VAIO P gets whole new lease on life with Atom Z550 processor, SSD and WiMAX
By Paul Miller 
posted Jun 13th 2009 10:50PM
posted Jun 13th 2009 10:50PM
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ive still never seen one fit into a pocket.
try wearing a xxxxxl jeans
i have. Even tried one in my jeans pocket.
thats what she said..........
someone was going to do it
Ok, now it's a really fantastic "netbook".
Atom Z550 is a 2ghz proc! NICE!
It will fit nicely into a purse.
More like whyyymax...
It's still a single core, in order processor. No thanks.
Pfft you can just sew your own pocket thats big enough.
This is kind of an interesting ad by Sony. Contrived, yes, but still interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lw0HIIguKE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdK2vF54I7c
I still think it is to small.
This is kind of an interesting ad by Sony. Contrived, yes, but still interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lw0HIIguKE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdK2vF54I7c
I still think it is to small. More that the screen is too long for its height.
"We'd be jealous if only we lived under 1,000 miles from the nearest WiMAX signal."
How far away is NYC from Baltimore anyway?
I can tell you it's not 1000 miles
About 200 miles. I'm not sure where he got 1000...... :?
i think he meant the nearest Japanese WiMax
No, I think he purposely exaggerated it because whether it's 200 or 1000, what's the difference? wimax is only available to a sliver of the US population at the moment.
You guys are far too forgiving, or I'm on a cusade... but I think it was a lapse in memory. The statement was meant to exaggerate, obviously, but they forgot Baltimore has WiMax. I know I did.
The device is still far too wide and far too short. The display is like one of those found on those single line word processing type-writer replacement machines I was fortunate enough to use in the 80's... man that sucked. I will never buy a laptop / netbook / electronic device that has a 16:1 screen ratio (yes, I am exaggerating). The horizon is just not that important. I should know, I have 2 24" monitors in span mode now, and that's a literal pain in the neck. 44" of screen x 14" is a little too disproportionate and so is this monstrosity. I've decided that dual monitor configurations just should not be comprised of wide format displays... the only kind available now. :( Dual monitor configurations should be made with 4:3 ratio screens. Otherwise, it's just too friggin wide. And so is this lil bastard. Yuck.
Yes, monitors ARE too wide! I have to laugh every time I'm in a meeting where some document is posted on a big screen, and still no one can read it because the page is a vertical band in the middle of a mostly-empty the screen. Wide monitors are a scam in that a 24" wide screen uses less glass than a 24" 4:3 monitor, so they cost less to make. It like when Nabisco quietly reduces the amount of crackers in a box - you don't realized you're getting ripped off. Manufacturers should have to designate monitors by screen area, or at least some makers should recognize that the best screen shape for movies is not the same as the best shape for work.
you are entirely missing the point of widescreen monitors. I use two 16:9s (24" and 23"; the 23" is actually the higher res at 2048x1152) and will generally have a browser & AIM on one, 3-4 screens of code on the other. It's for multitasking, not for looking at a single word doc. 4:3 is less optimal than a single 16:9 because documents are rarely wider than they are tall, and if you split it in the middle to look at two things at once you don't have enough horizontal space left over. While the move from 16:10 to 16:9 could be said to be motivated by cutting down costs (it could also be said to be an industry standard as defined by content makers and not display producers), the switch from 4:3 to 16:9 was for many good reasons, including that it's easier to look side to side than up and down. 5:4 monitors are closer to square than 4:3 but they aren't clamored for because a square monitor isn't easy to partition into multiple workspaces.
/rant.
John,
I know, I've had dual monitors for probably 12 or so years. Your usage pattern is different from mine. I use them for 1 application with various pallettes, and Help files / tutorials, extra web browsers.... Multi tasking as well as uni tasking.
My point wasn't that I was spanning a single document across the screens, the point was that there wasn't enough Vertical information to go along with the Horizontal information, plus, regardless of what information is on each display, I find 2 monitors at 24" each to be too wide. Not every application benefits from a predominantly horizontal format... and I know I can rotate the monitor for a vertical orientation so I could work on a skyscraper if I want.
I use it for 3dsmax, so the main workspace is on the left and tool panels are on the right. I use it for Photoshop so main window is on the left and the tools are on the right. I use it for multiple documents at the same time, many on each screen. I use it for Indesign, split workspace. I use it for Sonar, split workspace. All of that still leaves me with the same feeling... 2 20" monitors in a 4:3 ratio would probably please me more than the 24" monitors. However, I'm used to my monitors enough that I will not replace them soon. They're the original 2407 Dell's and they work great otherwise.
Regardless, I do not want a machine that has a screen that's almost 3:1.
to the guy whining about word documents on a widescreen: flip that mutha to portait!
I have dual wides now... at first I thought it was too wide, but now i think it's way better than two 4:3s. I'm still using sqaure shaped windows for most things (browsers) then filling in the extra space with msn, sidebar/gadgets etc.
That is the best "couch computer" in the world. The best for checking stuff while watching TV.
a little too small and too expensive for that purpose.
too expensive? maybe.
too small? I guess you haven't had some hands-on time with a vaio p yet.
I'm...I dunno, I guess 'dumbfounded' could describe it when it comes to the ergonomics of the vaio p.
By all means that thing should be a PITA to work with, but it isn't. Really impressive.
My Nokia N800 was perfect for that sort of thing. The pages load a bit slow with MicroB but once I put a WebKit browser on there it was great.
Too expensive is your problem, but too small is no such thing for a couch computer.
This thing with its trackpoint and 1.4lb weight even beats my Thinkpad X200s for the purpose. I generally hate Sony computers, but this one has me giving credit where credit is due.
N800/810 etc. is okay also, but nowhere near as powerful as having a whole Win 7 machine around. Access to my homeserver and control over anything in my network. I want one.
I dunno there little rubber mouse thing feels odd I dunno but I think I would've preferred a scroll ball like on BB's but obviously much more sensitive.
Clit sticks have been around for ages. I love em.
What an awesome netbook!
Oh shoot! Sorry Sony...
Can you please refer to processors by their specs and not by their model number? It gets confusing, especially since there's more than just N270 now.
I am SO getting this when I start charging my kids rent.
Everyone's a winner baby.
I know it is small, but surely it could house a 45nm Core solo CULV @1.4Ghz, right? The CPU has a 5 watt TDP. Couple it with Nvidia ION, and we have a deal!
And drop the price from $1899 AUD to maybe $1399...or am I asking to much =/
I'm not touching a netbook until ION comes out.
b/c you want to play Crysis on it and watch HD movies?
I just don't get why manufacturers aren't even using the 2 GHz Atom for netbooks.
Because of the MS requirements. If it's over a certain spec level then it has to run Vista, which would be really bad on a 2GHz atom and 2GB of ram and awful integrated graphics. Of course, this does run Vista already, so????
Not a bad product
Still no ION based graphics? For get that...IGP sucks.
Is it a nipple or a clitoris???
No, It's a really small computer.
Meh, they both have a button that turns it on. >:D
waaaaaaaaaaay
Ugh i got my hopes up.
This is that Japanese-only upgrade that was posted a while back? I would LOVE to have 2GHz and 256GB SSD; I'm sure everyone else would too. I have fantasies of this thing sitting in my lap with a 360 controller in it playing Super Metroid. *drool*
:(
OMG, I just had a nerdgasm.
Does it come with magnifying spectacles?
Seriously, running a desktop UI on a pocket-sized screen is beyond pointless.
Someone should put Sony's engineers back in the gimp-box and stop them running around, off the leash as if they know what they are doing. Stop it. Stop it right now and put some designers in charge, who have, at some point in their lives, have had personal knowledge with a real life clue.
C.
The P series isn't a netbook because the netbook is coming out later this year.
Oh, and the US version of the P will only have the Z540 as tops for now.
And in Europe the dam thing hasn't even been launched yet. None of the models. Latest news is June - And that shit has almost left to.. sweet
The VAIO P has been widely available in UK for a long time, eg just pop into a John Lewis store. Maybe you don't get out much.
The only viable netbook available right now since it comes with a trackpoint nib rather than a horrid and space wasting trackpad. If I were to ever buy a netbook for portability, this would be at the top of my list.
Yeah, trackpoint is the only way to go. Touchpads are for people who don't know better.
I live in Portland...Wimax is great. Hmmm...this would be a pretty sweet thing...
The sad truth about this is that the inside sucks. the screen is small that u have to scroll down to see the start menu then scroll on the browser to see what youre reading on top of what I just mentioned.
Go demo it out at best buy/ frys.
Oh, good, benchmarks so I feel better about paying *even more* for the Japanese 1.86GHz Atom + SSD model.
The screen is 768 pixels high, more than a lot of netbooks. So if you use Windows 7's easy left/right window docking feature, you can get two 800x768 (minus the Task Bar height) browser windows. The resolution is still really fine, though, so I crank up the Windows system DPI and use full-page zoom in my browser (they all support it now).