It's rare to come across a universally lauded product nowadays, but NVIDIA's fresh new
GTX 460 is just that sort of exceptional creation. Contrary to its
GTX 465 elder brother, the 460 isn't a chopped-down top-tier part and is instead built on the new GF104 core. This smaller core, designed from the start to perform humbler functions, has ameliorated the famed
power inefficiency that has been a
Fermi signature so far, and has resulted in
AnandTech describing the new card as "the $200 king." You'll get 768MB of onboard RAM at that point, but we'd splurge an extra $30 to make that a round gigabyte and enjoy some extra L2 cache and ROPs on the card. Either way, the GTX 460 seems to have completely killed off the market for the 465 and is stepping all over ATI's toes with its competitive pricing and, for once, decent heat and power metrics. Oh, and apparently it "overclocks like a monster" too -- hit the links below for the full reviews.
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posted July 12th 2010 3:03AM
Now I just need a new rig to put on in.
but will it play Pong?
@Psyclotr0n
DOS pong nope
but write a pong simulation in CUDA can it can simulate a billion matches every minute
@DefPoet
DOS pong yes, if someone ports DOS to CUDA
Sweet!
I've been looking for a new graphics card so my computer can run Dawn of Discovery.
Any card that requires two 6-pin power plugs isn't actually a midrange card, no matter what the price.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
@spin cycle
I agree the power req is still relatively high. The 5770 owns the sub 200$ space because of this.
@spin cycle
Unfortunately, that seems to be the trend with desktop graphics these days. Maybe next year we'll see cards that require THREE six-pin connectors...
@Ericloewe http://hothardware.com/articleimages/item1532/big_asus-ares-card-4.jpg
@spin cycle
All I want is a powerful mid range card that is cool enough to only need a passive heatsink. This heatsink can be large, understandably, but still... away with the fan!
@paul34 and all i want is a magical pony that shits cookies.
@spin cycle Quick question for you guys. My work place needs one of these cards for to offload the number crunching in a image processing program we use. Anyway, our power supply only has 1x6-pin PCI-E connector. Do you guys think the card will run at its full potential (at all?) with just one connector?
@iRSX Of course, the second 6-pin connector is just there for show.
So, AMD finally has a reason - for the first time in 9 months - to reduce prices. Good for us. Remains to be seen how much longer this puppy is competitive in terms of price/performance.
@Bahumbug
yeah, it's about time we had some competition. although ATI may already be getting ready to release the HD6k series soon.
Oh hell yes, picking a 1GB card this week with a follow up 1GB card around Christmas time for some SLI goodness..
These things are amazing overclockers too.
Welcome back nVidia.
It's been a while...
@SolidSnake so this beats 1 year old ATi cards ... good job nVidia
@SolidSnake
I'm not really sure to be honest, I thought I knew a bit about gfx cards but one minute peeps are claiming such and such card is the fastest and then someone else says no, actually this is; I was led to believe the 5870 would be a noticeable upgrade from my 4870x2 but when I checked Futuremarks rankings its barley ranked above it and as for this GTX460 everyones going crazy over here, well that aint gonna come close to it...why? Because even the 470 is put south of it?! So if the chart is right I need either a GTX480 or 5970 to experience noticeable difference wtf thats like a £500 :(
@TacticalTimbo The reason why everyone's excited about the GTX 460 is that it performs well at it's price point. If you could find a 5870 at $200 then of course it's gonna blow the pants off a GTX 460 but that's not the point. GTX 460 currently blows everything else at the $200 point out of the water. From the AMD camp that means the 5830 which your 5870 is clearly better than. Plus I don't understand why you'd need something more powerful than a 5870 unless you're running something higher than 2560x1600 ie, multiple monitors for gaming.
@SolidSnake I'm running an 8800gt from 2 1/2 years ago with little complaint, but I this looks like a good reason to upgrade finally.
@midnightblade Sorry I wasn't clear with what I was trying to say there. What I meant to say is I have a 4870x2 and was looking to upgrade to a 5870, based on the comments of punters speaking positively about it in comparison to the 4870x2. However as Futuremark's league table shows the difference is extremely marginal at best, now I know Futuremark can only be counted as one barometer out of many and other official sources might say different but as a fairly reliable source it just shows how off whack the opinions of some bloggers are. In others words what I am trying to say is many seem to have a habit of highly over stating the improvement of successive cards over the previous generations and I fear that is what is happening again here. I mean is this GTX 460 really that much better than comparable cards available prior to its release? Personally I am very disappointed with what I see as rather slow progress in the GPU market of late. I mean if I really have to spend around £500 on a new card to significantly better what I bought two years ago, thats not really much progress is it?!
Too late. :(
Just bought an HD 5870 for $295.
@einhanderkiller 30 day return policies are your friend!
@einhanderkiller The GTX 460 is a competitor to the 5830 @ $200, a little bit better (loses out on some benchmarks) and has more features and the lowest temps and quietest fan in its class. So unless you really want cuda ur fine with any 5850/5870 etc. UNLESS you plan to overclock the GTX 460, especially the 1GB version ($220) at about 25% OC, you might catchup to the 5870... dont hold it to me tho.
how does this compare to the msi r5770 hawk cause i just got that for $180 and it's a beauty to overclock.
@AER0
From the Reviews this Card overclocks better than every card ever made
and it constantly beat a Radeon HD 5830 in almost every game
@DefPoet
Damn i should have waited!! i know the hawk can overclock from 875 Mhz core clock to around 1050Mhz which is still pretty good....i'm just trying to justify my buying the r5770 ^^
@AER0
no need to justify :D Go buy something with the money you saved!
saving money always wins besides your card overclocks like crazy to
@AER0 The 5770 is a great card that will last you a while. Who really cares if there's another card out there that's 5-10% faster? As long as you can play the games you want to play at a nice framerate, who cares?
Looks like I've found my next graphics card.
@ArcticWolf, you might want to wait until October when ATI is going to release its new graphics core the HD6000 series (Southern Island). The first batch is already in production and we should see test cards as early as August.
From Hardocp
We sat through the product briefings, our excitement for this turnaround product slowly growing. If the numbers NVIDIA gave us were even close to reality, we felt that they had a real winner on their hands. To say that we were not disappointed is to massively understate our feelings on the GeForce GTX 460. This is a truly fabulous video card. Its performance either matches or outpaces the competition from AMD. It consumes relatively little power, especially under full load. Its fan keeps it cool and quiet. And frankly, it overclocks like no video card we’ve seen before. We extracted a 195MHz overclock from the GPU core, and in some cases performance was increased by up to 43%!!
Hot Damn $200 bucks and it performs like a $300 card when OC'd
@DefPoet It being quiet (reference design) is of course nonsense. Power consumption under load is also not really what i expect from a "mid range" card. But thats hardocp...
@Bahumbug
and what is wrong with hardocp?
Byfar the best real world review site there is, other sites use synthetic benchmarks while Hardocp never does Hell anything that gave birth to the General [M]ayhem forums had so be Great
@DefPoet
anything that gave birth to my horrid spelling should be ashamed!
@DefPoet, To bad it is so late, ATI's new GPU the HD6000 is already in production and first samples are expected in August with a release date of October. Having an advantage in the mid-range market for a couple three month is nothing to brag about. I hope Nvidia's next GPU update is coming soon as well. They can't really afford to wait for another year.
I wonder exactly how you plan to "enjoy" your extra RAM, L2 cache and ROPs or was this sarcasm?
I mean there isn`t a single PC game out there able to moderately sweat these cards. PC is the neglected platform since years. Yes, there will be someone trying to play at 2560 x 1600 at maximum AA settings but these people generally don`t buy $200 graphics cards...
@substance90
once more directx 11 games come out we can see if their will be a benefit
@substance90 Look at the benchmarks. Its only pulling 30 fps on Crysis Warhead and about 35 fps on BattleForge DX11 while its in the high 20s for STALKER at 1920x1200. There are a lot of gamers that have 24" monitors and frankly 30 fps in a shooter is not that great.
You missed one of the good reviews - http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1360/1/
Legit Reviews shows that it also passes up the more expensive Radeon HD 5830 and GeForce GTX 465 in pretty much every single benchmark... Great looking card!
@OCFreak
They always leave out one of the top review sites but they have to or else the list of sites to click on would be insanely huge!
Come on ATI! I know you've got something hiding up your sleeve! Let's see it! You can beat Nvidia again!
ATI > NVIDIA
@xdeiri
Even though almost all the reviews state it its better than ATI's offerings at the same price points.....graphics card fanboys....really?
@element4life3
graphic card fanboys have been around since 3dx
@DefPoet
I find myself facepalming more and more whilst reading comments on Engadget...
Too bad for Nvidia that they were such asshats about SLI. Otherwise I would be getting two 460's instead of two 5830's.
This is awesome. The bar is being raised so high that when these next consoles come out they will be so much more powerful than the current generation. Win for all!