HP Mini 5101 cleans up nice, shows the serious side of netbooks
Just when you thought you were safe from the netbook horde, along comes HP's new Mini 5101 to tempt you with the same basic specs once again, but this time with a slick aluminum and magnesium chassis to appeal to the "mobile professional" or anyone else with a bit of class. In a crazy twist, HP has finally moved the mouse buttons below the trackpad (because only professionals like clicking), and has included other perks like a 7200 RPM hard drive, Bluetooth 2.0, 2 megapixel webcam, and options of either a WSVGA (1024 x 600) or "HD" (1366 x 768) 10.1-inch LED screen. There are also options for 80GB or 128GB SSD drives, four-cell or six-cell batteries, with the latter rated at an improbable eight hours of runtime, and of course WWAN. There's a start price of $449, but with some of these options we could see that shooting up pretty fast -- especially if you pick the optional USB-powered external disc drive, external speakers or port replicator. It's not cheap being cheap. The Mini 5101 goes on sale in July.
We got a quick hands-on with the netbook, and were fairly impressed. The square chiclet keys are much easier to hunt down than Mini 1000-series flush keys, and the proper trackpad configuration is naturally a huge bonus. We'd much prefer multitouch scrolling to the side-scrolling action, of course, but at least it's an improvement. The overall build quality is near the top of any laptop or netbook we've played with in this price range -- it's not perfect, and there's some of that telltale keyboard flex, but it's a big improvement over its largely plastic competitors and predecessor.
We got a quick hands-on with the netbook, and were fairly impressed. The square chiclet keys are much easier to hunt down than Mini 1000-series flush keys, and the proper trackpad configuration is naturally a huge bonus. We'd much prefer multitouch scrolling to the side-scrolling action, of course, but at least it's an improvement. The overall build quality is near the top of any laptop or netbook we've played with in this price range -- it's not perfect, and there's some of that telltale keyboard flex, but it's a big improvement over its largely plastic competitors and predecessor.































the elite book design definately works, I didn't think they could make it look better than the 2140 but this is nice
Does not matter,
According to this article some intelligent loser said Netbooks are crap.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/23/entelligence-netbooks-r-i-p/
The writer of that article could not of been a bigger douche.
The article was absolute sensationalist shit.
I certainly wont be reading anything else he writes.
tonight on: 'missing the point' A1 plumbings best.
I also like the design, nevermind the anti-netbook article from earlier today. I could completely believe an 8 hour runtime with the LED screen option and an efficient SSD under the hood... particularly if you could put some flavor of Linux on it that could be SSD optimized instead of the worst OS possible for a netbook, Vista.
I bet the reason they are shipping Vista instead of something more appropriate is because they are willfully breaking Microsoft's arbitrary hardware limitations for XP on netbooks.
Did the 2140 every actually release the "HD" (1366) screen version? I remember that being promised at launch but to my knowledge it never came out? (i was waiting for that to buy) .
So now this, I think I'll buy one since it has the 1366, LED-backlit screen. I have fine eyesight still, so to me a high resolution is the way to go. It will slot right in nicely between my Dell Mini 9 and my 13-inch Macbook (which actually has lower screen res) :)
Will probably replace my Mini 9 actually, if it's as portable as the Dell.
Yes, but that model is only available from HP's business site. Dell also has an HD option for the mini 10
As much as I admire the whole netbook seen. They have all looked like kids toys up until now.
*scene* frickin' engadget no edit function.
Not sure why this wasn't mentioned by the cpu is a 1.66GHz Intel Atom N280.
HP Mini 5101 RAM upgrade
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imGzpWZOwEc
Anyone know what the required hardware specs are for a netbook to play HD video without stuttering? Intel 950 GMA? 1366 x 768 screen? Which netbooks play HD right now?
Don't know. Would be nice to. No netbooks currently play 720p flash fullscreen without stuttering. Anantech has tested an N330 dual core Ion overclocked to 1.9GHz with an Ion and it still didn't handle 720p flash full screen without frame rate issues.
It appears that Adobe Flash doesn't support any meaningful GPU offload, so the GPU is irrelevant right now. We'll see if this changes in the future.
I ASSUME that thin and lights running Intel's CULV processors can handle full screen flash, but am not sure.
No idea if the new Gateway running a 1.2GHz Athlon can handle HD Flash full screen or not.
Does anybody else feel like engadget has become a netbook blog?
GASP!!!!!! It's like Jessica Alba in computer form!
Actually, after looking at the specs, I'm thinking its more like Paris Hilton. Hot on the outside but too slow to do anything productive with.
I think you're giving Paris Hilton too much credit. I'd say that Hayden Panettiere better applies to that analogy.
Looks really nice but I am holding off upgrading my 1000HA until we get a netbook that has the option of backlit keyboard.
Who the hell looks at a keyboard?
@Poo_and_Wee
People from whom a netbook can do whatever they do with their computer... people who need to look at the keyboard to type. ;)
Is that a GLOSSY TRACKPAD?
Of all the things to make glossy ...
Crap. That was going to be my snarky comment. It was going to go like this:
Wow! They finally figured out how to make the trackpad glossy too! Great...
It looks like the keyboard area between the keys is glossy too. And wow, it comes with Vista! And look at how well it shows off all the fingerprints!
But honestly that's the one of the mattest laptops out there. Look at some Toshiba Satellites.
at least the screen is matte...
HP TZ?
I thought the same. It looks pretty much like my Sony TZ31
The Vaio TZ's are sexy, better looking than the current TT models in my opinion.
I like the glossy trackpad. Adds a nice contrast.
Looks great...but Vista??? idk....
This means starting June 28th, it will qualify for the free Windows 7 upgrade!
joy joy joy!
Here is a real laptop http://atxelectronics.net/Product.aspx?ProductID=245.
Because of how Sony can be with their drivers, at least in my experience from several years ago, I would never buy a Sony computer. They are well engineered, though.
At a 10.1 inch screen size, I think that the laptop needs to be as light/small as possible, and the 1 inch bezel is NOT helping. Fugly.
+1
The huge bezel makes it look like junk.
It looked nice... and then it looked like it was half bezel. What were they thinking? I'm guessing they can give you the nice package at that price point but not with any larger a screen. Pity.
I love everything about this but the bezel size, and the fact that it's glossy. I'm holding out for something slightly better. I won't go wheelchair!
I just noticed if you compare the older 1000 model with the 10.2in screen they had when it first came to the 10.1in screen it latter got. The bezel on the 10.2in screen looks noticeably a bit smaller. So at the least they could have done is gone with the 10.2in screen they use to put on their netbooks.
This netbook is win, I may need to get this.
No matter how pretty these are I'm still waiting for ION to show up in these puppies.
Looks pretty sweet, I'd definitely be interested in this if I didn't have a 1000HE already... (Which I still like a lot, I just wish the keyboard was a bit better and it wasn't so bulky.)
My god, when will these companies learn. It ain't a business notebook without a fricking TRACKPOINT!!!!!!
I've been waiting for someone to put one onto a netbook, but even when HP is on it's 2nd 'business' netbook they forget the eraser nub. On devices meant for such portability, it is a definately a huge plus to be able to keep your hands on the home row keys and still move the mouse.
Don't you mean third business netbook?
2133
2140
Now this
this thing is seriously gorgeous. i agree with 'shyam' about the trackpoint. after you use one, you really can't stand a touchpad.
That looks like a matte screen in a few of the pix. Sold!
Oh wow, I'd love to get my hands on one of those. That thing looks nice. I hope it'll eventually get the pine-trail atom processors.
Damn.
I have such wood for an Ion netbook right now, I'm about to break.
Seriously, as soon as I can get a netbook with the free Win7 upgrade coupled with Ion, I'm in. I might even give up on hope for a 330, even though it's been demonstrated in a few lesser-known mfg. configurations on this site already.
One week. One week, Justin. One week.
Oh god.
Damn, another netbook, and I'm still trying to make up my mind on which to buy.
Do I spy a matte screen?
does anything not impress engadget these days?
Seems like it has some nice attributes. Have to wait for some reviews of course. Obviously its relatively thin, at least on the bottom (the screen looks a bit thick, but maybe thats just the ridiculous bezel--guess no LED backlit display on this one).
It has a combo eSATA/USB port, and all the ports appear to be in good locations. Good keyboard. Nice trackpad and buttons, though the lack of multi-touch might be a deal breaker.
Presumably the materials will be impressive, though they just look like plastic in the photos, so we'll have to see. Sounds like the magnesium allow might just be on the inside bottom frame, and all the stuff you see is just plastic...
Can't tell what the upgrade options are... no access from the bottom that I can see, other than that what? business card holder?
Sounds like a Gobi-based flexi-WWAN is going to be an option. A mini-PCI card? Something else?
Doesn't say anything about 802.11n so presumably just the usual 802.11b/g. Big deal.
I guess the speakers are arrayed along the front edge? Hard to tell exactly. Hopefully something half-decent.
The four cell might be a nice option. Doesn't say its lithium polymer. So it probably isn't.