what-not.
I'm also a graphic designer, and I actually used my head to buy the following:
Intel i7-920- 2.6 GHz
ASUS P6T Deluxe motherboard
Transcend RAM - 10 GB DDR 3 - 1333 BUS (2GB X 5)
GIGABYTE Case "Aluminium" Sumo - Black
FSP Power Supply 800 Watts
GIGABYTE NVIDIA 9800GTX 512 MB DDR DDR3 PCI-E
WD HDD 1 TB SATA -7200 RPM 32MB Cache
Windows Vista U 64bit
Microsoft thin Wireless Keyboard and Mouse.
All for about $1700 only!!! I shit you not.
Now tell me, how can anyone talk about any Mac after all of this awesomeness at that price?!
Because to the Mac fanboy (not the general user), they want competition, except if it is competition with an Appe product. They want choice, as long as the only choice is Apple. They want you to Think Different, as long as you think the way Apple does.
Any criticism, any challenge, or pointing out any problems with an Apple product and it sends them into a tailspin.
If you do criticize, then you are just not enlightened like they are (see any of Paul's posts).
If you do challenge, such as with the Zune, then you are just copying everything Apple has ever done (see any of Jubei's posts).
If you show a flaw, it is not Apple's fault, it is because you are an idiot and too stupid to know how to use the offering made by Apple and it is your fault (see any of Zak's posts).
To a Microsoft user, we know it is not perfect. We will admit to flaws, mistakes, imperfections, and downright stupid things they have done. But to the other side, they criticize Microsoft for those problems (and often, those criticisms are valid) but when Apple does the same exact thing, eh, it is OK, because Apple did it. Some examples are:
Drivers missing from Vista - the OS is a failure. Drivers missing from Leopard (search for missing HP printer drivers) - why would you want to use a 4 year old printer?
Vista puts up a UAC dialog when trying to modify protected data areas or install software - the OS is a failure. OS X puts up a similar dialog - it is there to protect the user.
Microsoft puts content DRM support in their code - the code is a failure. Apple has content protection in their code - it is there to allow more people to download meida they want.
Microsoft puts out a commercial saying that Windows computers are cheaper than Apple computers - how dare they. Apple has commercial after commercial attacking Microsoft, sometimes lying, sometimes showing flaws in Microsoft products when Apple has those same problems, sometimes saying one thing when it is Apple that does it (remember the disclaimer ad from Apple, how many disclaimers do you see in a Microsoft ad, how many do you see in an iPhone commercial) - Yeah! Stick it to them Apple, they deserve to be dragged through the mud.
And so that is why there is so much criticism.
I don't know how you designers can use Vista.
My agency would never allow that.
Here's to the imperfect ones.
The invisible.
The less-fortunate.
Those that make do with what they have.
Valuing substance over appearance.
The ones who embrace options.
They're not fond of restrictions.
And they have no respect for the latest trends.
You can praise them, disagree with them, quote them, disbelieve them, glorify or vilify them.
About the only thing you can't do is ignore them.
Because they make things possible.
They take risks. They cheat. They make opportunites.
They attempt dangerous things. They flirt with failure. They try what others don't.
They find the way forward.
Maybe they have to be imperfect.
@Saad Rabia
I really hate to burst your bubble but if you had used your head to buy that then you would have realized that 10gb's of ram will not work with an i7 processor because it requires triple channel memory. 3, 6, 12, or 24gb's.
Also while it does cost more for a mac pro you have to keep in mind that the mac pro has 2 server grade i7 processors in it along with a damn sexy case and has better software support for graphic designers and movie makers.
@everyone 1080p on a laptop isn't important. The screen is so small that you will never notice the extra resolution for watching movies. if you are doing something that needs a lot on the screen at once get a desktop.
@cosmo you make some valid points. You point out apples defensiveness about the Eula, there are 2 reasons they are like that. 1. so they can sell hardware. 2.It keeps quality of user experience consistent and makes it easier for their engineers to write solid code. When Microsoft makes windows they have to have it be fully compatible with 100's of motherboards, 100's of graphics cards, 100's of sound cards, 100's of processors, 100's of dvd drives, where as Apple only has 10 processors 10 motherboards, 10 graphics cards, and 10 sound cards they have to support so it is much easier for them to write good software that takes full advantage of the hardware and has as few hardware based vulnerabilities as possible.
lack of bluray is kinda annoying, so is hdmi, but I understand why they don't do both. bluray cuts into their sale and rental of hd movies on itunes which they feel is going to win over bluray because of the easy of use and the speed of the internet. and no hdmi allows them to sell adapters so that if a user wants to use a non apple external monitor then they still have to pay a little money to apple. greedy I know, but it's how they do it. Also 99% of users don't care for those sort of things. In my experience most people only use usb ports and don't feel comfortable with the other ports because they don't know what they do.
also for the record I am not a mac fan boy. I several windows pc's but for laptops I feel that the build quality of apples is worth the extra money. I just purchased a 15" macbook pro(refurbished so it didn't cost as much) and a i7 desktop. I am all about quality of my computing experience and I just find windows laptops to be clunky poorly designed and they tend to run slower even with faster hardware. My macbook pro boots from off to usable in 20 seconds. I have never seen a windows laptop 100% usable in under 30. I think that everyone should buy a mac laptop and return it after a week and see if they still feel the same way about their windows laptop.,
@Robert Harrold:
you what?
The truth. Most people still use Windows because of three reasons.
Price.
Not having to learn a new system.
Compatibility with a wide array of software including games.