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Lenovo has the shitiest designs and style I have ever seen. This is not bad if you don't care and want a somewhat rugged machine. However, most people - want something that looks as good as it performs. Something that does not look like a construction worker carries around.
Dude, seriously? I guess that's a pretty typical elitist attitude; my stuff looks nicer, so it's better then yours. But you know, most business-minded/professionals care more about functionality over style.
For the record, I love and will always love the styling of IBM/Lenovo over that of glossy laptops that try to sacrifice function for form. Then charge extra for said form when the function is terrible.
as said in the first comment, this is a timeless design. you may hate it but there are many who appreciate and love the design.
I haven't owned a Thinkpad since they were owned by IBM, but those have to be some of the best laptops ever built. In particular the T and X series were tough, light and extremely functional.
Didn't you know? Utilitarian is the new sexy.
with a comment like that...it makes it pretty obvious that you're not in the corporate world, and probably just some kid that trolls around endgadget. The thinkpads are about as a tried and true of a design as there is...if it ain't broke, don't f*ck with it.
Really? When I see someone with a Lenovo I know they mean business.
Apparently that's something I have in common with the majority of the corporate world.
Lenovo makes the BEST looking laptops period: all black, no fingerprint prone materials. To me, all other laptops look shitty in comparison.
@Al
We have been a IBM/Lenovo shop for a long time now. I was worried about the IBM to Lenovo move, but I must say that nothing has changed. They are the same rock solid laptops they were when under the IBM umbrella. I have been so impressed with them that I have sold them on a few family and friends and they love them.
Well, to each his own, but this is a true example of form following function. These laptops are awesome looking and have been since the 90's. The MacBook Pro and the Thinkpads are the pinnacle of laptop design, and are far better looking than any of the crap made by Dell or HP that looks like it was designed by the same person that designed the Pontiac Sunfire.
I also get sick of hearing people bitch about companies needing to change or update the design of the their laptops. A laptop is a slab with a keyboard and a screen in the lid. There are no other viable configurations. What are they supposed to do, add LEDs and gold spinners? Companies have trademark designs, even though the MacBook Pro is "all new" it is still very much the same overall minimalist design (aluminum slab). Likewise the Think Pads. Dell has their designed in the 80's by GM look, and IMO there attempt to create a laptop with "good design", the "Adamo", is a weak effort, when compared to the Apples and Lenovos, and even some stuff from MSI and Asus.
I don't disagree with what everyone said about its function and form. IBM's definitely got the quality. I wouldn't call it 'timeless' on the styling, but rather, economical. Though it's just a keyboard, trackpad, and couple extra keys but I almost wished they could do something minimal to the surface to give it that tiny bit of refreshing design. Every model seems to be almost identical makes the overall 'visual' impression to be a bit blend. IF they have a model design for designer (like w/ trackpad & battery the size of Apple's) I'll be all over it!
Despite what Apple may have convinced you ADD addled mind, minimalistic design does not equate to "Ohh, shiny!". The IBM/Lenovo are the best when it comes to both function and design in Windows based laptops. Thinkpads have always been, on the business end, both the design and build quality equivalent of the Macbook Pros, dating back to the PPC days of Apple. I just wish they would refrain from placing those stupid Intel/Windows stickers on their laptops.
You know, I said it is good if someone wants a rugged machine. However - MOST people want a machine that looks good as well as it performs. So what if it's "corporate" oriented. The majority of people are NOT corporate. They are home/end users. Every day people. Corporate people don't have a choice. I am sure if they did, they would pick something that also looked good.
Noticed I said the design/style is shit. I never said the machine itself was shit. These guys are very durable and can take a beating. Again, they lack in design and style. You CAN have both. I have seen it before and it exists today. For the people that mentioned Apple, go fuck yourselves. I am tired of hearing the back and forth banter and bullshit. I am a PC user. Not an Apple user. I love my windows. However, it doesn't matter.
The people who mostly post here are geeks and nerds. Most normal people do not. Also, who cares if your in the corporate world with your drab black laptop (Lenovo), your drab black phone (Blackberry) with your drab black car (BMW) with your drab black suite, shoes, socks and underwear. Who cares. Just because your stuck with a shit design doesn't mean everyone else should suffer. "It means business". Uh huh. It doesn't mean shit.
Anyways - I am getting off my soap box :)
If you all can't realize that I am not serious and this is all in jest - your more shallow than I thought, or are 12 :D
You said: " However - MOST people want a machine that looks good as well as it performs. So what if it's "corporate" oriented. The majority of people are NOT corporate. They are home/end users. Every day people. Corporate people don't have a choice. I am sure if they did, they would pick something that also looked good."
That's such a biased argument, it makes me want to send you back to school. Yeah we said it's a corporate-themed laptop line, but the fact that a design that has worked so well, and has been loved so dearly by it's users is evident that it works very well. Yes there are a lot of people who would prefer the shiny/glossy/(in my opinion shitty/cheap) laptop they can sit in a coffee shop with and be oogled over by other hipsters. But for, you know, adults who like subtle style, Thinkpads are elegant.
Most corporate poeple that I have met/friended/worked with care, and this is the god-honest truth here, more about function over form any day of the week. Looking good while getting the job done is such a after thought, it's almost not even a secondary objective. Get the job done, and done right is, and will always be, top priority.
Home users should look into the Ideapad line. Flashier colours, more multi-media friend controls/designs, and look, it's "puuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrttttttttttyyyyyyyyy." Seriously, if you want flashy laptops that get you invited to the next circle jerk at the coffee shop, don't look at thinkpads. Go buy your self an Apple, and you'll be the toast at the party if that's your sort of thing.
Dude, I dunno about you, but I'd rather have a plain (read: Lenovo industrial design) girlfriend that puts out (read: has some actual power and features) and actually contributes to the relationship (i.e. will stick around for years and years) than running after a Playmate (read: Apple aesthetic design) who's way out of my league (read: Apple tax) and (stereotypically speaking) will end up divorcing me (read: breaking on me) or cheating on me (read: run Windows instead of OS X, in which case, why are you buying a Mac in the first place?).
Lenovo > Apple.
I absolutely LOVE the Thinkpad design. It never looks old- unlike that shiny junk you can get at Best Buy. I'm not a business user but rather a student and could never imagine wanting anything else.
Well, the "Apple Tax" isn't that much.
I just configured a T500 on Lenovo's site, and a 15" MBP on Apple's site, and the equivalent configurations come out to $1554 for the Lenovo, and $1699 for the Mac. That's only about $150 more.
2.53 Ghz P series
4 GB RAM
Camera
LED backlit screen
250 GB 5400 RPM drive
Vista Ultimate.
The only feature the MBP doesn't have is the 7 in one reader slot, but the Lenovo doesn't have FW 800 (AFAIK) so I consider this a wash.
The Apple Tax is mostly mythical. Yes, Apples cost more, but it's not the twice as much or "thousands more" that people always spout from their pie holes, and frankly, the aluminum unibody case cost a lot more to produce than an injection molded plastic body.
I like both designs. I've had Think Pads and MBPs. In my personal experience both brands outlast Dells and HPs (Compaqs) by a 2 or 3 to 1margin. My MBPs and TPs have average life spans of 4 years. Dells I'm lucky if I can get 2, and I've had a LOT of Dells. the 5150 was the worst of the lot, I think...
@craigj
The tax is a bit less than that. There's really no comparing Intel integrated graphics to NVIDIA.
@CraigJ What about the eSATA port? Mackbook have that too? No? How about the express card slot? No? Removable battery? Laptop docking connectors? Keyboard trackpoint? VGA out? They are completely different.
@CraigJ:
Come back when you know alittle about Lenovo. P8700? P8600 does the same job and cheaper, Vista Ultimate? R u jokes? I will take Vista business thanks. Lenovo also have coupons all the time (15% off right now). Also, the T500 has magnesium roll cage/chassis, carbon fiber reinforced shell.
You talking about Dell/HP's business line + consumer line in the same breath is just dumb.
Yep, I missed eSata. The 17" MBP (still) has an express card slot but the 15 has an SD slot. VGA out? the MacBooks have mini-display port, which is, IMO, better. I can get an adapter and use any VGA/DVI or Display port Monitor. I know that is horrible, but really, when's the last time you bought a monitor and hooked it up with VGA? I haven't used VGA in over 2 years. I love the pointer on the Lenovo, but the Mac has the multi-touch click pad which the Lenovo doesn't have. The point was, that both Apple and Lenovo have great industrial design. Very different from each other, but pretty much the best out there. Further the point was to refute the whole "Apple Tax" myth. The 2 systems are very comparable. Really, the differences as you point out are the lack of express card and lack of a docking station on the Mac. People like to go on and on about how much more expensive Macs are, yet when I build a Dell or a Lenovo with the SAME SPECS generally I find the prices to be similar. A making that is $100 or $200 more when we're talking about something that is over $1500 isn't that big of a deal. Hell, I know a lot of people that blow $100 a month on shitty Starbucks coffee. And YES, Vista Ultimate - that is the only comparable OS that Microsoft has to OS X.
Regarding cheaper, this article was about the T-Series and I was comparing the same spec machines. Same processor, same memory, same back light, same HD size and speed, etc. That is the only true way to compare anything. Also that Lenovo price includes their current discount...
Lastly regarding consumer / Dell, I'm not sure what the hell your talking about, but the 5150 was the top of the line at t he time sold to my (huge) company by Dell. I've also had the Lattitudes, XPS, and the professional Compaqs (before HP bought Compaq, Compaq made the professional lap tops) I think you are the one that needs to figure out the difference between business and consumer.
I know that a lot of you have hard-ons for Windows, and that's cool, but you seem to lose all rational thought then someone compares a Mac to your precious windows laptop.
@CraigJ
Last time I used a VGA port on my laptop? 2 hours ago. Our conference rooms are equipped with overhead projectors, and they use a VGA port embedded in the table.
Apple is ok and all, but it's more style and attitude than substance. For style, I want the 17" Lenovo with integrated Wacom table and pull out second screen (the W700 DS). That machine is what gives me hardware envy
Digital out is *definitely* better- the reason is because if you have digital out and want to use an analog display, you can do it with a relatively small adapter (and come on, it's not THAT hard to stick an adapter in a bag), but if you have analog out and want to put a big LCD screen on your desk, you're stuck with a crappy VGA signal which isn't going to be much use above 1680x1050. Having digital video out gives you a lot more options