Chinese manufacturers: 1) KIRF anything and everything in sight without the slightest guilt or accountability for laws 2) Run slave labour camps and exploit their workers to the point of suicide 3) Put toxic materials in all kinds of products and try to pass them off as legit
Remind me why we buy anything with a Made in China tag on it again?
@rederikus Well DUH! My point was when we as consumers, turn a blind eye to these facts, we have no right to bitch and complain for we're living off the avails of consumer prostitution. We all know better but actively choose to be part of the problem. We're all just as bad as they are!!!
@Chaosdivine because it says Apple on it. It's not any better than anything else but for all the show offs it's not about function it's about fashion. Look at me, I got an Apple.
Peace to foxconn workers, maybe one day you can go home after work not just sleep at the factory. Then have room & board taken out of your meager pittance.
the reason I buy things made in china is because for most of those items, there is not a "made in usa" equivalent. And most you cant even find a "made without ubercheap labor" alternative. Please tell me where i can get something like this for... 50"plasma, blu ray player, computer, game console, stereo, cell phone, microwave, automobile (they all have some component made overseas),
anyway, please submit. I would love to get usa made items, they just don't exist. Let china get unions, and some other developing nation will pick up the slack.
@bjbroderick No you are 100% correct, I'm definitely not disputing that. It is incredibly difficult to NOT buy something without at least a part of it being built in China. I personally couldn't name something that isn't made there these days. In the "old days" made in America meant something - quality. People actively sought out American brands. It was nationalism in action. Now the Chinese own a HUGE part of your national debt and essentially own your ass too. The only way to end this is with a major shift in ideals (on a Government level). Ultimately people need to vote with their wallets by not buying their stuff. Like that's going to happen...
@bigcow05 What value did you add to this conversation? Are you the type that just likes to hear your own voice and interject nonsense to feel like you've participated? Judging by your nickname I somehow think I've got you pegged..
The value I added was in pointing out that your post was inaccurate and that your "facts" were nothing more than incensed elitist blathering. The fact that you think ALL Chinese manufacturers make KIRF products, run "slave labor camps" (your words, not mine), and put toxic materials in their products make it hard to take you more seriously than the troll that you are. Now I'll ask you the same (rhetorical) question: what value has your response added to this conversation?
If you have the brain capacity, you might want to go to Google and type in "dangerous chinese products" and see what comes up. There are over 3.7 million hits and I'm sure even you will be able to find something that you can comprehend with pretty pictures and small words.
If you actually READ TFA or watched the news at all, you've had a good example of their work camps and slave labor practices...you DO pay attention to current events don't you?
If you need examples of KIRF products, you've obviously not spent much time on Engadget and should hand in your nerd pass...
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Chinese manufacturers:
1) KIRF anything and everything in sight without the slightest guilt or accountability for laws
2) Run slave labour camps and exploit their workers to the point of suicide
3) Put toxic materials in all kinds of products and try to pass them off as legit
Remind me why we buy anything with a Made in China tag on it again?
@Chaosdivine
Becaue it is cheap and you like that, don't you?
@rederikus
Well DUH! My point was when we as consumers, turn a blind eye to these facts, we have no right to bitch and complain for we're living off the avails of consumer prostitution. We all know better but actively choose to be part of the problem. We're all just as bad as they are!!!
@Chaosdivine
because it says Apple on it. It's not any better than anything else but for all the show offs it's not about function it's about fashion. Look at me, I got an Apple.
Peace to foxconn workers, maybe one day you can go home after work not just sleep at the factory. Then have room & board taken out of your meager pittance.
@Chaosdivine
the reason I buy things made in china is because for most of those items, there is not a "made in usa" equivalent. And most you cant even find a "made without ubercheap labor" alternative. Please tell me where i can get something like this for...
50"plasma,
blu ray player,
computer,
game console,
stereo,
cell phone,
microwave,
automobile (they all have some component made overseas),
anyway, please submit. I would love to get usa made items, they just don't exist. Let china get unions, and some other developing nation will pick up the slack.
@bjbroderick
No you are 100% correct, I'm definitely not disputing that. It is incredibly difficult to NOT buy something without at least a part of it being built in China. I personally couldn't name something that isn't made there these days. In the "old days" made in America meant something - quality. People actively sought out American brands. It was nationalism in action. Now the Chinese own a HUGE part of your national debt and essentially own your ass too. The only way to end this is with a major shift in ideals (on a Government level). Ultimately people need to vote with their wallets by not buying their stuff. Like that's going to happen...
@Chaosdivine
The only thing I would add to your post would be a bit more generalization. That always makes for a better argument.
@bigcow05
What value did you add to this conversation? Are you the type that just likes to hear your own voice and interject nonsense to feel like you've participated? Judging by your nickname I somehow think I've got you pegged..
@Chaosdivine
The value I added was in pointing out that your post was inaccurate and that your "facts" were nothing more than incensed elitist blathering. The fact that you think ALL Chinese manufacturers make KIRF products, run "slave labor camps" (your words, not mine), and put toxic materials in their products make it hard to take you more seriously than the troll that you are. Now I'll ask you the same (rhetorical) question: what value has your response added to this conversation?
@bigcow05
Hey dipshit:
http://www.who-sucks.com/business/made-in-china-2007-danger-timeline
http://www.boston.com/business/gallery/china_watchlist/
If you have the brain capacity, you might want to go to Google and type in "dangerous chinese products" and see what comes up. There are over 3.7 million hits and I'm sure even you will be able to find something that you can comprehend with pretty pictures and small words.
If you actually READ TFA or watched the news at all, you've had a good example of their work camps and slave labor practices...you DO pay attention to current events don't you?
If you need examples of KIRF products, you've obviously not spent much time on Engadget and should hand in your nerd pass...
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