Nokia's N810 stoops to a mouthwatering $299
By Darren Murph 
posted Jul 18th 2008 7:23AM
posted Jul 18th 2008 7:23AM
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Skifree, here i come! (thanks Jon!)
omg very mouthwatering indeed.
If it's not a phone, what is it? A mini laptop?
Yes it is a mini Linux laptop. No kidding!
closer to a PDA but a powerful one
hello!
the N810 Wi-Max was already launched at CTIA in April..
Does the wimax version have the same specs other than the new radio?
Yeah, it's just 810 with WiMax, no other difference. Not called 830 either, so not a successor.
you idiot the iphone is cheaper!!
didnt you hear steve-o-jobs?
its MORE affordable, he would never lie to us!
+1 for obvious troll, -1 for dumb response.
+1 for a "yo mama" comeback.
That was too funny!! +1
Thanks engadget..... for posting this. I feel more and more people need to learn about apple alternatives. The N810 is a wonderful gadget which not many people know. The more people know and use it..... the more they will appreciate.
Apple has an internet tablet?
Last I checked the iPhone is a phone and the N810 is a tablet with no cellular ability at all. That's like comparing a TV with a microwave.
if it has no cellular ability how the hell am i making phone calls? oh thats right 3rd party VoIP apps, how forgetful of me.
He was obviously saying that people need to learn that there are other choices than Apple. Not that
Hmm a full screen with a slide out keyboard.
Darn it !!! Apple would not have the balls to copy that would they ? That would hardly be innovative.
Perhaps apple could come out with something really innovative. Here is an idea Steve; what about a tactile screen... when you touch it, it depresses. Oh nooooo, Doooohh !!!!
Te Nokia really does kick ass. And it works out of the box.
A tactile screen like what RIM are doing with the Thunder?
RIMs doing one haptics project, and Nokia's doing another. Apple might be, but naturally isn't leaking anything but strategic falsifications, so nobody knows...
Btw Nokia's Tube(5800( appears in new Batman movie about 3 times and still i ahven't seen any picture of it form the movie. Someone download the damn thing via torrent and take screenshot!
N810 is one sexy device, but i'm waiting for next Nokia tablet as i still think it's not even worth over N800.
How's the browser on this mofo? Any good?
First off, Apple wouldn't use a mechanical keyboard for a device that size.
I can't say they wouldn't use a sliding mechanism, since Apple had shown some sort of sliding tablet design for a convertible notebook, but it was larger than this Nokia device. This Nokia does have a cute-looking keyboard, but not as cute as the Experia. I still think BlackBerry have the most practical mech keyboards of them all.
I believe the browser is Konqueror. What it is, it's desktop class and supports Flash. The hi res screen makes a massive difference.
The browser is MicroB, based on Mozilla Gecko (ie. the same browser engine as used on Firefox).
The latest version on the current Maemo release (Diablo) is very good IMHO.
Does javascript/ajax, flash, etc. without bigger problems.
The browser is Opera I believe, not Konqueror but it is fully capable of flash. It's actually fast enough to do streaming video flash sites like youtube or whatever so that's cool. Also, it's 800x480, which is enormous on a device this size, though you don't get much advantage out of it if you have bad eyesight.
Steffen, You are veryu learned but I don't think that you are up this one. Apple is rumoured to be developing a iPhone-slider.
Just goes to show,
the browser is based on the first version of internet explorer
/joke
The browser is no longer opera. It is microb..... which is complete firefox. Opera was used back in 2007..... but nokia had shifted to open source microb with the os2008 firmware update.
You can find more info @ internettablettalk.com
we have one to play with at work. the browser blows.
I know I know, flame me away I dare insult the 810.
flash is retched on it. the little strong arm just can't keep up with the most basic things.
it frustrated all of us and we thanked the new york office for sending it over and then tucked it back into the box it came in.
did palm emulation work on this???
i would love to replace my aging sony clie!
Yes it does.
Yes -- ACCESS released 'Garnet VM', which is a full Palm implementation on the device.
Is there a GBA emulator for this?
Actually, there is a GBA emulator, as well as SNES and NeoGeo.
Hmm with the videos of this running android I might be tempted to get this.
To bad nokia doesn't turn this into a phone. Would love to have something like that as my smart phone.
it's 299 on tigerdirect too
Lol.
Tempting...
Must...find...specs...
See Nokia OS2008 site for the N800/N810 devices:
http://europe.nokia.com/A4579470
And Maemo site for the open source & developer stuff:
http://maemo.org/
See Nokia OS2008 site for the N800/N810 devices:
http://europe.nokia.com/A4579470
And Maemo site for the open source & developer stuff:
http://maemo.org/
Yep, see them; TWICE!
Why can't they just stick a 3G phone in these. If it only had a phone inside it would be the perfect device.
It's a bit too big to use as a phone really. I think Nokia's solution of pairing it over Bluetooth with a 3G phone is perfect. It's really, really simple to get surfing over your phone's 3G connection.
How does this compare to something like an eee? ANyone out there used both?
This is completely mobile... fits into your pocket comforably without a significant bulge. And it has good battery life for an always on experience combined with gtalk and skype..... it is good.
Rudy said: "Hmm with the videos of this running android I might be tempted to get this."
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I was thinking the same thing.
I have one of these, and while it is a nice device, the performance issues limit its usefullness.
It has a very underpowered CPU incapable of playing video usefully unless it is heavily modified to fit the screen and minimize CPU demand, and running two applications at the same time (browser and player) is about the most it can do.
Too bad, as the form factor is great, and the screen is excellent.
Gylman-
You couldn't be more wrong. I rip DVDs to this thing and play them all the time. It can handle several browser windows and a video at the same time without too much trouble. Thanks for playing.
jackcutts.... OK, then I guess my last 5 years dealing with about half a dozen different mobile devices from iPaqs to Palms to UMPCs to the N800 and N810 were just a hallucination.
Or maybe you are OK playing videos at 400 x 220 res at 23 fps. I'm not. I want 640 x 480 at 25-30 fps. And I want to be able to play multiple formats without converting or resizing. I can do that right now with my HX4700.
Anyone who seriously researches this device will see that being underpowered is the main problem with the N8XX series. I'm not trying to denigrate the N810. I bought one with the greatest hopes for it and use it routinely for browsing - it is absolutely the best device for that purpose. But it is not a general purpose "mini computer". Number one on every N8xx fanboy's wish list is more processing power. Give me that, and this would overnight be the #1 handheld device in my opinion (though it also needs a good PDF reader).
No.
The problem is not a weak CPU; it's not having code to access the IVA, which would let us offload video codecs like almost every other device on the market does. So playing high-bitrate video is a problem. As long as you don't do that, the CPU isn't an issue; it's just fine as a general-purpose computer.
So it has trouble in this one area (which may be very important to you), and you claim that it has an underpowered CPU, rather than that it's not the best device for your particular needs. And then, of course, you're wrong rather than right.
I don't know if you have one of these thing because I have 700, N800, and both can handle video. The 800 will do video even better, I have full length movies on 2 gig mmc and they run perfectly. The 810 is even stronger so I bet there is no problem with video at all. Also, you mention that it can't handle 2 or more apps, I mean it's a handheld, when do you ever need more than a few apps. There just isn't enough screens for it. Compare to a laptop it is underpowered, compare to a handheld, it's one of the more powerful ones.
Gylman-
I think I've identified the problem. You demand completely unreasonable performance out of a very small device and then bemoan the processor speed. This isn't meant to be a full-resolution HD video player or a video format converter. Any fool understands that you would need to convert video BEFORE putting it on the device, not converting on the fly and expecting the thing to play flawlessly. Sheesh. Have some perspective. Maybe you should write another complaint because you can't run GIMP and have three video conferences in HD at the same time. This thing should be quad core I suppose. Lame.
If it had a 3g radio, I would have gotten it instead of the iPhone. Maybe two years when my contract is up I'll give it another look see.
Yet another person who thinks the N810 is a phone. But yeah, getting one in addition to your iphone would be lame since the iphone can't tether.
anybody successfully get it to tether to a T-Mobile BB curve yet?
I don't have a N810 but I paired my T-Mobile branded BB Curve with my N800 fine.
Remember to set the TCP in your BB to wap.voicestream.com
I mean I have no problem tethering using the BB Curve.
Interesting product. I suppose there will be a market for users who prefer archaic devices. Both in looks and with the OS that powers it.
you mean an archaic devices that don't have flash or the ones that have video conferencing? get off your high horse.
horrible use of the word archaic in connection to this device.
@jubei
don't you think that this archaic looking device looks alot like theIpohne without the slider, and almost exactly like the iphone with the proposed slider.
lmao - you are such a waste of space.
I've got the slightly older N800. Love it.
I had an eee-pc for a couple of months but sold it to a coworker. It is overpriced and not much more portable than my laptop.
The Nokia N's are more portable. Video playback is okay.. have to keep overall bit rate
If they would just put quad band GSM and US Spec 3G 3.6mb/sec in here I'd be a happy camper. Have no interest in it otherwise.
299 sounds pretty damn good. I had the 700, the 800N and didn't think I would buy this one...but at that price....I'm tempted. Built in GPS and the keyboard makes it much more useful than the previous model. But seriously, I think I would have a hard time finding a compUSA around here, thought they were all closed already.
They're opening.
CompUSA itself went out of business, but TigerDirect bought them, and is re-opening the stores as CompUSA..
...And the CompUSA web is now just a different-colored clone of the TigerDirect web
I was thinking of getting this device last week but did not. At this price point it seems so tempting now.
I'm just happy the sim-ed image on the screen is of my hometown. XD
Moving on…
For the features it packs, I don't believe $299.00 is beyond reasonable. Considering that it is NOT designed to be a phone (I'm talking to you, iPhone users), it seems to offer quite a bit of functionality. Yes, you have to carry it around with something that has a cellular radio in it, but this is not designed to REPLACE your phone; it’s a supplement to it. For those who travel often and don't need a full laptop/netbook/whatever else people consider it is a bargain. Movie watching? Expandability via slot? Generous amount of usable screen real estate? Slim form factor? Keyboard? Yep, for that price I could even consider getting one for myself.
$299 where?
Nevermind... idiot.