MSI Wind desktop now available in Japan, slightly less barebones than before
By Ross Miller 
posted Dec 25th 2008 3:05PM
posted Dec 25th 2008 3:05PM
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I can understand a netbook somewhat, but why the hell would anybody buy this when you can get a full system, you know, one with a hard drive and ram? for like 300 on newegg?
Because some people don't want to see a huge ugly box on their desk.
Because of the small, and the quiet, and the low power consumption, and the fact that if all you do is type/go on the internet/listen to music the user experience is pretty much exactly the same. Frankly, many people (maybe not most engadget readers) really don't need a full system.
My friend got a small sized emachine with 21" display for less than 350 at Bestbuy
They make an awesome home file/print server.
I built one using a barebones Wind box from newegg and it's been great.
Yeah I hate standard boxes but mini it's is getting pretty beefy, I have a system with a phenom black, same size...
Mini itx... Stupid iPhone
Great for a small, power saving firewall (pfSense, IPCop, Smoothwall etc.)
looks like a wii
Everything that is white and stands on it side looks like a Wii. Including the Xbox.
With prices like these, sooner or later we won't think of a PC as the traditional box anymore. They'll be everywhere and are considered as appliances. All we need is an instant-on/quick booting OS with an optimized UI for touch screen/web interface.
wow, someone needs to welcome you to the 21st century...
jinsei: Someone needs to bring you back to reality. Most people still consider a PC in a traditional way (that 1 box in the corner of the family room, or that 1 box where you sit and do work). Most people only have 1 PC. They don't think PC as something they use constantly like an appliance.
Hopefully we will see smaller form factors.
touch screens are ok on handheld devices and maybe car infotainement set ups, but for anything using a screen bigger than10" what is necessary is a good voice command software.
Soon even TV remotes will be substituted by small microphones, and kboards & mice will go the way of the dodo, but what will take their place will not be touch tech but voice recognition tech. This is what I use for my company's Uber-digiframes (with Wifi, Skype, landline phone,browser, push e-mail, dtv-b,webcam & mic, motion detection, & other stuff).
Being only a 10" screen my products also use a touch screen steered by a linux icon-based software , but all of my clients bar none tell me that once they start using the voice commands they never touch the screen again, and in fact I plan to drop this feature from the next batch of products.
Humans communicate by voice not by touch and machines should adapt to human needs not the other way around.
The moral of this story?
Buy shares in voice tech companies and sell those of companies producing touch screens bigger than 10". Or even better buy shares in my company (if and when they will be for sale)
I have not head of any such devices on the market.
I am really interestedc can i get mored details about your company?
KilgoreTrout: Soon even TV remotes will be substituted by small microphones, and kboards & mice will go the way of the dodo, but what will take their place will not be touch tech but voice recognition tech.
How is that going to work in a busy crowded office with many people talking at the same time?
How about when you want to type up something private or confidential?
Or simply browse the net whilst watching the tv? The family aren't gonna be happy with you barking commands at the laptop whilst watching the box.
Hmm, if something this small and cheap get powerful enough to churn out HD video in the near future I'd love it. I just want a simple media pc when I get an HDTV
Both the wind and eee desktop look like wiis only with a nice dual core atom 330s.
fo sho
It churns out 720P but stutters 1080P It's the chipset that's the problem. The nvidia Ion was looking good until Intel said nvidia must buy the Intel atom integrated on to the board and must separate them and integrate them on to the Ion platform. Its a big chore and nvidia may abondon the whole project. That is Intel being utter D-cks.
Sorry that was directed at pball_inuyaha. My apologies.
Because you could probably pair it up with this http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2008/10/13519/ and end up having something AWESOME!... maybe...
Yeah, or maybe not.
Does anyone know how well this would run Boxee at standard def? I've been looking for something kinda like this.
Oh wait... Japan. Nevermind!
i would prefer a real computer not this piece of (blank)
Shit? Is that what you meant to say?
yes. that was what i meant to say, i was being respectful of this great website and not dirtying it up with unnecessarily vulgar language (aka youtube).
Who fucking cares?
Is anyone else as uninspired by MSI's products as I am? I've never used their Wind desktops, but I can't help but think they look fragile just by looking at them. Can anyone vouch for their build quality?
I break my Wind all the time.
Sorry.....
I saw an Msi Wind U-100 (netbook) with OSX running on it. I am going to get myself an Msi Wind too (but I am waiting for the U-120 which has a longer battery life...)
well this work fit nicely next to my polar white wii and polar white ds lite. lets just hope they bring it to the states so i dont have to import it.
Nettops are interesting and I foresee an increasing usage, but this one does not seem that *small* to me. Seen from a side it's bigger than an A4 paper. OK, smaller than the typical case, but too big compared with Linutop, AOpen's Mini PC or Asus Eee Box. Even MSI Wind netbook is smaller and it includes a screen. Is this extra space only for the DVD drive? They could put the slot on a side, in parallel with the main board and make the thing a bit thicker but shorter.
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This newer Wind Nettop is kinda a rip-off. I have the original barebones version and it's great. But it was $130 without the optical drive, HD, or RAM. So about $160 without RAM or HD. This new one is over $100 more just to get a slot loading optical drive.
For those questioning the need for these little machines, look no further than your utility bill. Up until recently I always let my gaming machine serve double-duty as a light media server. It's efficient by gaming standards, but I verified that it still eats about 5 times more power than my nettop.
Plus during the summer my gaming PC would raise the temp in my home office 3 to 5 degrees.
It also doesn't hurt that I'm not running my highly overclocked gaming components 24/7.
for those saying this nettop is a ripoff compared to the msi wind original, it looks like this one has the dual core, the original has just single. I love my msi wind nettop original.. great nas/download box
Why would i want this when i could get a netbook for the same price, that comes with ram, screen, and webcam?
D-Sub VGA??? Why?
"Supports two SATAII devices" & "Maximum cost-effectiveness utilized the highest performance and scalability of the 3.5-inch hard drive"
I'll take it that that's an user option of installing either two 2,5" or one 3,5" HDD, right?
ick. its ugly
Now all we have to do is wait for the tech support recording of someone claiming to have "broken their Wind." Or maybe that pun wouldn't work in Japanese...
whoa... this guys are just dishing it out now
i honestly think it looks sleek
could definitely see myself pickin one up at that price
Sane people would spend the extra hundred and get a nice PS3 with linux. I wouldnt mind a great linux machine with upgradable HDD space even if it takes about 2 and half as much space this does.
I got my hands on one the other day and did a quick review here:
http://portablemonkey.com/article/msi-wind-nettop-cd100-jp-review/
This is the big sister of the current verison on sale here in the USA. Comes with NO motherboard information on the CD. Give me a PDF of the tech manual,please. You have to take the case apart and remove the mother board to insert the CF card. Do not buy this item if you intend to boot from the CF slot. It will not POST with a card installed.
You have to take the case apart and remove the mother board to insert the CF card and then when it will not boot past POST. No real instructions on where the front panel plugs into the motherboard, so when you take it apart be aware what and where stuff goes! IMHO the case design just stinks. DVD drive hits the power plug on motherboard, CF card location IMHO
This is not my only MSI computer I love my netbook.