AMD to ship chips in 109 laptops this year?
By Sean Hollister 
posted May 9th 2010 10:01PM
posted May 9th 2010 10:01PM
posted May 9th 2010 10:01PM
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They probably aren't rocking the benchmarks yet, but their bundling ATi chips may have a part in manufacturers picking up the new AMD CPUs
@JeremyBenthem
Great point. It's probably significantly easier to sell CPUs when you've already got a laptop OEM's attention with your GPUs.
ATI's GPUs are the only DX11 mobile option, not to mention, the architecture is significantly more power friendly than nvidia's. So, even if Fermi does come to mobile, you'll likely see better battery life out of the Radeon 5000 series.
@JeremyBenthem
Yup...and It's apparent intel has no fucking clue how to make a decent graphics chip. I would like to see some more AMD laptop options :)
@jebo4jc oem's are choosing amd because a) intel cpu's has a built in gpu this makes it annoying ti maintain good battery life when you have laptops with 2 gpus (integrated + nvidia discrete). amd doesn't have a built in gpu so its easier for oem to work with especially when you have a great ati gpu.
b) intel is having manufacturing problems and their is a shortage of processors. this has oem worry about supply.
c)amd is cheaper.
@JeremyBenthem
ayo my homies at intel did these cats like how we do it in the hood.. drive by style my dawg!!!!!
Grats! Most of you seem to know how to read and repeat from ArsTechnica.
@DoctarPeppar
While it's definitely true that Intel graphics have historically sucked major ass, their latest GMA HD chips are actually not that bad. They're almost as fast as their AMD/Nvidia IGP counterparts and are fully capable of driving 1080p video.
@saturnblackhole
shortages my a$$, intel does this kind of stuff to milk more money out of their latest CPUs which have been selling well, its like they forget AMD is still nipping at their feet
@aznofazns
Then why are all these new netbooks getting shipped with broadcom crystal cards?
Ya know I remember when it was a big deal when Dell started shipping AMD Processors and then they just fell off the face of the Earth when the Core 2 Duo came along.
Hey guys... it says "dominating" in the paragraph. heeheeheehee!
here's hoping they're improved performance (to at least core 2 levels) and that they've dramatically reduced thermal envelope. last generation's heat and battery life were completely unacceptable.
do work, amd!
@Wildman
+1 on the heat
I have a tx2500z from hp with an AMD Turion X2...and damn I hardly use it as a tablet anymore because of the heat and the fan noise from doing anything other than word processing
@gatesofbill
i know what you mean. the guy who lives next door to me at school has a dv2 that shuts off under load bc of heat. i hate intel as much as the next guy, but they've done awesome things in the mobile market recently.
@Wildman
Seeing as how AMD's desktop flagship CPU's, excluding the new Phenom II X6, are at best on par with Intel's Core 2 Quad series, I predict that AMD will finally be able to provide mobile C2D/C2Q level performance at cheaper prices with their Phenom II X2/X4 mobile chips. However, battery life will probably be worse, and they won't even come close to mobile i7's in performance.
AMD hasn't made a dent in sales since Core 2 was invented.
SHOCK, GASP, WOOOHHH...
109 laptops to avoid.
@IPADISHORRIBLE
so you just hate everything I guess. Why are you here?
lmao at uninformed engadget readers thinking core 2 killed amd. AMDs been out of the game since pentium 4.... core and core 2 were just icing on the cake.
@IPADISHORRIBLE
stupid troll. we're talking about the mobile market. not desktop cpu's.
@IPADISHORRIBLE
Are you stupid? Amd's athlon fx 64 killed the core duo. And amd's athlon fx Slaughtered the Pentium 4s. Not to mention Opteron server chips have had the performance advantage on and off again for years. And BTW you can often by two or more amd chips for the price of Intel's. Top of the lone chips
@Wildman
agreed this guy has no idea what hes talking about. pentium 4 is what caused amd to dominate... its just these past couple years they have fallen behind but it looks like there may be a comeback ahead.
@IPADISHORRIBLE
Troll troll troll your boat...
@IPADISHORRIBLE
You are such an idiot. AMD has had better performing processors than Intel since the Thunderbird-based Athlon came out and the Pentium 4 was a flop. Sure there were times when Intel processors overpowered AMD processors such as when Intel's Northwood-based Pentium 4s were considered faster than the Thoroughbred-based Athlon XPs and when the Tualatin-based Pentium III outperformed the Thunderbird-based Athlon, but most of the time AMD processors could kill Intel processors in most applications. AMD's performance lead was in around 2006-2007 lost when Intel launched their Core 2 processors and AMD is now struggling to regain it.
@Tothamax
Alright kids, stop feeding the trolls. Lets go over to the giraffes. You're allowed to feed them.
Just think of all the power that will be wasted and excess heat will be generated from these 109 models, all while accomplishing so little.
@Leindurstit
All I have to say is:
http://www.engadget.com/exclude/Leindurstit
Sadly AMD has a long way to go on reducing power consumption on their CPU's.
Well, AMD's success would depend on how may AMD powered machines sell not how may AMD powered machines are made!!
@AvidTechUser and fortunately for AMD the average consumer doesn't know jack about which chips are better than what. they will ultimately buy which ever one has more RAM and costs less. and from what i can tell AMD machines tend to cost less.
Glad to see Intel finally getting good competition from AMD. Can't wait to see how Llano performs next year.
Too bad the envy 14 (aka the machine I've been dreaming of) is intel only. It kills me inside at the idea of turning away from amd this time around but I need a new computer yesterday and so far that's the one that actually has exactly what I'm looking for. At least I can take solace in the ati graphics so at least they're getting a cut of the money I'll be spending, and if this new influx this year gives them the boost they need, hopefully the next time I get a new machine a few years down the road they'll be back in the game full time.
as opposed to the millions that intel is shipping right?
/sarcasm
@stasguy
yeah, lol, that's less that 10 a month!
HP buys palm, scraps the Microsoft + Intel slate, and now announces tons more AMD systems, all while shipping the only reasonable all in one with a touchscreen. Why has HP suddenly become awesome?
@nickyP They've become less mediocre at best. Touchsmarts are gimmicks, HPalm has yet to even happen. Nice lappys are all for now.
Who gave you that Intel on AMD? (see what I did there?)
@MattsZ
Not really
I don't like AMD chips but that's good for competition. I hope they catch on Intel someday.
Well, If I get a Phenom II X4 + ATI 5850 mobility radeon around $1000, I wouldn't mind half an hour loss in battery life. :)
Besides, AMD haven't published a new mobile CPU ( except those neo etc ) in the last couple of years. So, may be AMD have done its homework in power management this time before unleashing the new chips. ( Just like they did in the GPU aspect ).
@sabby Um, they brought out the Tigris platform last summer with the ZM and RM series processors.
I wonder if it is because of intel's douche move of not allowing integrated ati or nvidia video cards with their new processors.
109 AMD laptop models is better than 40 AMD laptop models, especially when they come from major players like Dell and HP. AMD must be doing something right.
The new CPUs, by the way, are 25-45 W TDP. This is broadly comparable to Intel's mainstream notebook lineup, though yes, idle draw is just as important for battery life.
The 5--v series graphics chips are just rebrands of the mobile 4--- parts, so they are not DirectX 11. Sad but true. Not that you'll miss much given the GPU horsepower available, but hey...
@bebop The Mobility 5000 series are most definitively not a rebrand of the 4000 series. Unless you got ATI confused with NVIDIA.
The Mobility Radeon 5000 are DirectX 11 parts.
http://www.amd.com/us/products/notebook/graphics/ati-mobility-hd-5700/Pages/ati-mobility-hd-5700.aspx
@motorolo Never mind, I think you meant the 500 series, not the 5000. My bad.
Right now the average price on a netbook is $300. If companies start using chips that cost less maybe the average price in about a year or so will be $250, or even $200 a netbook.
@gigarath Now if we could get companies to start pre-installing Ubuntu 10.04 instead of Windows 7. The average cost could be between $200 to $150 a netbook.
Lucid Lynx FTW!
I avoid GMA like the plague, and I'm sure many other people do to. Anyone would plays games, or can keep the back of a computer games box knows to avoid the Intel combo (awesome cpu + attrocious gpu) and would rather have (ok cpu + decent gpu)
Really?
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