Nokia phones will still Come with Music, only stores see rebranding
By Sean Hollister 
posted March 27th 2010 9:59AM
posted March 27th 2010 9:59AM
posted March 27th 2010 9:59AM
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Honestly, has anyone ever felt anything other than a bit weirded out by this whole CWM thing? I would delete the songs as soon as I got it probably. I feel Nokia could put their energies in a much better area. Just my two cents.
@The Dead Marxist Trio
My 2 Cents: You have no idea what CWM means. Has nothing to do with preinstalled music...
That's what she said...?
as long as my iTunes goes fine, who cares whatever ovi.
but, it's always good the see change, right? Yeah, I mean, "change".
Hey Engadget,
Maybe if you quit whining about it and petitioned the major labels who actually impose DRM upon commercial music services, then that might help hasten DRMs inevitable end...
Just a thought... Try something proactive for once.
Cant agree with that, I think CWM is great. The all you can eat music idea means you can try new music out all the time, and seeing the cost is included in the phone, it seems really cheap too considering here in europe phones are almost always free on contract.
Im pretty sure I'll make my next phone a CWM one.
i was never a fan of the name personally, just doesn't roll off the tongue but the service sounds like it's pretty good. doesn't really matter what they call it if the service is good i guess.
@SoCoolCurt But it rolls around with Nokia's music tongue....
I totally don't understand why DRM on CWM is bad... why not pay-per song then? you can still buy music in iTS, DRM-free. or just get CDs from Amazon.
I just hate those colors in the Comes With Music logo. Too festive.
Such a stupid name...
Ovi is not much better but it's simple, to the point, and unique.
I'm not bothered by the CWM name, I'm bothered that Nokia have f**ked up the marketing of the product.
In principle it's fine but it's an example of something designed by a committee if ever there was one.
Comes with Music LOL. Okay now that I've gotten my mind out of the gutter: I think it is a pretty good idea to have a consistency in naming their services. It fits in with the Ovi Mail, Ovi Store etc. so I think it is a good thing.
"We'd prefer if Nokia made a more ballsy move -- like discontinuing their service's most controversial feature, Comes with DRM."
How is it controversial? Can you name me an unlimited music service that *doesn't* have DRM?
How would an unlimited music service function without DRM? How do you stop people keeping the music once their subscription runs out?
@xbit: Exactly. Music subscription services, at least legal ones, kinda need DRM to function because they're usually unlimited music for you to rent for awhile, not keep. I like the Zune Pass better, in how even if you don't get to keep all your music you've downloaded, you do get to pick 10 DRM-FREE songs to keep for sure, in that it's really yours.
I guess the Engadget staff isn't too familiar with music subscription services.
@xbit
You actually keep the music even after the subscription ends.
@aubreyq "I just hate those colors in the Comes With Music logo. Too festive." As opposed to iPhone's coffin standard colors?
The main problem with CWM is that it's a licensing scheme that is way too complex for the average person to fully understand. That Nokia has never bothered explaining it in detail obviously hasn't helped matters either.
Subscriptions are easily understood: you get all the music you want as long as you continue paying $x/month; when you stop paying, your music disappear. Simple. Buying DRM-free tracks is also easily understood.
With CWM, you can download all the music you want for 1yr. After 1yr, you cannot download new tracks anymore, but Nokia says you can keep the music you've downloaded. However when you change phone and/or the (single!) computer you registered with CWM, you lose your music anyway. Unless, of course, you buy another CWM phone from Nokia.
To make things even more complex, and to make a cost comparison with music subscriptions impossible, there's the fact that the amount of $ that CWM adds to a phone (i.e. the difference between the price of the CWM and the non-CWM variants of the same phone) is variable and depends on the specific handset considered.
If that wasn't messy enough, there's the other fun fact that CWM is not offered for all Nokia smartphones, but only for selected models. So when CWM on your phone expires after 1yr, even if you decide to get another Nokia phone, there's no guarantee that the one you'll want will be offered with CWM.
@rav97
I have a solution -- pirate bay. lulz.