HP 2133 Mini-Note PC on sale now
By Darren Murph 
posted April 8th 2008 11:03PM
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i didn't catch that. i was aboard the H.S.S. Shagatzee
d'oh! that's H.M.S.
i'm putting on my dunce cap forthwith
eh? howzabouta what now? methinks two of my posts were deleted and now this is horribly out of place.
anyone know if the 4GB version is flash roms like the EEE or an actual SSD?
why would someone pay 800 for a mini-note when they can get a better loptop for a same price?
let me rephrase that, would does the slower, smaller laptop cost more?
does the law of physic still apply here?
ok, let's look at this the only logical way possible:
which hooker would you pay more to sleep with? big, strong, fast running Bertha or small, lithe, light Holly?
jd, your grammar makes me wet
No, the law (in the singular) of physic (which means medicine) does not apply here, as it isn't remotely related to sub-laptop design.
the law of physics i am talking about is: equal and opposite force; and input is always equal to output.
now lets apply this in the loptp biz. why is it the more money we spend, the less good thing we get from a laptop.(the thing is not even more technically more advanced than its counter part.)
i really do hope you review this one, engadget.
Hands on with AutoTom's reply:
At first glance, you would be tempted to think that this little guy had no substance. And you'd be right. But what it lacks in pure power, it more than makes up for that dearth with a miniscule size that is to die for. For we can all agree: the less we see of his posting, the better off we are.
$749 for bluetooth? Forgetaboutit!!!!
Im actually considering one of these over an Eee.
I would probably get the $550 model, that has Linux, but has the better processor/hard drive/ram.
I have my own licenses of XP, and could buy Vista, if I actually thought it would run.
I would probably put Ubuntu on it though. Im a HUGE fan of it, but since I do alot of gaming on my home computer, it was just taking up space, because I would never boot into it. If Im going to be on the go, with a laptop, there is no need for gaming, so that would be the perfect chance for me to use Linux.
Damn... These things even have gigabit ethernet on them. It's seriously looking like an upgrade from my eee 701 over the 900. Better resolution.. bigger keyboard.. gigabit ethernet.. wireless a.. Express card upgrade port.
Only thing lacking is the touch display and the lack of CPU power. They could have at least gone with the AMD Geode (which I hear beats the c7)
1.19 kilos with the 4GB SSD sounds kinda heavy.
This summer when VIA's Isaiah processor comes out, all the CPU complaints here will be a distant memory.
It's pin compatible with the existing C7-M's so they will be able to switch to the processor immediately. It will be 2x-4x faster then the current C7-M.
I'm an Apple guy. I'll admit it. But this is the first non-Apple product in a REALLY long time that i'm considering buying... I'd definitely want to rock Linux on it though, not freakin' vista...
Looks like it's also available in the UK through an official HP reseller - $900 for the $750 version!! God save the Queen!!
http://www.rm.com/Secondary/Products/Product.asp?cref=PD1164671
1.2Ghz though, If it has been the 1.6Ghz I might have gone for it. But the via sounds awful enough never mind going for the 1.2Ghz .
True, it seems Isiah will be pretty decent, both on performance and battery life. Does anyone know though if there is going to be an equivalent upgrade to the Chrome9 graphics?
For those of you that are having problems purchasing through the section of the site linked to in the article and don't want to have to actually talk to someone, try this link:
http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/ctoBases.asp?oi=E9CED&BEID=19701&SBLID=&ProductLineId=539&FamilyId=2769&LowBaseId=23430&LowPrice=$1,439.00
(I know it's a weird link.. but it works, honest)
Has anyone seen dates / prices for UK please?
(Aside from Clove who haven't stated which model etc their pre-order price applies to)
Ok, I'm confused. I thought by definition a umpc was a small tablet pc, like 7 inches or less screen. This would be more of a sub-notebook.
Anyone had a problem on the hp site, I try to add a mini-note to my cart, but it redirects me to the hp business section solutions page.
Is this available to Canadians? I don't see it on HP.ca
Wow... HP really, really missed the point here. It's a crying shame, because the design is quite gorgeous, and it's the first Eee competitor that I've gotten excited about.
But the price-performance thing sinks it. The only one with a flash hard drive is the cheapest model. No options for an 8GB or 16GB flash hard drive. The best performer they make has quite respectable specs besides the processor, but you'll never know it having to run the pig that is Windows Vista.
Vista... what are they smoking here? They have wide-open access to install XP on this machine - Microsoft threw them a bone to do so just recently - and they pass it up to load Vista. Even if they could get Vista to perform adequately on this - a BIG if - it'll be miserably slow compared to XP.
Other problems:
- no Linux options for the fastest configurations
- no option for the larger battery on the slower configurations
- the pathetic VIA processor
- no optical drive (no problem at sub-$500, but a problem at this price point)
- makes computers like the Dell Inspiron 1525 look more attractive
Perhaps HP will be successful with this piece - it is a pretty computer, but the geek crowd will flock instead to the new 9-inch Eee.
I think it's too expensive for what you are getting.
There are better products out there, which aren't much bigger and pack a lot more.
Toshiba's T series - comes with Core 2 Duo 1.66 and a multidrive AND 13.3" screen AND 250GB harddrive AND a 9 cell batter and costs $900.
I understand that the HP is suppose to be "ultra portable" but check this...
TOSHIBA
Notebook Depth: 22.7 cm
Notebook Thickness: 3.4 cm
Notebook Width: 31.0 cm
Notebook Weight (including Battery): 2.09 kg
HP
Notebook Depth: 16.5 cm
Notebook Thickness: 2.7 cm
Notebook Width: 25.5 cm
Notebook Weight (including Battery): 1.27 kg
As you can see, they are both comparable, except the weight which i feel the HP has a clear advantage, but i would sacrifice the weight for the bigger screen, the DVD drive, more harddrive space, full keyboard and bigger battery....
Who's with me??
Sorry, i meant U series...
It's a valid point that you can get a better machine for not a whole lot more money--or even the same price--but I think you're missing the point, as shown with the comparable weights. Weight and quality keyboard are the killer features here, and why I ordered the $750 one. I don't need to bring a DVD drive on the road. I don't need significant power, so long as it runs fine, which I think it will, especially when I downgrade to XP. Weight is extremely important, as is the ability to type for extended periods, as is the relatively lowe cost. The closest competition, I think, is something like the Lenovo X61, but the X61 is nearly twice the price.
The Toshiba is twice as big, 2392 CCs versus the EEE's 1136 CCs and weighs more than 50% more. I've played with both and the EEE is the one that you will keep with you.
As this system is not meant for content creation, it should be well suited for the basics.
In an interview one of the HP developers said a 64GB SSD will be available, but for $1000.
An XP downgrade is going to be available on May 15th. Don't know why they didn't make it available from the get-go, but it will be an option.
You can buy the larger battery for the lower configurations if you want it.
The processor is the big negative, but it sounds like they were 1) concerned about price and 2) eager to get to market. They are making a big splash here, and getting a jump on Dell and others. Also, how big of an issue is the processor going to be if you switch to XP?
I think a lot of people are willing to sacrifice the built in optical drive for size/weight. How much does an external cost, anyway? $100? No big deal, and I get the sense this will rarely be a users only computer
It's got better specs than the EeePC at the same price point, but it's also quite a bit larger, which is unfortunate. I'm also not sure I like the idea of running SuSE on it.
Is this what the MacbookAir should have been?
The MBA was meant to be this amazing product, but how was it really different from a MB? Thinner and lighter, but lower spec and more expensive, and it didn't really change anything. This, however, could change how laptops are used. And if Apple could work their magic on this form factor with OSX (which can run on an iPhone) and a built in HSDPA modem then they could have something revolutionary.
Managed to find a couple of pages on the UK HP site.
http://h40059.www4.hp.com/hp2133/
which links to
http://www.rm.com/FE/Products/Product.asp?cref=PD1164671
availability showing as end of May 2008
Wow, this is great news, I'm really looking forward to this machine, as a side not it already has a community website, here;
http://mininoteuser.com
Not getting rid of my macbook air yet/