We don't know, but it seems like RIM has enlisted a couple more CDMA engineers because the gap between new devices launching on GSM and then making their way to CDMA has been getting noticeably smaller over time. The BlackBerry Curve 8520 was
launched on T-Mobile only a few short months ago, and it's already made its way to both Verizon and Sprint. It's not the same powerhouse as its older sibling the Tour, but this device packs a heck of a lot of punch into a very pocketable package. Read past the break for our extended impressions.
Design & Build
The 8530 has a very sleek look to it, and it kind of reminds us of the Pre or
PEBL with the rounded nature and lack of hard edges. It's not as "professional" feeling as the Tour, and we missed the soft-touch rubber surfaces and the shiny chrome accents. However, the Curve product line has always been more low-end than the Bold and Tour line, so we're not going to complain.
The convenience keys and media control buttons along the sides and top of the phone seemed a bit cheap to us. Rather than being actual buttons detached from the main housing, they're built into it and don't have much feel. We do like the dedicated media keys up top, and think they're much more useful than the mute and lock buttons that you find on most other modern BlackBerrys.
The keyboard, of course, is where BlackBerrys usually shine -- but after getting accustomed to the keyboards on the Bold, Tour, and 9700, we're a bit underwhelmed by the 8530's offering. It's essentially the same keyboard as on the original Curve (and all its subsequent variants), which means that the buttons are tactile and clicky, but a bit hard to type on. We know people who swear by the Curve keyboard, but for the most part, we prefer the mushiness of the keyboards found on the Tour and Bold.

Much like the phasing out of the original thumbwheel, we're sensing that the end is near for the trackball as optical trackpads find their way into more models; the change is a point of contention for many a BlackBerry diehard, and we have to admit that it takes a bit of getting used to. The trackpad seems unnatural to use at first, but after a few hours of playing with it, we can see that it's a superior input method. Whereas trackballs have an uncanny knack for breaking, the optical alternative doesn't have the same moving parts so it's a much safer bet. We don't like the four navigation buttons around the optical trackpad, however, and find them hard to press and the uneven backlighting is a bit frustrating. They look like they'd be touch sensitive like the buttons found on the new Storm2, but they're actually physical buttons that take a bit of effort to use.
Software
Depending on how you look at it, the BlackBerry OS can be seen as a strong point of consistency or an indication of just how little RIM is doing to advance the platform. Most of the BlackBerry models on the market today offer up a nearly identical user experience -- the only real variation being the Storm and Storm2, and even they carry over as many classic BlackBerry UI elements as they possibly can. The 8530 model we received came preloaded with OS 5.0.0.337, which means that it's on OS 5.0 -- the latest OS version RIM has released, which really isn't all that different from 4.5.
The browser is nearly identical to the one present on the Tour, as is much of the rest of the OS. The addition of WiFi, however, is a welcome one. The lack of 802.11 in the original Tour is still something we're appalled by, but we're glad to see Verizon (and Sprint) coming through on their promises to include the requisite radios on all smartphones moving forward.
Interestingly, the new
BlackBerry Messenger 5 isn't included in the shipping firmware version, but it's easily added through a quick download from BlackBerry App World. Also, Google Maps
still doesn't work properly with GPS, so you can get a location through triangulation but you won't get one through the GPS chip in the device. It works with the native Maps application, but as BlackBerry users already know all too well, that doesn't pack as much functionality as Google Maps does.
Our Verizon-branded unit also came with icons for Verizon apps such as VZ Navigator and V CAST Song ID, although you'll have to pay extra on your plan for that action.
Comparisons
Left to right: 8530 Curve, 9630 Tour
To put the 8530 in context, we're gonna break it down against the Tour -- its closest competitor in the CDMA BlackBerry space -- as well as the 8520, its GSM counterpart. The most damning mark against the GSM 8520, of course, is the lack of 3G -- likely a cost-saving move that ends up making a virtually identical phone look way cheaper on paper. By contrast, you've got full EV-DO Rev. A on the 8530 -- a
huge difference that pretty conclusively gives the 8530 the upper hand, carrier preferences aside. The differences against the Tour, though... well, that's another story altogether. While the 8530 packs both WiFi
and that hot new optical trackpad, it lacks the world-roaming capabilities of the Tour and uses a different keyboard style that some users might prefer. Oh, and here's a big one: the 8530 disappointingly sticks with RIM's older QVGA resolution, which makes a huge difference; the Bold and the higher-end BlackBerrys that have come after it set a benchmark for the way a portrait QWERTY display should look, and the 8530 just doesn't live up to that standard.
Wrap-up
We love the Curve and the Tour, but we're having trouble understanding the relationship between the two devices. For a supposedly "low end" device, the Curve 8530 packs many "high end" features that the Tour lacks. We're expecting this to be remedied when RIM and the carriers finally decide to launch (or even announce) the Tour2, which should bring WiFi and the optical trackpad to the original Tour form factor. For now though, we're going to stick with the Tour over the Curve. The international roaming capabilities and better keyboard are enough to keep us from switching, although the WiFi would be convenient. When choosing which device is right for you, it really comes down to a matter of what's more important: international global roaming and a better keyboard or a slightly smaller package with WiFi and an optical trackpad -- assuming, naturally, that you're brave enough to deal with a QVGA display here in the year 2009.
blackberries are just meh. get a droid instead.
@AndroidRokz meh, i love my Bold 9700 coming from my 3GS. Especially cuz i'm off ATT lol
@KI2594 The phone looks & feels great, but has some deficiencies (i.e., no flash, poor battery life, poor screen resolution). The upside? The trackpad is a great touch and WiFi is long overdue. This is a decent entry level phone, but there are much better BlackBerrys out there for a few dollars more: http://bit.ly/blackberry-8530-verdict
"Also, Google Maps still doesn't work properly with GPS, so you can get a location through triangulation but you won't get one through the GPS chip in the device. It works with the native Maps application, but as BlackBerry users already know all too well, that doesn't pack as much functionality as Google Maps does."
Is this something limited to Blackberries other that the Bold. GPS works on my Bold's Google Maps
@RedGhost
Hmm, I don't know. First time I've heard of this. Google Maps works flawlessly with GPS on my Tour, though.
@RedGhost
i have no problems with GPS on my tour either
Wake me up when December ends... I really want to see some innovation somewhere... we need some WOW factor... now even the iPhone looks old ( that is how technology has made us: spoiled brats wanting more and more faster and faster :P )
P.S: The white BB looks pretty cool though.
Well, it looks good...
this phone could be trash-like the 83xx before it, it'll still sell like hot cake
@artshark WTF? I've owned a fair few BBs, and my 8310 was a great device.
@artshark I wouldn't call this phone trash... It is a bit underwhelming though, but that is the point. It is a low end blackberry, designed to be cheap. And for $100 ($50 on sprint), it is a pretty good deal compared to some of the high end feature phones it will be competing with.
It's not that Google Maps "doesn't work" with the GPS chip in the 8530, it's that Verizon has blocked it in the firmware. They enabled the BB Maps to work just about a year ago to prevent lawsuits. Like other carriers, they're trying to force customers to pay for extra cost services, in this case turn-by-turn navigation, when everything needed is built-in and offered free (Google). Which makes it even more surprising that GMN slipped through, although Google probably has a lot more leverage with V than does RIM.
This and the crappy reception where I live (25 miles outside Chicago), along with several lies told by Verizon company and sub-contracted stores, were the reasons I left Verizon and will never return.
I just used an 8530 the other week. It was great, except for the screen. It just seem so bad looking compared to a Tour or 9700 (or 9000) screen. I was not impressed.
But can you play cards with it?
@Jon Rubinsteine
There is a PRE for that!
@Jon Rubinsteine sure, it comes with solitaire :)
@codemaker
no it doesn't, it comes with Klondike.
The 8530's screen still looks like shit compared to the Bold/Tour/Storm's.
It feels light and cheap but it's supposed to replace the cheap Curve 83xx so no surprise there.
I wasn't impressed at all but for the money it's a solid buy considering the new track pad and the WiFi.
I just can't get over the low end LCD. Bold 9000 FTW
Found another good review of the new Curve here:
http://cellphoneforums.net/cell-phone-reviews/t305514-blackberry-curve-8530-review.html
i have this phone, and i hate it, screen is bad, texting just recently started to turn sluggish...and it gets really dirty....gunna switch it up for a 9700
@Dannyd534 If you can afford a 9700, you are not the target audience for this phone.
Other than some minor changes here and there (like trackpad instead of trackball), have they really changed anything in the newer models? All BB models other than Storm look so similar ... I understand 3/4 models with various combination of GPS, WiFi and/or 3G etc, but so many???
@Rex All iPhone models look similar but you don't see anyone complaining.
The so many models are partially because of GSM 2100/GSM 1700/CDMA difference. After you've picked a carrier, you have a choice of perhaps 2-3 BBs in some range of colours, and the features you want dictate the price range.
I thought the Curve 2 was EVDO Rev. 0, not Rev. A as this article states?
@err
you are right. The reason I'll get the tour instead of this.
Verizon's site says
Dual–band 800/1900 MHz CDMA/EV–DO Rev 0 networks
@jbgadget Yea, that really threw me off too....I was actually considering the 8530 for a min too :\
Who's chair is that? Who put that goddamn chair here? It's not my chair. Not my chair, not my problem, that's what I say. No way. Stupid dresses. Stupid flowers.
@Accidental
Yea right. Get real.
I just really like my tour. And what is up with the random, off-topic comments, people? Strange.
How is international global roaming such an important factor?
If it's a huge factor for you, you're probably using a BlackBerry that your company gave you, and you probably had zero say in the specific model.
Doesn't international roaming/data cost bazillions of dollars? Wouldn't the average Joe who's traveling for pleasure (or budget-savvy small businessman) be much better off buying a prepaid phone over there?
@crawdad689 actually, MY company lets me have pretty much whatever phone I want, that is supported. They pay the data (I am pretty sure you have to have either AT&T or Verizon though), and not the voice plan. When I go overseas, they still pay my data, as long as I have an international package.
So, I would care about international roaming. Of course, being on AT&T, any phone I choose has international roaming abilities...
RIM makes the best portrait QWERTYs, which is why I wish I could dual boot the Curve or the Tour with Android. For web browsing, email, and texting I'll have Blackberry 5.0, and for my apps and my navigation I'll have Android 2.1.
Perfect situation no?
@kenny goo if you ever get a dual boot that would be slick! Good idea though it would take some serious work and effort. I have been a BlackBerry lifer but I am tiring of the UI when I compare it to what HTC has out there for WinMO and Android OS.
@kingfish
Modders have been working on stuff like this the last few years and have actually got some stuff working on the iPhone and some WinMo phones. Nothing consumer level though.
Then again, I'd be happy with *any* OS upgrade over my LG Voyager at this point, lol. The Palm Pre, Blackberry Tour/Curve, and Moto Droid are all looking pretty good at this point. (I'm on Verizon and I need a QWERTY).
"the Bold and the higher-end BlackBerrys that have come after it set a benchmark for the way a portrait QWERTY display should look"
They look like landscape displays to me.
@reidme They mean a portrait device, not screen. Example of a device with a landscape keyboard would be an Android G1.
@PaulMdx
My point exactly. The display is neither portrait nor QWERTY, so "a portrait QWERTY display" is quite the misnomer.
@reidme
Display is a reference to the display and layout of the handset. Display isn't a synonym for screen in this situation.
@kenny goo
"Oh, and here's a big one: the 8530 disappointingly sticks with RIM's older QVGA resolution, which makes a huge difference; the Bold and the higher-end BlackBerrys that have come after it set a benchmark for the way a portrait QWERTY display should look, and the 8530 just doesn't live up to that standard."
Sure sounds like he's talking about the screen to me, but whatever... I'm done nit-picking.
I like my 8530 much more than my wife's Tour. Nice size and weight, much better than the Tour if you are keeping in a shirt or pants pocket instead of a holster.
@doctord tour is better, though, with a higher res screen, etc., only lacking wifi and trackpad
I have a compelling urge to not just book it, but Thomas Cook it...
...each time I look she disappears!!
Massive Engadget review fail. This phone doesn't have EVDO Rev. A. More crappy reporting.
I had one for a couple days, and it just felt cheap to me. I had a 8330 and an iPhone before this and the 8530 just didn't feel like it would last the 2 years until I can get another one. Wifi and optical were nice, but lack of 3G and the screen resolution were major drawbacks. Nice phone, just not for me.
Traded up to a Tour and have been extremely happy.
@gklarson the 8530 does have 3G. Evdo rev 0, but still 3G. I'm with you on the screen resolution though. And the camera (which was not mentioned in the article). Personally, I am waiting for the tour2.
Damn, the white Bold is sexy.
Good write-up Jacob, it's always good to see you on your Engadget grind!
@awgeerowz that is a white tour.
@codemaker
/facepalm
Of course it's a 9630, it must be time for more caffeine.
None the less, the white Bold is pretty sexy :)
No mention of the 2mp camera on the 8530 (no autofocus or flash) vs the 3.2mp cam with autofocus and led flash on the tour.
@codemaker one more thing. OS 5.0 has some significant differences from and improvements over OS 4.5. Sure the basic layout of the OS is the same, but the browser on 5.0 is way better (especially when javascript is involved), app integration is better, threaded/chat style sms is supported, and there have been some UI enhancements. Perhaps these things are only obvious to blackberry addicts like myself...
The differences between OS 4.6/4.7 and 5.0 are less significant.