New Mitsubishi 3D DLPs arrive for 2010, is this the mysterious StreamTV?
By Richard Lawler 
posted April 8th 2010 12:39PM
posted April 8th 2010 12:39PM
Mitsubishi Digital Electronics America Announces Its 2010 Large Screen 3D DLP Home Cinema TVs
New Immersive Sound Technology and Streaming Internet Media Bolster 3D TV Experience
IRVINE, Calif. --(Business Wire)-- Apr 08, 2010 Mitsubishi Digital Electronics America, Inc. (MDEA) today announced its 2010 line-up of large screen 3D1 DLP® Home Cinema TVs, which integrate 16-speaker 5.1 channel Dolby® Digital surround sound and internet media streaming capability, delivering the ultimate 3D home entertainment experience. Offering the most 3D TVs in the industry, MDEA brings an unparalleled, immersive 3D experience home with its cinema-like 60, 65, 73 and mammoth 82-inch screen sizes.
MDEA has been selling 3D-ready TVs since 2007, was the first to demonstrate 3D TV at retail, and has been showcasing 3D directly to consumers for over two years running. The 2010 line-up represents the fourth generation of 3D-ready TVs from MDEA. Its large screen 3D DLP Home Cinema TVs utilize the same core DLP technology that is used in the vast majority of 3D movie theaters. DLP technology is up to 1,000 times faster than LCD technology, providing for a more realistic, sharper 2D and 3D viewing experience.
"3D is a large screen, immersive experience, and we're proud to offer consumers the most affordable line-up of 3D TVs available today, in cinema-like 60, 65, 73, and 82-inch screen sizes," said Max Wasinger, executive vice president of sales and marketing, Mitsubishi Digital Electronics America. "3D represents the highest level and most advanced form of home entertainment, and we clearly see our 3D DLP Home Cinema TVs playing a key role in meeting consumers craving for the best, most advanced 3D home theater experience."
Ultimate in Home Entertainment
Significant, new feature enhancements for 2010 3D DLP Home Cinema TVs include StreamTV™ Internet Media and Immersive Sound Technology. StreamTV™ enables instant access to an extensive library of high quality entertainment and social media content, featuring over 100 different applications including Vudu movies, Pandora, Flickr, Picasa, Facebook, Associated Press, The New York Times and more.
The newly integrated Immersive Sound Technology utilizes a 16-speaker 5.1 channel Dolby® Digital surround sound system to deliver perfectly balanced home theater audio, without the need for separate components. Diamond 838 models of MDEA 3D DLP Home Cinema TVs now join 3D sound with a brilliant 3D picture, for the ultimate in home entertainment.
All 638, 738, and Diamond 838 series 3D DLP Home Cinema TV models for 2010 include 3D DLP Link, Brilliant/Bright/Natural and Game Modes, Plush 1080p, 3 HDMI with CEC, HDMI-PC Compatibility, 2 Component/Composite Video Inputs, and MDEA's exclusive 6-Color Processor™ which provides significantly more color reproduction than typical flat panel TVs.
The MDEA 738 series is available in 60, 65, 73, and 82-inch screen sizes, and offers StreamTV™ Internet Media, USB Wireless N Network Adapter Compatibility, Plush 1080p 5G 12-bit Video processor, Smooth120, EdgeEnhance™, DeepField Imager™, Advanced Video Calibration, and Universal Remote Control.
MDEA's Diamond 838 series boasts three premium 3D DLP Home Cinema TVs in 65, 73, and 82-inch screen sizes. In addition to all features within the 638 and 738 series, each Diamond model includes 16-Speaker Immersive Sound Technology with 32W total system power, Bluetooth® A2DP Audio Streaming, Center Channel Mode, Surround Channel Outputs, Subwoofer Output, Dark Detailer, PerfectColor™, PerfecTint™, ISFccc® Advanced Video Adjustments, 4 HDMI with CEC, NetCommand, and Wired IR Input.
"With the advent of the unprecedented box office success of 3D feature films such as Avatar and Alice in Wonderland, it is clear that consumers have fully embraced the large screen 3D experience," said Frank DeMartin, vice president of marketing, Mitsubishi Digital Electronics America. "The thrill of 3D is to feel as though you are a part of the action, and our mammoth 82-inch 3D DLP Home Cinema TV delivers that immersive experience in the home by featuring three to four times the viewing area of a small screen 46-inch flat panel 3D TV."
Availability and Suggested Retail Pricing
638 Series
WD-60638 - $1,199.00 WD-65638 - $1,499.00 WD-73638 - $1,999.00
738 Series
WD-60738 - $1,399.00 WD-65738 - $1,799.00 WD-73738 - $2,399.00
WD-82738 - $3,799.00
838 Series
WD-65838 - $2,199.00 WD-73838 - $2,799.00 WD-82838 - $4,499.00
New Immersive Sound Technology and Streaming Internet Media Bolster 3D TV Experience
IRVINE, Calif. --(Business Wire)-- Apr 08, 2010 Mitsubishi Digital Electronics America, Inc. (MDEA) today announced its 2010 line-up of large screen 3D1 DLP® Home Cinema TVs, which integrate 16-speaker 5.1 channel Dolby® Digital surround sound and internet media streaming capability, delivering the ultimate 3D home entertainment experience. Offering the most 3D TVs in the industry, MDEA brings an unparalleled, immersive 3D experience home with its cinema-like 60, 65, 73 and mammoth 82-inch screen sizes.
MDEA has been selling 3D-ready TVs since 2007, was the first to demonstrate 3D TV at retail, and has been showcasing 3D directly to consumers for over two years running. The 2010 line-up represents the fourth generation of 3D-ready TVs from MDEA. Its large screen 3D DLP Home Cinema TVs utilize the same core DLP technology that is used in the vast majority of 3D movie theaters. DLP technology is up to 1,000 times faster than LCD technology, providing for a more realistic, sharper 2D and 3D viewing experience.
"3D is a large screen, immersive experience, and we're proud to offer consumers the most affordable line-up of 3D TVs available today, in cinema-like 60, 65, 73, and 82-inch screen sizes," said Max Wasinger, executive vice president of sales and marketing, Mitsubishi Digital Electronics America. "3D represents the highest level and most advanced form of home entertainment, and we clearly see our 3D DLP Home Cinema TVs playing a key role in meeting consumers craving for the best, most advanced 3D home theater experience."
Ultimate in Home Entertainment
Significant, new feature enhancements for 2010 3D DLP Home Cinema TVs include StreamTV™ Internet Media and Immersive Sound Technology. StreamTV™ enables instant access to an extensive library of high quality entertainment and social media content, featuring over 100 different applications including Vudu movies, Pandora, Flickr, Picasa, Facebook, Associated Press, The New York Times and more.
The newly integrated Immersive Sound Technology utilizes a 16-speaker 5.1 channel Dolby® Digital surround sound system to deliver perfectly balanced home theater audio, without the need for separate components. Diamond 838 models of MDEA 3D DLP Home Cinema TVs now join 3D sound with a brilliant 3D picture, for the ultimate in home entertainment.
All 638, 738, and Diamond 838 series 3D DLP Home Cinema TV models for 2010 include 3D DLP Link, Brilliant/Bright/Natural and Game Modes, Plush 1080p, 3 HDMI with CEC, HDMI-PC Compatibility, 2 Component/Composite Video Inputs, and MDEA's exclusive 6-Color Processor™ which provides significantly more color reproduction than typical flat panel TVs.
The MDEA 738 series is available in 60, 65, 73, and 82-inch screen sizes, and offers StreamTV™ Internet Media, USB Wireless N Network Adapter Compatibility, Plush 1080p 5G 12-bit Video processor, Smooth120, EdgeEnhance™, DeepField Imager™, Advanced Video Calibration, and Universal Remote Control.
MDEA's Diamond 838 series boasts three premium 3D DLP Home Cinema TVs in 65, 73, and 82-inch screen sizes. In addition to all features within the 638 and 738 series, each Diamond model includes 16-Speaker Immersive Sound Technology with 32W total system power, Bluetooth® A2DP Audio Streaming, Center Channel Mode, Surround Channel Outputs, Subwoofer Output, Dark Detailer, PerfectColor™, PerfecTint™, ISFccc® Advanced Video Adjustments, 4 HDMI with CEC, NetCommand, and Wired IR Input.
"With the advent of the unprecedented box office success of 3D feature films such as Avatar and Alice in Wonderland, it is clear that consumers have fully embraced the large screen 3D experience," said Frank DeMartin, vice president of marketing, Mitsubishi Digital Electronics America. "The thrill of 3D is to feel as though you are a part of the action, and our mammoth 82-inch 3D DLP Home Cinema TV delivers that immersive experience in the home by featuring three to four times the viewing area of a small screen 46-inch flat panel 3D TV."
Availability and Suggested Retail Pricing
638 Series
WD-60638 - $1,199.00 WD-65638 - $1,499.00 WD-73638 - $1,999.00
738 Series
WD-60738 - $1,399.00 WD-65738 - $1,799.00 WD-73738 - $2,399.00
WD-82738 - $3,799.00
838 Series
WD-65838 - $2,199.00 WD-73838 - $2,799.00 WD-82838 - $4,499.00
You pay less because you get less. Bigger is not always better.
@myopiczeal Not based on what I've read on Amazon and AVSForum. There are some things about DLP that aren't as good as LCD's (viewing angle, and this "rainbow" effect), but otherwise a properly adjusted DLP is supposed to rival the picture quality of plasmas. Plus, all 2008 DLP models (and after) are 3D capable.
@myopiczeal it is when it comes to computing as consumers see it
@Center
Yes there are viewing angle issues, but even an out of the box calibrated DLP will beat Plasma and LCD hands down. My 2 year old 50" Samsung DLP (lamp not LED, boohoo. Even though . . . ) has the most amazing picture that it can still bring a tear to your eye. My brother bought the 52" Top-of-the-Line Samsung (I think 8900 or 9000 series) LCD and there is no comparison. The DLP is far better. The DLP format can take any input and do great things with it. Then when you send it something great it's incredible. Then there is the new Laser and LED light source systems. It's great getting better.
@(Unverified)
P.S.
And with the DLP format there is not motion blur unless it's in the feed. So all this 120/240/600Hz/Frame Rate is unnecessary with DLP. My 24/30/30Hz DLP shows everything as it should be seen. Fast, Slow, 3D. Movies that are shot at 24 FPS/Hz, TV at 60 FPS/Hz all looks great. And so does anything SD. And it's also 3D Ready. And has been for 2 years. At least mine is.
Technology starts to hurt, too much is too much.
The main thing I hate about DLP's are the bulbs... just had to replace one in mine yet again.
@Zachary
Is this one not LED backlit? Those are supposed to last a long time.
Although flat is good, a rear projection TV with better picture quality is worth the depth for me. I still have a rear projection CRT TV because I haven't seen a better picture even with plasma yet although Kuros were fantastic and if they had released a 10G I would have replaced my mits RPTV. The other reason is I have a 65" now and I want an 82" or larger TV and I don't have the space for a projector.
When someone releases a great 4K TV in 80-90" I'll be happy to trade a lot of hard earned money for a sweet new TV. At 1080p a large TV doesn't typically look great but a 4K large TV would be fantastic. I've seen the 150" panasonic and even at 150" 4K looks pretty good.
@boe Every time someone says "CRTs are the best" God kills a kitten. Please just stop.
@boe
What the hell is a "rear projection CRT TV"?
Also as far as picture quality on an HDTV, a CRT HDTV is still very hard to beat. They are just big and heavy.
@(Unverified) Actually if you actually listen to instustry experts (not companies that sell LCD or plasma TVs but those who calibrate TVs and test TVs) they'll tell you CRTs are better - this is a fact, not an opinion - however CRTs are THICK and bulky and heavy and I can't deny they don't have the pleasing physical dimensions of an OLED, LCD, plasma. This is why the thin screen technology that was a hybrid of both thin panel technlogy and the display quality of a CRT was such big news until it got caught up in patent and legal issues until they gave up on it.
@boe
It has so much to do with the fact that LCD's do NOT scale well at all. They either run at their native resolution, or look like crap. My 50" 1080p Plasma works great for scaling content. 720x480 content looks smooth. But put that same on an LCD and it has blocking in the image.
By comparison, take that same 720x480 picture from the plasma and put it on an equally sized CRT and it will look twice as good on the CRT. Something about CRT's makes even low resolution content look great. The only problem is that they don't offer any sense of immersion.
Then again, my plasma, with all the glass they used, the thing is incredibly glossy and it's not entirely practical to use it during the day with the shades fully open because you can get ridiculous glare depending on where you sit. But CRT's have that same problem. The only advantage I see in LCD is that they can be matte and offer reduction in glare. But at the cost of scalability, contrast, and brightness.
In the end though, the colors on a plasma are simply hard to beat. Nothing as bright and vibrant for the price.
"Every time someone says "CRTs are the best" God kills a kitten. Please just stop."
"What the hell is a "rear projection CRT TV"?"
I can't blame you guys for not understanding (or knowing what a CRT RPTV is) because they've been out of the market for several years. A CRT RPTV uses 3 separate CRTs, one for red/green/blue each, to project an image onto the screen.
CRTs DO produce the best image quality, it's true. Nothing rivals their color, greyscale or black level... OR SENSE OF IMMERSION (ugh, wtf was that?). They fell out of favor because they were expensive and huge and required regular convergence, which is a massive hassle. The market responded a lot better to the small, flat panels than to the 400lb (yes, I'm serious) TVs.
In terms of whether a TV produces a good image when fed low res content, this is NOT a function of the TV type: LCD, DLP, OLED or CRT. It is a function of the internal scaling algorithms. Last year, Sony's XBR5 and XBR6 differed by about $500, and the *only* difference was that the XBR6 had a better scaler. OTOH, my Mitsubishi 73711 CRT RPTV has one of the worse scalers ever produced, and any 480i content looks horrible on it (I purchased an external scaler). So, while SunDevil2012 *sounds* like he knows what he's saying, he doesn't understand the technology here, and is actually providing *mis*-information.
-Pie
Such skinny side bezels. 3 60" Mitsu DLP Eyefinity setup would indeed own.
Does anyone actually buy these things? (Perhaps the rich and ignorant?)
@DaMan5
Yes people do, including me. It's amazing, one of the best pictures I've ever seen. Now tell me where I can get another 1080p 3D 65" TV for $1,200. Oh yeah you can't.
@levi16
A real user (other than a display at Best Buy!), and you're not minding the whole glasses thing? If this was glasses-less, I would say worth buying.
(Wasn't knocking DLP tech btw)
@DaMan5 So buying a 60" DLP at $1,200 (with picture quality that rivals plasmas) is being rich and ignorant vs buying an LCD 55" at over $2k? I don't get your rationale here.
@DaMan5 You'd be hard pressed to get me to give up the picture quality, size and price value of a DLP over a lesser LCD or Plasma simply so I can mount it on the wall. That's the only benefit an LCD or plasma can offer me without going over 2x what I paid for my DLP.
Makes me wanna pee..
All this hate for DLP TVs is retarded.
I got one over two years ago, a 60in Mitsubishi, for $899 (amazon sale) and it is fantastic. Picture quality is still ace, and the replacement bulb costs 80 bucks, which I haven't needed to do yet.
The only con to a rear projection TV is that you can't hang it up on a wall. That's it.
They are the best quality TV for the price. Nothing comes close.
@arboreal snowman
I used to hate them too until I got a 3D DLP projector and was mighty impressed for $420.
@arboreal snowman
My house has one of those built in media-niches, putting a flat panel there would just look silly.
Woah! That is what I call 3D!
WS-65813 - OLD TV but still a fantastic picture - unforunately it takes up way too much space. It is 1080i and some idiot will say 1080p is better. 1080p doesn't make a picture better any more than more pixels make a camera better. a 3megapixel camera can take a better picture than a 12megapixel camera if the 3 megapixel camera has a better lens. Now that isn't to say that a 3 megapixel camera is better than an 8 megapixel camera provided all other qualities are the same just that one characteristic doesn't define better or worse.
Wait. Wasn't it Mitsubishi that had the tech demo of 3D without the glasses? I think I saw that on engadget a while back. Then it would make perfect sense for Mits to be the 'stream tv' thing.
@noneroy
FTW: http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/mitsubishi-shows-off-3d-tv-technology-no-glasses-needed/
@noneroy if only there were a link to that in this post
@RichardLawler maybe the engadget bloggers are all out drinking post-apple press conference. ;)
I would appreciate a bit a help here being noobie.
Im looking to buy a large tv (55" n above) for my living room with 3D n HD..
the new samsung led tv looks great but its REALLY expensive.
I had never looked into DLP until i read this thread and did some research but still havent completely found m answer.
i love that mitsubishi dlps are so cheap for such a large screen size but i wanna know the drawbacks. (sorry for the noob questions)
1. Its 3d ready but will i be able to play the 3d bluray discs on my ps3 slim?
2. Samsungs led tv will be much more popular , so im afraid that the 3d blurays wont be compatible with my mitsubishi dlp
3. what is the "checkerboard" adapter? Will i need to get that for my ps3 slim? Does that solve my problems above.
4. howmuch to mitsubishi charge for their 3d glasses? samsung's are insanely expensive for me ( having a large family)
5. Samsung's tv converts 2d content to 3d which is a big advantage while watching sports etc. Does the mitsubishi one do this too? ( i havent readthis anywhere)
Thanksalot guys. :)
@maniac See http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1114654
But here's what I know so far:
1) Yes, DLP's (all 2008-2010 models, and some 2007) are compatible to Bluray 3D/PS3 3D. You will, however, need a separate adapter which I hear will cost around $200.
2) See #1
3) All you need to know is that "checkerboard" means you see a 1080p image with both eyes COMBINED as opposed to 1080p PER eye. Slight difference, but I think the FAQ does a better job of explaining.
4) Same as the 3d glasses for Samsung
5) I don't know. And I think you have it backwards. Samsung can convert 3D to 2D.
@Center
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/tv-video/televisions/led-tv/UN46C8000XFXZA/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&returnurl=
"• Converting 2D movies, sports and shows to 3D."
The samsung 3d led does convert 2d to 3d.
@maniac Ahh.. That is interesting, but I wonder how it works (and looks). Anyways, here's what I meant when I thought he had it backwards:
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/sc/34001684-2-440-DT10.jpg
The image is from the CNet review of the UN55C8000:
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/samsung-un55c8000/4505-6482_7-34001684.html?tag=smallCarouselArea.1
Just stating my opinion here folks....not as an engineer but as a home theater enthusiast. What does my 67" Samsung LED DLP provide that my 50" Kuro does not? Immersion!
Bang for the buck, you cannot beat a DLP for it's screen-size, energy efficiency (assume LED backlit), very respectable contrast, and yes....horizontal viewing angle.
Sure, each technology has its strengths and weaknesses. I'm not stating DLP is perfection, but DLP owners seem to share a humble sense of pride (just read the other comments).
As for picture quality, I still find nothing to trump the big ole' CRT.
Support? / Flames?
@knurled
trying to pick up an 82 inch crt would be insane. but ill take a 82 inch dlp anytime. im waiting to see real world prices on the models. because current 82 inch 2009 models go for under $3k can find as low as 2200 in many cases. i wanna wait til al features are revealed . i would by the 82838 model if the iris can be turned on or off , thats one feature that would be nice.
Are these *really* still using Checkerboard?
This technology is half-resolution 3D, not full 1080p. While I can see the cost-cutting involved in using their older technology for their lower-end TVs, I would hope the top-of-the-line would use a the full-resolution temporal 3D (display twice as fast, so each eye gets a full res image).
I didn't see it say anything in the PR that mentioned checkerboard, but I may have missed it.
-Pie