HP's obviously getting ready to expand its netbook line beyond the
well-received Mini-Note 2133 -- the company recently started teasing the
Vivienne Tam Digital Clutch, and now images and pricing for a "Mini 1000" have appeared on the HP shopping site. As
expected, the new rig is basically a non-glam version of the Digital Clutch, and specs appear to be right in line with what we've seen: 10-inch screen, sub-1-inch thickness, and 2.25-pound starting weight -- and we're guessing the Mini 1000 also gets the upgrade to an Intel Atom over the 2133's VIA C7-M. Not bad at all for a starting price tag of $399 -- hopefully we'll find out a lot more soon.
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posted Oct 26th 2008 4:03PM
I'm guessing it will be for sale on 10/29 because laptopmag has a view review set to go live on the 29th. More importantly the filename of the flash file on HP's site has "102908" which to me seems like a publish date. It wouldn't be too hard to hit 6 instead of 9 on your numberpad when putting the new banner into their content management system.
Except for the fact that the swf file imbedded into the page:
http://hpshopping.speedera.net/www.shopping.hp.com/shopping/swf/banners/homepage_810x120_home_102908.swf?hpUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping&userTier=
Only displays the 10" mini 1000 content with the correct query string on the end. Removing the query string or changing the swf name to have "102608" in it will cause it to revert to a gold colored advert about saving $219 on a dv5 special memory offer. IJH had it correct - it's a hype tactic, granted not nearly as subtle as something Steve Jobs would orchestrate, but, hype nevertheless
I dont see it on there website :/
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Wow what a good price. this would be perfect for carrying around school.
yeah I know it beats carrying around my 15 lb toshiba gaming laptop 17" wide with what seems to be a 3 or 4 lb power supply that looks bigger than a brick... or carrying around an 18 lb show stopper.
at least. i've been waiting for this netbook, but, plastic casing?
Rumors are that this is the cheaper, consumer-oriented model, but that there will also be a "true" 2133 successor that's more expensive but also keeps the aluminium casing.
This looks gorgeous though - very nice, HP. Hopefully it still has the great 2133 keyboard and the 1280x768 screen.
Most laptops have plastic casing. MBP's and thinkpads are the exception, not the rule.
don't you think the aluminum case was overkill? it jacked up the price way too much.
like others said though, there's supposed to be an improved mini note, so I guess everyone gets what they wanted in the end, and I want THIS.
This looks pretty good. It's too bad I already got an Acer Aspire One. Why are all the American companies 6 months behind in the netbook market?
It's not just the netbook market they are behind in..
Last I checked, HP mini-note was the only one to bring 1024x800... sounds to me like that American company is 6 months ahead of the game. I just hope this one is also that res.
This looked exciting until I saw the trackpad buttons on the side a la Aspire One...
If it's anything like the Mini Note, the buttons are a million times better than the Aspire One. IMO, what ruins the Aspire One's buttons isn't so much the position as the awful hard, clicky action you have to lean into. If you could just dab them then it would be much better.
Indeed, not nice to work with. Has anyone done both a proper keyboard and touchpad yet? I can't think of any, seems it's either the the touchpad buttons, right shift or function keys that are gimped in some way.
The ASUS N10 has a proper keyboard, I wonder why they stuck with the lame right shift key for the Eee line, the slim one was released after they made the N10.
Wasn't the HP model that had the buttons on the side out months before the Aspire One?
The buttons on the side isn't something new for HP.
I'm waiting to see how Netbooks influence this year's Black Friday sale.
$400 and $500 laptops have been getting millions of people online at circuit City's and Best Buy's for years. And for the past few years (2003 - 2006) the cheap notebooks lacked WiFi and a DVDRW.
Now the average netbooks is $400 and they include WiFi, Windows XP and lack CD drives altogether.
If I were the store executives, I'd be marketing my Netbooks along side USB CDRW drives made by my store's owned company (like Best Buy ownes Dynex). I'd sell you a Netbook, a CDRW drive and the protection plan on the drive (Dynex for example is already marked up at least 200%)
But, somehow, I just know the biggest demanded items this year will be WII, Wii Music and Gears of War 2 (since I expect the game disks themselves to sell out) I'm going to do what I did last year - buy a bunch of Wii's and sell them on christmas eve at a profit over $150. One of the Wii's I sold last christmas I made $400 for.
You were selling Wii's on Christmas eve?
What a sad life you live my friend..
Being a scalper isn't something to be proud about. It's not clever. You're a leech. Think about it.
they have a month and a half to make millions of gears 2 discs. they will NOT run out you jack ass.
i wish this kinda shit was illegal.
granted we would lose gamestop....but no biggie there right....??
They haven't sold out of a video game in... what, like 6 years? Yeah, Gears of Wars is going to sell out... right...
@Flashpoint
Agreed on the Wii and Wii Music, but there's no way in Hell that Gears of War 2 will sell out.
@decapitator
Cry more. If you're willing to make the investment, there's nothing wrong with taking advantage of supply and demand.
Ugh, *decapitor. Stupid comment system.
huuuu... and what about finding a real job?? a job you actually enjoy and make money with?
LOL i love these fools....
Flashpoint, more power to ya.
And for the people above saying "ZOMG SCALPERS ARE THE DEVIL!!!"
uhhh....Hello?....How many people use eBay?
I've been selling stuff on eBay and StubHub for 3 years and it can become a career easily if you do it full time and play your cards right.
I made $40000 last year just selling tickets ALONE to hockey games. Not including football, concerts, or stage performances....total is around $75000. And I'm listing tickets and packaging purchases for 1 hour every night after i'm done with my normal job.
@ everyone on this post who has rationalized the ethics of scalping:
Buying goods at retail and reselling them for profit is scalping. Scalping is illegal in 38 states, and the remaining 12 at least have regulations that limit the percentage increase allowed over the msrp. We as a society have deemed it an amoral action. Enforcement of scalping laws is almost nonexistent, because if you think about it we would need an immense task force and there are much more important things wrong in our society. Ticket agencies like Stubhub and Ticketmaster have lobbied for relaxation of these laws, because while they may say that their main business is legitimate and that they are offering a safe place for season ticket holders etc. to sell tickets that they cannot use, their real business is in taking percentages of ticket sales, so they of course want to see tickets sold for as much as possible. I have researched why they are allowed to stay in business and it has become clear that there is money changing hands between ticket agencies and politicians. As for Ebay, of course it exists and can be used to sell tickets etc at a mark up, but that doesn't mean it's legal to do so. Ebay is meant for other more legitimate commerce. My point is, you can feel free to scalp all you want; your ethical decisions are your own and the government is clearly not going to step in any time soon, but don't you DARE post here insinuating that the rest of us law abiding citizens are chumps and crybabies. YOU are the reason I can't afford to take my son to Fenway Park to see a ballgame.
decapitor, I tried to read your post, but all I could hear whining.
It's not my fault if I put a Wii on eBay and the people bid it up far over MSRP.
Not all of your supposed "law-abiding" people are chumps and crybabies.
Just you.
@ decapitor:
actually, its called being a reseller and/or a distributor. While you may not be the official one, that is what you are doing by buying, then reselling product. unless its intellectual property that is copyrighted and it is an end product (not repackaged/rebranded), its completely legal.
if it is, you are claiming that all distributors and resellers are illegal.
And they finally stuck an Atom in it.
I kinda like this. Kinda.
I still want a cheap netbook with a decent touch screen.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/9965-gigabyte-m912v-netbook-hands-preview.html
This was the only decent review of it that i found. Too bad its about $850
Hope they keep the HD resolution from the 2133
and I was hoping for a VIA Nano CPU instead
A VIA Nano would not fit in a netbook. It consumes around 25W, compared to 2.5W for the Atom.
There are a few versions that use the Nano architecture...some work in netbooks:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/03/first-via-nano-based-netbook-spotted/
If I can install Ubuntu on this thing, then yes, I will probably buy it.
Why wouldn't you be able to? I'm pretty sure you can install Linux on your digital calculator watch.
actually, IBM did have a watch that ran linux, but it was only a lab prototype.
you can still buy a PalmOS watch, if you look around hard enough - google for "fossil palm watch".
When are they going to make higher end notebooks (non netbook) of this size? I think a Core 2 Solo/Duo ULV could definitely make it into a notebook of this size, and would be a far faster. With a lower power chipset (Netbooks actually do not use the lowest power chipset available), battery life probably would not suffer noticeably. While I think that netbooks in their current form were a great idea, it is difficult to do real work on them. If priced around $900-$1000, they would fly off the shelves.
So first people complain about 400$ being too much for a netbook, and now you are suggesting to make one with a better processor for 1000$?
I don't think you will need a better processor for gaming in these netbooks.. and if you do you are not in the correct market..
@ Ashwin,
you can go for a Panasonic R7 or R5 if you can find one. it has almost everything you want.
it's 2 lbs only (including the battery), waterproof keyboard, 17mm keyspan
plus Panasonic is really good at power management: 8 hours with standard configuration according to their website.
Am I the only person who is dissappointed that this thing doesn't have the via nano.
No. 1234321 is also dissapointed.
I am as well.
However, with an Atom, there's a small possibility that this thing may be really compatible with OSx86. It's not a make or break, though.
If they manage to keep the 1280x768 resolution like their previous 8.9 minibook, it will have a leg up on everyone.
I will ditch my Eee 900ha and get this instead.
Same 1024x600 as everyone else, then its just another blah.
Of course they've downgraded to a 1000 x 600 resolution screen just like everyone else. They're not going to offer you a 1280 x 800 screen for so much less than an EeePC.
I bet you their high end model will have the nice screen. Perhaps it'll even have the same casing as the current Mini-note 2133 (which is beautiful on a netbook).
I'm also hoping that one of the models will have the VIA Nano processor as well.
yep... 1280x768. love it!
I just got off of the phone HP Sales, and the banner was put there early to "create awareness". They said that it probably wouldn't be available for purchase today, but to check back later this week. Also, they said it still has a VIA processor but didn't know which one (fingers crossed for nano!)
No my perfect netbook would have the nano and discrete nvidia graphics. a hybrid 32gb ssd w/ a real spinning hd for media and a touchscreen would also be great. a real premium netbook. sorta like a baby tx2000.
That is so hotness.
WHY in the HELL do they have it on their web site, posted as an item for sale, if it's not even launched yet? This is typical HP. I've seen them do this with numerous products in the past. This is one of the many reasons why HP doesn't get my business: advertise ahead of time, get peoples' hopes up, but don't sell it.
You seriously complain because HP will only sell this in a whopping THREE days? Crybaby much?
well at least its not pink anymore, but i must say im a bit pissed off. i´ve been waiting for word to drop on hp´s 10"er for months and after all this time they are just gona chuck an atom processor and the standard 1024x600 screen in there. dissapointing. very dissapointing.
Everybody wants more for less money, don't they.
I'm SOOOO stoked about this product, i've been waiting. Here we goooo! Will this be able to run OSX now? Due to the atom processor? Hit me on the PM or email me with some answers por favor [ timwmedia@gmail.com ]
Graci
Why can't Apple make something like this? I waited months for their new laptops, hoping for a sub £500 (yes, sub £500!) machine running OS X in the form factor of an EEE PC 1000 or this new HP. But they launch something larger at over twice the price! If HP can make a credible machine for £250 ($400) why can't Apple take the technology in the amazing iPod Touch v2 and create a nice take it anywhere WiFi, Bluetooth and SSD equipped chuck it in your backpack mini laptop?
We live in an era of cloud computing, where the web browser is king, not the all powerful desktop app. If Apple don't realise this soon, their current (deserved) 7 year reign of glory will fall to Microsoft Surface powered devices.
It has happened before...
Relevancy FAIL.
Considering how Microsoft Surface is a large table, I don't think that will happen anytime soon.
Just get a Wind and Hackintosh it. I think OS X runs on the IBM IdeaPad as well
I love my Dell Mini 9... but I must say when I was testing all the different netbooks, HP's One Note did have the best keyboard of all, but the VIA Processor pushed me away from it. But it's little too late for HP... I've got my Dell Mini 9, and I love it.
10-inch Mini.
I swear. Any chick that says that has got to be one major whore.
you are an utter failure as a man and a human being
"you are an utter failure as a man and a human being"
- that's what she said.
@ iKurt: Thank you for having a sense of humor.
@ Uncontrol: Being a knight in shining armor from the basement is not going to show the ladies how noble you are.
It's nice to see another option, but I think I am going to stick with the Lenovo S10, just because of the buttons, build quality (though I hear the HP is very well-built), and less bezel. It might actually fit into a stocking!
I don't see why it has to be a clamshell design. I want a mobile browser with a slideout keyboard that I can maybe slide in some deep pockets. Sick of this inbetween phone and laptop size that doesn't make it more convienent to carry but does lack in power, lose-lose product for me.
Yeah, I sort of wondered the same thing. I saw a video of that new Intel form factor, the UrbanMax Mobile PC, and it seemed pretty cool. Most tablets fail because they're just too big and heavy. Basing one on a netbook design, and going for ultralight seems like a way to maybe solve this problem. Course almost immediately I wondered what you need the physical keyboard for since you can just use a virual one for typing in web pages addresses and filling in forms, so if its really a netbook, maybe you don't even need a keyboard... either way it would be nice to see some more innovation in this space, even if it means some of these things will be FAIL.
With all the freakin' Eee PC models ASUS is introducing, they couldn't try a touchscreen tablet form factor?
[Yes I know they're supposedly coming out with something, bet its just a touchscreen laptop though, which will be FAIL].
I like how they put it up on the front page, but don't link to anything. No information, no pricing, nothing in the search either. Just that picture on the front page.
I think $399 qualifies as a price.
But only if you count "starts at" as substantial pricing.
Well, I just ordered an Eee 1000 for $449. 6 cell battery... 40G SSD... 1gb ram... yeah, I'm sure that'll do just fine.
notangry
So at the base price of $400 we're probably looking at 1.3 ghz and 3 cell right?
Other than the resolution, does this provide a step up from the 1000ha which is priced similarly with higher specs?
If its the typical Atom N series CPU, its 1.6GHz. If they went with the Z series, then both 1.3 and 1.6GHz CPUs are on offer, at least from Dell in the Mini 12. If its a Via Nano, I have no idea.
upgrade?
I'm hoping for a VIA Nano over an Atom. While the higher-end Nanos do have a higher reported TDP than the Atoms, Intel doesn't report max TDP like VIA and AMD do, they report average TDP, which is why AMD may report higher numbers but actually consume less power. Anyway, the Nano has higher performance per watt and could make this netbook stand out from the pack.
There's so many of these netbooks out now that are interchangeable. Granted, this HP has the sexiness that Dell's Mini Inspiron does for a tad smaller price. I just wish there was a clear, easy decision to make about which one to purchase. All the manufacturers seem like they're just throwing their product out on the market to ride this wave of ultra-mobile laptops instead of distinguishing their entries.
Ahh, the netbook competition is becoming interesting (Read: starting to focus and deliver machine specs I want).
Now, companies, fight to the death!