Europe to suffer another PS3 delay?

This whole PS3 delay game has really become something of an amusing sideshow at this point: after so much bad press concerning nearly every single aspect of the console, you'd think that Sony would do everything possible to ensure that things run smoothly from here until launch, and yet word on the street is that Europe may be victim to still another postponement. It should be noted we have no independent confirmation of the following information, but Spanish gaming site MeriStation is reporting that Ken Kutaragi recently admitted that supply problems for Japan and North America could force the European PS3 launch to be delayed until May -- which would mean that Japanese and American consumers might have their systems nearly six months before the eager gamers in the rest of the world. Now keep in mind that Kutaragi also supposedly said that Sony has not modified its European launch plans at this time, so right now we're only looking at a "what if" scenario. Still, this rollout has been plagued with nothing but problems since day one, and as much as we'd like to see Sony pull this one off considering the shaky condition it's currently in, we're starting to think that these little issues and public gaffes may add up to big problems.

[Thanks, Mercenary]

[Tom @ Oct 13th 2006 1:48PM]

@Ritalin

What the hell do gyroscopic controls have to do with depth perception? Nothing. You sound like a moron to me, especially for trying to equate the Wii with those crappy gyro mice. Having used those mice doesn't make you qualified to say how the Wii will work, since it is completely different for two reasons:

1) The Wii actually DOES have depth perception, that's what the sensor bar is for.

2) I've watched videos of people playing Wii on the E3 showfloor and it looks pretty damn accurate to me.

Maybe you should TAKE some Ritalin before posting stupid comments that demonstrate how little you pay attention.

[Chris @ Oct 13th 2006 3:47PM]

Tinfoil hat much?

[Mr. Wii @ Oct 14th 2006 6:33PM]

Umm Ritalin, have you ever even shot a BB gun (or any gun for that matter) before? It's impossible to accuratly aim using both eyes. You close one. That leaves you shooting with ONE eye. But I still have no idea how the heck that was suppose to help your depth perception arguement. That has nothing to do with depth perception.

[AKBlade13 @ Oct 12th 2006 4:41PM]

No Sony...don't do it, you'd only be huring yourself in the long run.

Let's hope these rumors are not true.

[Cade @ Oct 12th 2006 4:44PM]

The PS3 is being delayed more than Vista.

[Porsche 911 @ Nov 1st 2006 3:56PM]

no, it is not

[Bigtallguy @ Oct 12th 2006 4:45PM]

Get the feeling Sony has dropped the ball bigtime... no longer in the number one spot... wii

[Carlos Rivero @ Oct 12th 2006 4:46PM]

well ... maybe with this I won't have to sleep at the doors of BestBuy.... maybe if I get there at 3am would work.....
Darn.... that's what I get for not knowing when the preorder started.....

[Regula Oblique @ Oct 12th 2006 4:46PM]

This all could of been avoided if Sony did what they traditonally did and release in Japan, then USA, then Europe...they should of learned from Microsoft that Global Launching doesnt always work well.

[nodnetni @ Oct 12th 2006 4:46PM]

I am kind of curious to know what the current production numbers are, are they going to make their 500,000 mark by november? If not, and they have been in production for how long? 500,000 really isnt that many, you figure the Wii already has 2,000,000 + maybe sony should just sit it out for another year, and then release the beast.

[Alcaron @ Oct 12th 2006 4:47PM]

Man I hope that isnt how big the PS3 really is...sheesh thats huge.

[Nate @ Oct 12th 2006 4:47PM]

You guys really need to stop busting on Sony. So what if it comes out late. I'd rather wait and have it done right than buy a console filled with bugs.
Sony is only one who completely redesigned there system to make a truly "nextgen" console. This takes time and I understand that... and so should you.

[Sean DL @ Oct 12th 2006 5:23PM]

See that's the problem, Nate...they AREN'T delaying it because of bugs...

They are Delaying it because they can only make enough systems for one region of the world.

I wish they were delying it till they had enough, I mean what if Microsooft just relaease Vista tomorrow and only 500,000 people could get it?


It's not smart business, and the only reason they are getting away with it is because they have the excuse of "Well it's what happens at holiday season, we jsut can't make enoguh"

It's BS. Yuo couldn't make enough in the first place.

[Brian @ Oct 12th 2006 5:47PM]

>You guys really need to stop busting on Sony. So what if it comes out late. I'd >rather wait and have it done right than buy a console filled with bugs.
>Sony is only one who completely redesigned there system to make a truly "nextgen"
>console. This takes time and I understand that... and so should you.

If you want to wait until it's done right, you will be waiting a LONG time then. Don't make excuses for Sony, they deserve all the crap they are getting.

Redesigning everything doesn't making it "nextgen", just a new system that out does the previous generation does, hence the word NEXT. It doesn't matter that 100%, 50% ot 25% of the system was re-designed. I guess if we find out Sony didn't redesign the fan or the power supply on the PS3, it cannot be considered next gen? The joystick buttons are excately the same.... guess it's not truely nextgen? eh?

[Longman @ Oct 12th 2006 5:54PM]

Funny, I thought the 360 was built entirely new from the ground up: new procesor platform, new processor core structure, new OS, new hardware design, new live features, new peripherals.

Huh, guess I'm wrong...

[Loban @ Oct 12th 2006 4:48PM]

Is anyone actually planning on buying a PS3 at this point anyway? I don't know a single person who doesn't think it's a big joke.

[Porsche 911 @ Nov 1st 2006 3:56PM]

i am getting a ps3, and now wii is a joke

[nodnetni @ Oct 12th 2006 4:59PM]

Wouldnt be funny, if no one is seriously thinking about getting one, and you have these people that pre-order just the other day just to sell them on ebay for a huge profit, only to find out that no one is willing to pay more then $600. So they get stuck with them and have to sell them for a loss.

[Porsche 911 @ Nov 1st 2006 3:56PM]

i am getting a ps3, btw, wii is a joke

[Porsche 911 @ Oct 12th 2006 4:57PM]

i am getting a ps3, btw, wii is a joke

[What the... @ Oct 12th 2006 5:25PM]

Yeah, noone is gonna buy a ps3, are you retarded? lol

Go try and find a pre-order... then ask yourself the same stupid question. They are going to do just fine with this... even tho it's a launch disaster.

The XBox360 is more affordable... but people will pay for the PS3. It's way ahead of the XBox360...

and the Wii...? This has to be one of the least exciting product launches in video game console history... congrats on not having a product shortage during launch... Hopefully you sell all 2 million of them. If it's anything like the SuckCube, they are in trouble. At least the SuckCube had a normal controller... not some stupid "wand" lol

[rocketman @ Oct 12th 2006 5:29PM]

I'm getting one. I know more than 10 people that are getting one. You seriously think no one is going to buy one? Do you still believe in the tooth fairy?

[disciple83 @ Oct 12th 2006 4:55PM]

Don't you guys remember when they said that when it comes to making quality games, they said that they don't have to push games back anymore as they can just release a patch every so often to fix bugs with their new Connect system? Sony doesn't care anymore, or they have gotten so cocky as a result of their "Cell processor" or whatever. They banked on the PSX and PS2, and they think they can bank on this one too because it has a gimick factor with the processor and Blu-Ray player. All I can say is that they don't deliver, (and this thing better be Godlike), they are toast.

[BEETROOT @ Oct 12th 2006 5:04PM]

Is that really how big it is? I'll need to rent a truck to get it home from the store.

[Jeff @ Oct 12th 2006 5:17PM]

"Is that really how big it is?"

Are the people saying this really the complete morons they sound like they are? Or have you just not mastered the art of sarcasm yet? (Hint: you need a more obvious punch line, not to mention a more original joke.)

Anyway, you're all going to forget about all of this once the system's on the market. I'm in Tokyo right now and got some hands-on time with the PS3 at the Sony building in Ginza the other day. I'm sold. The system is clean and polished and the games (at least the ones Sony had playable) looked great.

After that, I'm even more convinced that all this "bad press" is nothing more than fanboy bias. Boo-hoo - Sony won't have as many units for sale at launch as you want. Cry me a river. All that means is there's plenty of demand - which last I checked, does not add up to "bad press".

[radd @ Oct 12th 2006 5:42PM]

lol that pic of kutaragi and the giant ps3 never gets old

[RJR @ Oct 12th 2006 5:44PM]

Is that just a really big PSIII, or just a really tiny asian guy?

[Bas @ Oct 12th 2006 5:49PM]

I guess this has been asked before: who is paying you for writing down the PS3? It really starts to become annoying. Your readers are not stupid, you know. We know you run a commercial blog and some of your stuff is sponsored, just don't slap us in the face continuously with it... this is 21st century marketing, play with the rules, guys... or you might loose your credibility quicker than you think.

[Console Fanboy @ Oct 12th 2006 5:51PM]

All this talk about the PS3 being way ahead of the 360 is rubbish, the systems are on par, each with it's own strengths and weaknesses. The only reason we are waiting for the PS3 is because Sony is trying to force a media format which is only required for HD movies AND NOT GAMES,that's Blue ray. Sony is fighting a bigger battle here and are using gamers loyal to the Playstation brand as pawns. We are forced to pay over the odds and incur countless delays because Sony wants to be the big player in the movie and entertainment world. If they had gone down the route of a games machine we would have had the console on schedule. DVD9 is fine for games and will be for this generation. They should have gone the M$ route and sold an add on only for those who are interested in HD movies and not force the format on everyone.

[nick @ Oct 12th 2006 5:57PM]

"You guys really need to stop busting on Sony. So what if it comes out late. I'd rather wait and have it done right than buy a console filled with bugs.
Sony is only one who completely redesigned there system to make a truly "nextgen" console. This takes time and I understand that... and so should you."

Nate,

Maybe you should work on your English skills and grammar. That way you could release a next-gen comment that wasn�t full of errors and bugs.

Let's face it witty posts take time and I understand you didn�t make time� And so should you

I only bash you because the PS3 is about as shoddy as your comment.

Wii60!!!!!!

[tiuk @ Oct 12th 2006 5:58PM]

Well, I wouldn't exactly call it "suffering".

[Chris @ Oct 12th 2006 6:10PM]

"and the Wii...? This has to be one of the least exciting product launches in video game console history... congrats on not having a product shortage during launch... Hopefully you sell all 2 million of them. If it's anything like the SuckCube, they are in trouble. At least the SuckCube had a normal controller... not some stupid "wand" lol"

I don't even think that SuckCube is a good renaming of GameCube. LameCube would've worked though. Either way, do you have "sony fanboy" stitched into your forehead in red thread? Because that is possibly the only way you could make it more obvious.

[What the... @ Oct 12th 2006 6:24PM]

LOL, no I don't... I just have higher standards for games... and the Wii looks like a complete waste of money. I am a PC gamer... None of these consoles will ever catch up to PCs.

But, I do have an old beat up PS2 with one game! Madden. Well, actually, several games... but they are all Madden. I re-up my Madden subscription every year. I don't intend on buying a PS3 until the price drops.

(Actually, its not all true, I think there are like two other games that came with my PS2, Ratchet and Clank and some ATV game... they suck.)

[Tom @ Oct 12th 2006 7:40PM]

"the Wii looks like a complete waste of money. I am a PC gamer... None of these consoles will ever catch up to PCs." ~ What the...

Since you're a PC gamer you might actually like the Wii. You might be interested to know that "wand" you so despise can actually be pointed right at the screen. You see, it has motionsensor that allows mouse-like controls in FPS games and RTS games, which are the two biggest genres for PC. So for you to suggest that Wii is a poor choice for someone who likes the typical PC title... well that leads me to believe you are simply a graphics whore, and care nothing for the actual gameplay present in PC games.

[Paul S @ Oct 13th 2006 12:19AM]

Um why not get Madden for the PC if the PC is so dang great and consoles like the PS2, Wii, , PS3 are a waist but for Madden?

[sendeth @ Oct 12th 2006 6:24PM]

buy a 360 and you will see what a joke is. i'm on my 4th one. one gave me the red eye of death, and the other 3 lock up about every hour. not to mention, it is very easy to slow it down graphically. even in oblivion, it slows down for the buy and sell screen in the shops. i had a ps1 for 10 years. when it started to go, i just turned it over on it's top. my little brother still has it. not to mention, the ps3 will be the equivilent to a super computer just 15 years ago. who ever asked if anyone was planning on buying on......seriously use your head. that's why the preorders were filled within an hour.

oh, by the way, 360 support hasn't even answered their phones for 3 weeks. "please have your serial number and gamertag ready......busy signal."

[Bro @ Oct 12th 2006 6:51PM]

You're doing something wrong!

[alex @ Oct 12th 2006 6:26PM]

FecksBox ThreeDicksTee
Phony Gaystation / WaylayStation / Pay(through the nose)Station etc etc
LameCube / GameN00b / Gaycube ... ad infinitum.

Oh and Wii of course, though that one writes itself.

How about Engadget add a "FANBOY" button next to the positive and negative buttons on this comment system? Then we could just skip over the dross.

[fear sneachta @ Oct 12th 2006 6:33PM]

Eh aren't we getting a bit off the point here guys? The post was about the PS3 being possibly being delayed in Europe AGAIN. I'm not gonna buy one as I haven't got a spare half a grand lying about, but the disdain Sony shows for its European customers is sickening. I hope the others gain market share because of it, it's no more than Sony deserve.

[Clouds @ Oct 12th 2006 7:17PM]

What the i think you really need to get your facts straight, anyone who actually looks into the wii and knows what its about knows its a truely exciting product, only true fanboys like yourself who just bad mouth something without the facts really don't think its good.

I am interested in all these delays it doesn't bode well for sony in my eyes, i can't quite see how they can't get it ready on time. For those people saying that it isn't a problem that they have only produced a few units, i think you are mistaken it shows utter disregard for the consumer by sony, they might aswell push all the release dats back and just give them out to a select few because thats bassically what they are doing (and im sure alot of people would complain if they saw that). The reason why ps3 might be sold out is because there are so little of them not because there is so high a demand. Personally i feel let down europe is always at the back end of things and this is just another reason to feel disheartened about sony, why are the other countrys getting it but not us? just doesnt seem fair or make sense especially when the promise of the ps3 was that of universal releases.

The thing is if they wait too long to release the thing, what will happen is, computers will gain very fast with all the upgrades that are comming out now, and the suposed greatness of the graphics will soon not look so good in comparison, which in turn will make the price seem more extravigent because if people already have a high spec comp then there is no need for this expensive high spec machine. I also feel it will have a negative effect on the blue ray/ hd dvd battle and so i think in generally ps3 is shoving its advantages in the bin.

[Jonny @ Oct 12th 2006 7:21PM]

If your going after the ones Best Buys getting, get there nice and early.

The doors open at 8am, and we dont expect to get more than 5-20 per store in. :D

[Rich Ricio @ Oct 12th 2006 9:33PM]

im in south africa, played xbox 360 a month a go. PGR looked liked Gran Turismo 3!!! when i played it.
I don't care how long it takes i'll wait for ps3 oh ya boned this 30 year old woman tonight. one thing better PS3... im sorry you probably all virgins...PS3'S a MAN's console

[philantr0py @ Oct 12th 2006 9:47PM]

Dude are you retarded, or half-blind, or hired by Sony or simply in self-denial? Have you actually played an xbox 360? How can you say PGR3 looks just like Gran Turismo 3?

[muddboggr @ Oct 13th 2006 12:06AM]

"It should be noted we have no independent confirmation of the following information,"

Well there's the disclaimer, so where's the follow-up, Engadget?

Where's the line in this article that says your reporter actually, you know, did some reporting, and called Sony to confirm that Kutaragi made these comments?

Where's the line in this article that says your reporter actually, you know, did some reporting, and wrote the Spanish website for confirmation that their reporter actually interviewed Kutaragi?

Oh, not here.

Way to go, Engadget Rumor Central. You never let me down with your displayed professionalism.

[Tooth Fairy @ Oct 13th 2006 4:58AM]

Just take a look on the ps3 site. In the "Ask a Question" section you just need to click on "Launch Date".

http://eu.playstation.com/ps3/index.html

So you won�t need a independent confirmation in this case, cause Sony confirms it.

[Paul S @ Oct 13th 2006 12:16AM]

Drove past 2 EB games and people are lining up for the Wii pre-orders at. I scoffed at one clerk in the mall when she said they'd be lining up at midnight. She was right. So there is more anticipation for this Wii than the PS3. Which should piss off some of you Sony fanb.. er um fangirls a bit.

I won't get my pantys in a wad like you Sony fangirls if i don't get my Wii on day one. Unlike the PS3 i figure I,ll be able to walk in to a store and buy one by February, or May.

[S.A. @ Oct 13th 2006 6:18AM]

Wow that guy is tiny!

[JD @ Oct 13th 2006 9:45AM]

Sony obviously have made an announcement against a further delay for Europe.
http://www.ps3pad.com/ps3news/october/13_sony_ps3_european_delay.html

Sony have rushed out this launch before Christmas to try and steal the Wii's thunder. Maybe they would have been better waiting for a proper worldwide launch with plenty of consoles available next Spring?

[Rama Souto @ Oct 13th 2006 10:17AM]

It seems that the author has a really small world conformed only by North America, Japan and Europe... as he mentions Europe as the rest of the world... Have you ever tried to see further than your nose�s tip... we might spend as many bucks as you in technology, it doesn�t matter getting our hands on a PS3 is harder. Greetings.

Ramiro form Argentina (A part of the world also).

[Joel L. @ Oct 13th 2006 2:52PM]

The REAL reporters of GamesIndustry.biz decided to do what Engadget's fake reporter/FUD-spreader did not: They actually did some reporting rather than just spread rumors.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=20362

"We are still fully committed to a March 2007 launch date. Ken Kutaragi has not done any media briefings since the Tokyo Game Show, and the story is not true."

Engadget could have checked this before printing this story, picked up a phone, called Sony, found out it isn't true, and saved their credibility. They did not.

Either they just suck at reporting, or they are doing this on purpose, sucking up to their buddies at Microsoft, and giving away XBox 360's in exchange for Engadget's credibility.

I guess readers will have to decide.

Well hey Engadget Editors, here's some TRUTH for you to print: Your reporter on this story is a retarded rumor monkey who didn't care about the truth or your credibility enough to pick up a phone and call Sony to find out if Kutaragi has been doing interviews. And you didn't do your jobs as editors. either.