Next-gen iPod touch photos supposedly leak out; Cocktail part of Apple announcement? (Updated)
No surprise that the Zune HD announcement has resulted in a flurry of iPod rumors, and there's a couple good ones going around today. Obviously the big news is a set of photos purporting to show a next-gen touch with a camera -- the sourcing and the backdrop in some of the pics make it feel like it's a publicity stunt, but the shots of the motherboard next to a current-gen touch's board seem convincing -- especially because of Apple's recent propensity to leak this sort of thing. The other piece of news? CNET says that whatever Apple does next month, the new Cocktail "next-generation album cover" will be a part of it, at least according to "multiple music industry sources." That might link into the major labels' CMX initiative, it might have something to do with iTunes 9, it might be a fun little Tom Cruise movie, or it might be nothing at all -- but it sure seems like we're in for a hell of a September.
Update:As commenter Joseph pointed out, these look pretty fake when you zoom in Photoshop -- there's a distinct square of pixels around the lens. Nice publicity stunt, guys -- we'll totally start listening to your show now.
Update 2: After seeing some high res versions of these pics, we think we can safely rule out the JPG artifacting as the tell-tale sign that these are fake. You know what we can't rule out? The really bad looking Photoshop work around the lens. Much clearer pic after the break. [Thanks for the pic, Manny]
Read - The Covino and Rich Show blog post with iPod touch photos
Read - iPod touch photos on Flickr in higher-res
Read - CNET on Cocktail
Update:
Update 2: After seeing some high res versions of these pics, we think we can safely rule out the JPG artifacting as the tell-tale sign that these are fake. You know what we can't rule out? The really bad looking Photoshop work around the lens. Much clearer pic after the break. [Thanks for the pic, Manny]
Read - The Covino and Rich Show blog post with iPod touch photos
Read - iPod touch photos on Flickr in higher-res
Read - CNET on Cocktail























I hope we get more than cameras on the new touch's.
Agreed.
I'm holding off until September when I'll either pick up a Touch or a Zune HD. I really hope the Touch brings something special, otherwise I won't hesitate to grab a Zune HD instead.
@Andrew: You and me both, brother. I REALLY want that green Zune HD but if the iPod touch manages to wow me enough, I might just make the change over. Not saying it's likely, since it'd take a hell of a lot to outdo the Zune HD(camera won't do it), but if it happens Apple will get my money.
Keep hoping guys. I'm not saying that the next iPod Touch won't have a camera, but this isn't the next iPod Touch.
Notice the fuzzy ring around the camera. I mean, come on. It's very obvious. Look at the texture of the rest of the photo, notice how the lines slope together. Suddenly, it's like someone touched the pixels with a sponge, or rubbed the grain of the carpet the wrong way.
It's really obvious.
i would suggest those of you who buy iPods and iPhones to seek better alternatives. Stop feeding the pig that is Apple.
fake or not ... who the hell is going to replace their REAL digital camera with a god damn cell phone camera?
@darkmax: And I would suggest that YOU buy whatever the better product for you is, rather than buying based on what company it comes from. Just about anyone here will tell you that I'm much more a fan of the Zune than the iPod but let's try to keep open-minded k?
@redcard: I have no idea what that meant but it's awesome.
if the touch does get a camera, for whatever reason, its gotta be higher than 5 megapixels people.
I have something to say about that Ethan Chapel. Half the stuff on your "lacking" list for the Zune is simply your speculation. Then you have some stuff that is just wrong. No Peer to Peer games? Well we don't know just what sort of games the Zune HD will have, though they have said there will be. But the CURRENT ZUNES already do peer to peer gaming.
@ Ethan Chapel
Why in God's name would you want that crap in a PMP. It's not a phone. That's what phones are for. Copy/Paste? Really? And console quality games? What are you smoking? I have an iPhone and the games are garbage. They aren't even worth pirating. I can't wait to get rid of my iPhone for a real phone and a real PMP (sadly no money..).
Hey! Look at that everyone! Paul Chapelle finally got banned and suddenly Ethan Chapelle joins today and repeatedly posts this annoying rant on every Zune article he can find! Cool!
Please ban him. Do an IP ban. This lying idiot needs to be punished. Because the internet doesn't have a "punch in the face" button yet.
Jesus, does Chapel ever stop?! I'll bet he keeps a notepad open and spends the entire day making these little comparison bs lists up and then copies and pastes the same crap over and over.Ethan, Paul, Elmo, whatever....
I think it's real. Most jpegs will look like that zoomed in inside photoshop.
@iJameswhite
Actually, you little Apple fanboy fcuk, Sony was one of the first to put a high-quality camera into their Hi-MD player. That thing was the shit. Apple is never innovative. The just package things up nicely.
@ijames white
just know that both of those 'cameras' dont even equal my 5 year old 3MP sony digital camera....
when will people realize that these are still cell phone cameras afterall? megapixels are useless when the diameter of the lens isnt even bigger than a cigarette.
there is no innovation here, just a simple addition of a $3 image sensor.... what a joke.
apple finally put a camera,
but they need to become more innovative.
even though they are the best of the best.
Ramble much?
it's easy to ramble
all you have to do is use no punctuation
except periods or capitalization and press the enter key
after every 4-8 words. it is quite easy really.
count the syllables
is it ramble or haiku?
oh wait never mind
@rTwelve: Well done sir, well done.
Too bad they have not found a way to keep the back from smudging and scratching like heck. :\
So Fake, Apple would probably change the design and not keep it the same as the 2nd Gen.
Look at the 3Gs.
See how scratched it is? If this is a leak, the 'new' device wouldn't be that scratched already. Way to "Enhance the image with Adobe Photoshop Software" XD
Also, notice the fuzzyness around the lens.
@Chase
I agree. They could have at least gotten someone good at Photoshop to do it.
I could see the terrible pixelation around the 'shop even from the low quality, non-zoomed pic. They should have blurred the entire picture a little more and submitted it as a Mr. Blurrycam pic, they will take anything if it is blurry enough here at engadget :P (I jest...)
u really think so?
apple's designs are getting stale. look at their laptops, same old boring design year after year after year......
i dont think ipods and iphones are gonna change any time soon! boring. pray to god the features are added instead
the original story on MacRumors (i think... sorry if it's a bad referral!) said it was a durability test unit, so that would explain the scratches. The placement matches the leaked case shots from last month, and I hope they do not change the shape. There are a lot of people with these things, and changing the shape means all new cases and dock adapters. They did the right thing the the 3GS and avoided a small change that would require consumers to buy new cases. Hopefully they do the same with this one (of course, you'd have to pop it out of the case to use the camera!)
The square around the lens is still there, its just harder to see due to the higher quality, It still might be a .jpg problem though.
If the .jpeg quality was the problem with the first one,why did this guy upload another .jpeg? I demand a .bmp or .png of this picture
Looks like it still scratches easily.
I find it interesting that both the Zune HD and the iPhone/iPod touch are getting artist info/bios/etc on the device next month. Cocktail really seems to be almost exactly the same as what the Zune HD offers... though I prefer the Zune HD's implementation since it will also add the info to songs you already have and didn't purchase through the Zune marketplace. I agree though, crazy, insane, freaking amazing September coming.
Looks fake to me. Apples not that stupid.
or maybe they are that stupid. If the only update is a camera/mic and a price cut to match prices to Zune HD then I don't plan on upgrading to a new ipod. Maybe that Zune would be a better issue. I wonder what the battery life is like on the Zune HD.
sweet!
Seriously? The Zune HD looks amazing but insulting a device you haven't seen and know nothing about is just stupid.
And Here We GO.....
Limit as ipod touch tends to iphone is almost derived.
Soon they shall be the same
Looks like someone modded their iPod Touch to me.
its obv fake. leaked photos wouldnt have really scratched backs would they? wow.
What if it is a ipod touch developer's test model? By now they would have been carrying it around for a while and it would be scratched up a bit. It could be very real, unless you are a developer and have a new one in your pocket :P.
Do people ever bother to read the original article?
It's a fragging durability test model you dunce. As stated by multiple commenters and multiple stories.
Why is there a black rubber thing cover the spot where the camera is on the iPhone? Is it because someone is bad at photoshop?
wow, that thing is scratched all to hell... if that's the backside of the device then iPod owners better buy a protective cover for sure
Definitely fake.
Good thing we have you here to confirm this with so much certainty.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/covinoandrich/3821820098/?processed=1&cb=1250288168811
lol
Rest in peace, Foxconn employee.
You know these multi purpose devices are slowly emptying our pockets of other things. eventually we will not even carry cash or credit cards. everything we need will come with the device. One device to rule them all.
Read CNN much?
Why whatever do you mean good sir?