Nokia's Booklet 3G detailed further at Nokia World, priced at €570
By Darren Murph 
posted Sep 2nd 2009 4:23AM
posted Sep 2nd 2009 4:23AM
The whole thing will measure just 0.78-inches thick and will ship in black, ice (white) and azure (blue) motifs, though we're most interested to see just how toasty this thing will get given its "fanless design." Other specs include 1GB of DDR2 RAM, a 120GB hard drive (1.8-inch, 4200RPM), integrated Ovi Suite, a 10.1-inch LCD (1,280 x 720 resolution) and an almost unheard of 16-cell Li-ion battery that's user-removable. Bluetooth 2.1+EDR, Assisted-GPS, HDMI, USB 2.0 (x3), an SD card reader and a 1.3 megapixel camera will also be present, and the inbuilt accelerometer should make for some unique add-ons. We're still searching for an exact release date, but Anssi Vanjok made clear that the €570 ($810) asking price is apt to be heavily subsidized by carriers across the globe. Still, $810 for a netbook? Ouch.
who the hell is going to buy this? Even subsidized, you could get a nebook contract-free for how much they will charge
Just wait and watch buddy!! don't jump to conclusions too often! World is too big and too small too;)
Carriers in the UK already offer free netbooks on mobile 3G. Do you seriously think they're not going to tie this into the contract and that they're going to be paying anythign like €570 if they buy them in bulk?
How long before we see 24 month contracts at, say, £40-50 a month offering you a N97 Mini and a Netbook? Not long I would think.
Why windows 7 and not maemo? Nokia is ' betting' on a lot of horses...
Well, U miss the actual plot. Different horses for different tracks.
Because an average joe doesnt know what "maemo" yet*
@ Satz
What's a Maemo?
amidoinitrite?
"Maemo is a software platform that is mostly based on open source code and powers mobile devices such as the Nokia N810 Internet Tablet. Maemo platform has been developed by Nokia in collaboration with many open source projects such as the Linux kernel , Debian , GNOME , and many more."
I figured I couldn't say it any better than maemo, itself, could.
[www.maemo.org]
Also, Windows 7 was likely chosen because of co-branding, and the new deal the two companies have made recently. Nokia's first actual 'netbook' release has to be big to secure the growth of their sought-after computer manufacture title. With the mass market that netbooks already have -- and will gain when Windows 7(it being 'the best netbook OS')releases in October -- along with Windows 7, will make the consumer's transition from a(n) (insert choice manufacture here)netbook, which will run Microsoft's new OS, to a Nokia netbook, which will also preform the latter task.
Well, just return Windows7 and you'll save a few euros.
Simple, this is aimed at corporate types who get a 3G plan and netbook bundled together and paid for by their company, so they want/need MS Office, Outlook, and IE for their corporate apps. Maemo just doesn't do that.
Nokia wants to Mac, atleast on pricing
16 Cell BATTERY???????????
That is like 24+ hours of usage
Good lord people. Stop looking at the "scientific" spec of "cells" and look at the real stuff. The specs quote 56.8 Wh battery.
By comparison, the "6 cell" battery in an Eee 1000HA is 48.84 Wh.
Thank you so much. This makes things a lot clearer. Also seems like the 12 hours life is unlikely. But hey, 9 hours?
Well, Nokia surely knows how to make slim long lasting batteries from its phone experience i'm sure.
The fan itself can use up to around 2W (depending on the size\power and spinning velocity) so that alone helps extending the battery by a lot.
The fact that it doesn't have a lot of useless ports also helps extending it 'cause the device doesn't have to feed them in case the user forgets to turn them off, but i guess not many people know that turning off their camera, ethernet and speakers in the BIOS helps extending the battery a few extra minutes.
If they included a smart control for the CPU like ASUS does on their EEE PC line, allowing it to run under-clocked when on battery mode in a transparent and user-controlled way will help extend the battery too.
Now the only disturbing thing I find about this laptop is the lack of a microphone jack. Guess everyone is supposed to use bluetooth and USB headsets nowadays even tho they are so expensive.
The RAM should be enough for XP considering we're not gonna play games on that, but its true they could have just added another GB without making the price go up much more, especially since they're planing to sell it with Windows 7.
Nokia SUX
Nokia has been producing rubbish and selling at the extremely overed price!
Quality sUx like hell!
"16-cell Li-ion battery that's user-removable"
Do want.
Also, WTF HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE
Hear hear!
And fanless, and very thin!
Awesome!
@ed.
Me thinks they are watch batteries.
My dell mini has a 4 cell. If they kept the same size cells and made a 16 cell version, it would cover the bottom of the entire netbook.
Bear in mind that €500 is a pretty normal price for a netbook in Europe (e.g. here in Sweden). So the asking price of €570 is nothing to be surprised about. When comparing prices between Europe and the US, the usual translation is €1 = $1. This applies to all gadgetry and is due to higher VAT and other complicated stuff no-one bothers to understand.
Never, never compare Scandinavia to the other European countries - just don't ;)
Yeah. Engadget, please, stop bitching about the price. Don't worry, you americans will get the usual €1 = $1. And we europeans will pay €570 for this netbook (which is normal for netbooks around here (Croatia))
It’s 570 € plus VAT – and that’s a bit ouch.
For example, the HP Mini goes for 499€ around here...
1GB of soldiered RAM and a 4200 RPM hard drive
This Nokia fanboy says that's a massive fail
I concur.
Will 1GB even run Aero on Windows 7?
With no aero graphics, it might as well be Vista Home Basic...
...Ew.
The intel Atom Poulsbo chipset doesn't support more than 1GB of memory, so memory expansion slot would be totally useless. Soldering is just for saving space.
4200RPM hard drive is a fail, but 1GB of RAM is perfectly fine for Windows 7 + aero. Vista would collapse with those specs, but 7 is a different beast.
Win7 RC with AERO ran on my old ACER with 512MB just fine... I was really surprised, but it ran fine. The only program which did not like it with iTunes.
The specs are something we've never seen yet on a netbook. And so is the price.
1GB ram??.... oh sorry i get what you mean. 4200RPM HD, ye never seen that in a netbook.
Anyone would think you get what you pay for...
Finnish computer magazine Tietokone (quite credible with news) knew enough to say that this would be available about the same time Windows 7 comes out. Source: http://74.125.79.132/translate_c?hl=en&sl=fi&tl=en&u=http://www.tietokone.fi/uutta/uutinen.asp%3Fnews_id%3D38708%26tyyppi%3D1&prev=hp&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhi2sA2YOmq5tbqy6xUSMftU6QXYQQ
Wrong link, I think. This is regarding the Nokia N97 and the new mini-X music phones.
Scroll down and read...
It read there alright but here's a more specific article - just released: http://74.125.79.132/translate_c?hl=en&sl=fi&tl=en&u=http://www.tietokone.fi/uutta/uutinen.asp%3Fnews_id%3D38709%26tyyppi%3D1&prev=hp&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhg_sTkBTuY-6FImoyTeLTnXwGfwyg
It bothers me how Engadget still sucks at converting euro prices to $, then say hey its $810! It's like they have not dealt with Euro prices before.
Presumably the Nokia quoted price includes sales tax which will skew things quite a lot (10-20%)
Usually 570EUR means it'll be $570 sate side.
Almost all gadgets are cheaper in the US on a dollar for dollar comparison.
no RAM expension??? what a failure...
If the price don't kill this thing then the slow HDD would certainly do.
It would be hard to keep a fanless and slim design with a 2.5' 5400 RPM hard drive, those things heat up more than the Atom CPUs sometimes.
1. Extra Ram Slots will be useless, the chipset doesn't support more than 1GB memory, so soldered ram is a space saver.
2. If you are really really bothered by a 4200RPM hard drive, change it out? I doubt an average person would care about this.
Other than that, it is the best spec netbook in my opinion so far - 16 cell battery, 1280x720 res 10" screen, windows 7, hdmi out, and a nice looking aluminium design.
If the keyboard, trackpad and build quality are up to scratch, then this will be a very very nice netbook.
The chipset supports 2gb. http://ark.intel.com/chipset.aspx?familyID=35443
I understand Windows 7 is light and fast and all, but it's still noticeably sluggish with even 2gb.
vel, did you try? I ran Win7 RC on old ACER with 512MB Ram with no issues
hold up..i thought it was still up in the air as to whether or not windows 7 would be licensed to use with atom procs from oems? did i miss a bit of news?
Yes, you missed something, or at least saw something that wasn't true. Windows 7 is OF COURSE being licensed to OEMs for use on machines with Atom processors. The only issue was whether Windows 7 STARTER would be available (i.e. a cheap price for Windows 7) on machines with > 10" displays. And the answer is NO it won't. But then this thing has a 10" display so that isn't really relevant so I'm not sure why you brought it up.
Clicking through the link -- it says its has "A stylish, premium design with a chassis made from a single piece of machined aluminum" -- g apple's legal time is going to have a patent busting field day with this
Here's a couple of live pictures:
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/2009/09/02/nokia-booklet-3g-live-pics.html
http://thenokiablog.com/2009/09/02/nokia-booklet-3g-hands-on-first-impressions/
It looks very solid. Especially the hinge. Surely high quality stuff. And, as other people have stated, the price isn't all that absurd in Europe, considering that most basic netbooks cost around 400 Euro. 3G, GPS, HDMI-out and the 16 cell battery surely are worth the added cost.
16 cell, thas why its so expensive. !! that might be a selling point for sure
Yeah, that thing is half battery half computer. Looks good nevertheless. I hope the performance with the pre-installed Win7 is reasonable.
Here's a hands-on video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-uyWbDesbQ
Wait a minute... He said it's up to 12hrs battery life in that video. Maybe rock99rock was right before and they are watch batteries?!
am i missing something? what's this thing gonna do with an HDMI out and an atom processor?
I am questioning this as well,
because normally the netbooks that was able to output HD through the HDMI were the new ones coming out on the Nvidia ION platform...
because i don't think that atom alone can push HD resolutions, even outputting it.
A comment from me though,
this netbook would be pretty neat with a touchscreen, maybe a wacom digitizer, possibly a tablet hinge to it as well... its the perfect size for a small tablet.
i mean or even the n-trig multi-touch capacitive display would be nice, or just wait for wacoms, cause it would probably turn out better...
but only one can dream, and or mod!
I would like to see what this thing looks like disassembled, and see if it shows any capabilities of being modded.
Looks very high quality. Nice and thin. Good looking keyboard. Very nice looking trackpad. Lots of battery (clearly they fit the non-battery netbook parts in much less space than most).
No Ethernet that I can see. Maybe not a big issue.
You probably won't be able to get one without a cellular contract, so the price "unlocked" probably doesn't really matter.
That 4200 rpm 1.8" drive sucks. Okay, so they can't fit a 2.5" drive in there. They could at least have put in a small SSD. You remember the benchmarks on the Dell Mini 12? The HP Mini 1000? This'll be similar. Also that 1.8" drive just might have a PATA interface and limit your ability to swap it out.
That tighly packed chassis just might be a mother to upgrade. Let's see how much of the system you have to disassemble just to replace the hard drive. If the 1008HA is any indication...
Pros: fanless, long battery life, 720 display, 3G, GPS, good looks.
Cons: with a 4200rpm drive and only a paltry 1GB of RAM this device will suck ass at running any kind of Windows.
I'll wait for the next generation thanks.
I must agree that 1GB is really one of the weak points, but regarding the HDD i believe that they chose to use the 1.8' @ 4200rpm so they can keep the temperature generated down and make the fanless design possible.
When (if) a new generation comes with the new Atom with integrated graphics, it's probably gonna use a 64~128GB SSD instead of a normal hard disc drive making the machine run even cooler.
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