HP ENVY 13 and 15 bring luxury to the everyman, look like MacBooks
There's no getting around it, so we'll just say right at the outset: HP's new ENVY 13 and 15 laptops might've been built on the "Voodoo ENVY legacy," but they sure look a lot like Apple's unibody MacBook Pros. Of course, there's much more than meets the eye. The ENVY 13 is a bit of a mix between a traditional 13-incher and a real thin and light, weighing in at 3.74 pounds and packing in Radeon HD 4330 discrete graphics, but still forgoing an internal disc drive. The 13.1-inch WXGA display is the real draw, offering impressive colors (82% color gamut) and brightness (410 nit). The other big winner is the optional Slim Fit extended life battery, a slice which snaps onto the bottom of the laptop, hardly protrudes, and more than doubles the standard 7 hour quoted battery life. The laptop body is magnesium coated with aluminum -- which gives it the texture of a MacBook Pro, but a bit less of the weight. In our non-scientific tests the build wasn't exactly as rigid as a MBP, but still quite a bit stronger than the average laptop -- and quite nice to the touch. The MacBook-style glass clickpad, however, is not an exciting addition in our book, since the software to support the automagical detection of left and right click -- not to mention zoom, rotate and scroll gestures -- just wasn't very tight. Please, give us back our buttons.
HP's ENVY 15 isn't much of a "thin and light," really, more of a straight up premium 15-incher crammed into a 1-inch thick 5.18 pound form factor. It keeps the ENVY 13's unibody-style construction, and, sadly, the single button glass trackpad, but also works in a new Core i7 processor, makes room for dual SSD drives and adds high-end Radeon HD 4830 graphics with 1GB of VRAM. The 15.6-inch LCD isn't quite as stellar as the 13, at 300 nits, but HP did manage to include support for a Slim Fit battery for the ENVY 15 -- though with non-switchable discreet graphics, you're not going to get much longevity out of this laptop either way. The two laptops start at $1,699 and $1,799, respectively (a far cry from the original ENVY 133's $2,100 starting price), and will be available on October 18th with Windows 7 pre-loaded. Check out video of the ENVY 13 after the break.
HP Redefines the Premium Notebook PC with ENVY
Precision-crafted, high-performance notebooks are bright, thin, deliver superb experience
PALO ALTO, Calif., Sept. 15, 2009 – HP today redefines the premium notebook PC experience with the introduction of the HP ENVY sub-brand, which offers customers precision-crafted, high-performance models featuring HP Metal Etching and concierge service and support.
The new HP ENVY 13 boasts the brightest display in its class, and the HP ENVY 15 is the company's fastest consumer notebook PC ever.
"HP ENVY includes the latest in materials and technology inside and out and pushes the technological and performance boundaries of what can be done in sleek, powerful and lightweight notebook PCs," said Ted Clark, senior vice president and general manager, Notebook Global Business Unit, Personal Systems Group, HP. "Discerning consumers will get a premium experience and performance."
With HP ENVY, the focus is on designing an entire premium experience to satisfy the most demanding customers – from the products to the packaging to the service and support.
Breakthrough HP Metal Etching on the lid and palmrest of the ENVY 15, and on the palmrest of the ENVY 13, subtly signals luxury. The combination of materials provides exceptional mobility and a compelling metal look and feel, while using energy-responsible manufacturing methods.
The HP ENVY line – building upon the Voodoo ENVY legacy – includes leading- edge components optimized to yield power and performance. HP partnered with Beats by Dr. Dre to develop a unique, high-performance subsystem tuned for today's music and available exclusively on the HP Envy: Beats Audio. Envy users will feel the music – not just listen – and enjoy music the way the artist intended.
The lightweight heavyweight: ENVY 13 The ENVY 13 balances style and substance. Carefully crafted details inside and out will satisfy the cravings of demanding mobile customers.
The HP Radiance display is twice as bright as other notebook displays in its class – 410 nit (a measurement of display brightness) – and provides an exceptional movie and photo experience, even in high ambient light conditions. With 82 percent color gamut (versus standard 45-60 percent), photos appear richer with amazing color depth. Additionally, with fast 8-millisecond response time, customers can view movies with TV-like performance.
The ENVY 13's strong performance is delivered in a small frame – less than an inch thin and weighing 3.74 pounds.(1) The exterior's aluminum and magnesium construction provides durability in a sleek design. An etched-metal palmrest further sets the PC apart from others, and a VGA webcam(3) optimized for low light also is included.
HP placed the same focus on design into its optional Slim Fit Extended-Life Notebook Battery. Taking the form of a "slice," it preserves the sleek look of the ENVY 13 while giving users up to 18 hours of battery life with the extended-life battery.(2) The standard battery is user-replaceable.
ATI Switchable Graphics technology dynamically switches between ATI Mobility RadeonTM HD 4330 discrete graphics and the Intel® integrated graphics processor for either high-powered graphics processing or low power consumption for long battery life without booting the notebook. The Intel CoreTM 2 Duo processor provides the power of dual processor cores while delivering extended battery life when the notebook is unplugged.
Designed with the most demanding mobile user in mind, the ENVY 13 notebook's premium AC adapter is small and light. It draws minimal power, has built-in surge protection and includes a rubberized strap that keeps the cables organized and the adapter from slipping off a slick surface. An optional HP USB Ethernet Adapter also is available.
The performance powerhouse: ENVY 15 This lean, mean, dream machine is HP's fastest consumer notebook. The full metal case features a sleek, subtly crafted, laser-etched metal design on the lid that is repeated on the palmrest. The magnesium alloy casing provides lightweight durability in a 1-inch thin, 5.18-pound package.(1)
Customers have maximum speed and mobility with the future Intel Core i7 processor(4) and up to 16 gigabytes (GB) of DDR3 1,066-MHz system memory in four SODIMM memory slots. Versatile storage options include the ability to add two solid-state drives in a RAID-0 configuration to improve the overall speed of the ENVY 15 while providing excellent disk performance. Creative users will appreciate the ENVY 15 notebook's performance and full versions of Corel® Paint Shop Pro® Photo X2 and Corel VideoStudio® Pro X2 for creating photo and video content.
Power users and gamers can take advantage of premium graphics performance via ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4830 graphics with 1 GB of dedicated video memory for visually intense applications, DirectX® 10.1 games and high- definition video playback.
A choice of two 15.6-inch HP Brightview high-resolution LED backlit displays, including the Full High Definition LED HP Ultra BrightView Widescreen Display with up to 300-nits brightness, provides a superb display experience for a notebook in this class. A Nightvision VGA webcam that is optimized for low-light or zero-light conditions is standard on the HP ENVY 15, incorporating an infrared LED that assists the webcam(3) by providing the necessary illumination in dark environments.
The ENVY 15 has an optional Slim Fit Extended-Life Notebook Battery, giving users up to seven hours of battery life.(2)
Designing the ENVY experience The HP ENVY line includes a 360-degree approach to product design – from the products to the packaging:
• Building upon HP's success with instant-on technology, HP QuickWeb allows customers to access key applications without booting the PC. In less than 30 seconds, users can access the Internet, music, videos and photos, and email.(3)
• HP Clickpad integrates the buttons into the touchpad and allows for fluid movements, while also allowing users to disable the clickpad if desired.
• The keyboard's direct-action keys (versus typical function keys) allow users to quickly access often-used commands such as print and volume adjustment.
• Minimal desktop clutter and trial software adds to notebooks' simplicity.
• An optional external optical drive complements the ENVY design and gives users the flexibility to carry the extra weight only when necessary. Two USB ports also transform the drive into a dock for additional capability.
• The ENVY 13 and 15 are presented in streamlined paper carton boxes using minimal ink. Included in the packaging is a simplified setup poster and documentation contained within an SD card.
Concierge service and support The ENVY experience extends to premium service and support via the award- winning HP Total Care program. This includes expert agents dedicated to addressing ENVY customers' questions via phone, online chat and email as well as next-day shipping for hardware customer service.
Pricing and availability The HP ENVY 13 and ENVY 15 are expected to be available in the United States on Oct. 18 with a starting price of $1,699 and $1,799, respectively.(5) Register for availability notification at www.hpdirect.com/go/newfromhp.
Additional information about HP ENVY is available at www.hp.com/go/ENVY.
About HP HP, the world's largest technology company, simplifies the technology experience for consumers and businesses with a portfolio that spans printing, personal computing, software, services and IT infrastructure. More information about HP (NYSE: HPQ) is available at http://www.hp.com/.
Note to editors: More news from HP, including links to RSS feeds, is available at http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/.
(1) Weight will vary by configuration. (2) Battery life will vary depending on the product's model, configuration, loaded applications, features and power management settings. The maximum capacity of the battery will decrease with time and usage. (3) Internet is required and sold separately.
(4) Dual/Quad/Triple Core is designed to improve performance of certain software products. Not all customers or software applications will necessarily benefit from use of this technology. 64-bit computing on Intel architecture requires a computer system with a processor, chipset, BIOS, operating system, device drivers and applications enabled for Intel 64 architecture. Processors will not operate (including 32-bit operation) without an Intel 64 architecture-enabled BIOS. Performance will vary depending on hardware and software configurations. See www.intel.com/info/em64t for more information.
(5) Estimated U.S. street prices. Actual prices may vary.
ATI Mobility Radeon is a trademark of Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Intel is a registered trademark of Intel Corp. or its subsidiaries in the United States and other countries. Corel is a registered trademark of Corel Corporation or Corel Corporation Limited.
This news release contains forward-looking statements that involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions. If such risks or uncertainties materialize or such assumptions prove incorrect, the results of HP and its consolidated subsidiaries could differ materially from those expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements and assumptions. All statements other than statements of historical fact are statements that could be deemed forward-looking statements, including but not limited to statements of the plans, strategies and objectives of management for future operations; any statements concerning expected development, performance or market share relating to products and services; any statements regarding anticipated operational and financial results; any statements of expectation or belief; and any statements of assumptions underlying any of the foregoing. Risks, uncertainties and assumptions include macroeconomic and geopolitical trends and events; the execution and performance of contracts by HP and its customers, suppliers and partners; the achievement of expected operational and financial results; and other risks that are described in HP's Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q for the fiscal quarter ended July 31, 2009 and HP's other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including but not limited to HP's Annual Report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended October 31, 2008. HP assumes no obligation and does not intend to update these forward-looking statements.
© 2009 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P. The information contained herein is subject to change without notice. The only warranties for HP products and services are set forth in the express warranty statements accompanying such products and services. Nothing herein should be construed as constituting an additional warranty. HP shall not be liable for technical or editorial errors or omissions contained herein.

HP Redefines the Premium Notebook PC with ENVY
Precision-crafted, high-performance notebooks are bright, thin, deliver superb experience
PALO ALTO, Calif., Sept. 15, 2009 – HP today redefines the premium notebook PC experience with the introduction of the HP ENVY sub-brand, which offers customers precision-crafted, high-performance models featuring HP Metal Etching and concierge service and support.
The new HP ENVY 13 boasts the brightest display in its class, and the HP ENVY 15 is the company's fastest consumer notebook PC ever.
"HP ENVY includes the latest in materials and technology inside and out and pushes the technological and performance boundaries of what can be done in sleek, powerful and lightweight notebook PCs," said Ted Clark, senior vice president and general manager, Notebook Global Business Unit, Personal Systems Group, HP. "Discerning consumers will get a premium experience and performance."
With HP ENVY, the focus is on designing an entire premium experience to satisfy the most demanding customers – from the products to the packaging to the service and support.
Breakthrough HP Metal Etching on the lid and palmrest of the ENVY 15, and on the palmrest of the ENVY 13, subtly signals luxury. The combination of materials provides exceptional mobility and a compelling metal look and feel, while using energy-responsible manufacturing methods.
The HP ENVY line – building upon the Voodoo ENVY legacy – includes leading- edge components optimized to yield power and performance. HP partnered with Beats by Dr. Dre to develop a unique, high-performance subsystem tuned for today's music and available exclusively on the HP Envy: Beats Audio. Envy users will feel the music – not just listen – and enjoy music the way the artist intended.
The lightweight heavyweight: ENVY 13 The ENVY 13 balances style and substance. Carefully crafted details inside and out will satisfy the cravings of demanding mobile customers.
The HP Radiance display is twice as bright as other notebook displays in its class – 410 nit (a measurement of display brightness) – and provides an exceptional movie and photo experience, even in high ambient light conditions. With 82 percent color gamut (versus standard 45-60 percent), photos appear richer with amazing color depth. Additionally, with fast 8-millisecond response time, customers can view movies with TV-like performance.
The ENVY 13's strong performance is delivered in a small frame – less than an inch thin and weighing 3.74 pounds.(1) The exterior's aluminum and magnesium construction provides durability in a sleek design. An etched-metal palmrest further sets the PC apart from others, and a VGA webcam(3) optimized for low light also is included.
HP placed the same focus on design into its optional Slim Fit Extended-Life Notebook Battery. Taking the form of a "slice," it preserves the sleek look of the ENVY 13 while giving users up to 18 hours of battery life with the extended-life battery.(2) The standard battery is user-replaceable.
ATI Switchable Graphics technology dynamically switches between ATI Mobility RadeonTM HD 4330 discrete graphics and the Intel® integrated graphics processor for either high-powered graphics processing or low power consumption for long battery life without booting the notebook. The Intel CoreTM 2 Duo processor provides the power of dual processor cores while delivering extended battery life when the notebook is unplugged.
Designed with the most demanding mobile user in mind, the ENVY 13 notebook's premium AC adapter is small and light. It draws minimal power, has built-in surge protection and includes a rubberized strap that keeps the cables organized and the adapter from slipping off a slick surface. An optional HP USB Ethernet Adapter also is available.
The performance powerhouse: ENVY 15 This lean, mean, dream machine is HP's fastest consumer notebook. The full metal case features a sleek, subtly crafted, laser-etched metal design on the lid that is repeated on the palmrest. The magnesium alloy casing provides lightweight durability in a 1-inch thin, 5.18-pound package.(1)
Customers have maximum speed and mobility with the future Intel Core i7 processor(4) and up to 16 gigabytes (GB) of DDR3 1,066-MHz system memory in four SODIMM memory slots. Versatile storage options include the ability to add two solid-state drives in a RAID-0 configuration to improve the overall speed of the ENVY 15 while providing excellent disk performance. Creative users will appreciate the ENVY 15 notebook's performance and full versions of Corel® Paint Shop Pro® Photo X2 and Corel VideoStudio® Pro X2 for creating photo and video content.
Power users and gamers can take advantage of premium graphics performance via ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4830 graphics with 1 GB of dedicated video memory for visually intense applications, DirectX® 10.1 games and high- definition video playback.
A choice of two 15.6-inch HP Brightview high-resolution LED backlit displays, including the Full High Definition LED HP Ultra BrightView Widescreen Display with up to 300-nits brightness, provides a superb display experience for a notebook in this class. A Nightvision VGA webcam that is optimized for low-light or zero-light conditions is standard on the HP ENVY 15, incorporating an infrared LED that assists the webcam(3) by providing the necessary illumination in dark environments.
The ENVY 15 has an optional Slim Fit Extended-Life Notebook Battery, giving users up to seven hours of battery life.(2)
Designing the ENVY experience The HP ENVY line includes a 360-degree approach to product design – from the products to the packaging:
• Building upon HP's success with instant-on technology, HP QuickWeb allows customers to access key applications without booting the PC. In less than 30 seconds, users can access the Internet, music, videos and photos, and email.(3)
• HP Clickpad integrates the buttons into the touchpad and allows for fluid movements, while also allowing users to disable the clickpad if desired.
• The keyboard's direct-action keys (versus typical function keys) allow users to quickly access often-used commands such as print and volume adjustment.
• Minimal desktop clutter and trial software adds to notebooks' simplicity.
• An optional external optical drive complements the ENVY design and gives users the flexibility to carry the extra weight only when necessary. Two USB ports also transform the drive into a dock for additional capability.
• The ENVY 13 and 15 are presented in streamlined paper carton boxes using minimal ink. Included in the packaging is a simplified setup poster and documentation contained within an SD card.
Concierge service and support The ENVY experience extends to premium service and support via the award- winning HP Total Care program. This includes expert agents dedicated to addressing ENVY customers' questions via phone, online chat and email as well as next-day shipping for hardware customer service.
Pricing and availability The HP ENVY 13 and ENVY 15 are expected to be available in the United States on Oct. 18 with a starting price of $1,699 and $1,799, respectively.(5) Register for availability notification at www.hpdirect.com/go/newfromhp.
Additional information about HP ENVY is available at www.hp.com/go/ENVY.
About HP HP, the world's largest technology company, simplifies the technology experience for consumers and businesses with a portfolio that spans printing, personal computing, software, services and IT infrastructure. More information about HP (NYSE: HPQ) is available at http://www.hp.com/.
Note to editors: More news from HP, including links to RSS feeds, is available at http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/.
(1) Weight will vary by configuration. (2) Battery life will vary depending on the product's model, configuration, loaded applications, features and power management settings. The maximum capacity of the battery will decrease with time and usage. (3) Internet is required and sold separately.
(4) Dual/Quad/Triple Core is designed to improve performance of certain software products. Not all customers or software applications will necessarily benefit from use of this technology. 64-bit computing on Intel architecture requires a computer system with a processor, chipset, BIOS, operating system, device drivers and applications enabled for Intel 64 architecture. Processors will not operate (including 32-bit operation) without an Intel 64 architecture-enabled BIOS. Performance will vary depending on hardware and software configurations. See www.intel.com/info/em64t for more information.
(5) Estimated U.S. street prices. Actual prices may vary.
ATI Mobility Radeon is a trademark of Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Intel is a registered trademark of Intel Corp. or its subsidiaries in the United States and other countries. Corel is a registered trademark of Corel Corporation or Corel Corporation Limited.
This news release contains forward-looking statements that involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions. If such risks or uncertainties materialize or such assumptions prove incorrect, the results of HP and its consolidated subsidiaries could differ materially from those expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements and assumptions. All statements other than statements of historical fact are statements that could be deemed forward-looking statements, including but not limited to statements of the plans, strategies and objectives of management for future operations; any statements concerning expected development, performance or market share relating to products and services; any statements regarding anticipated operational and financial results; any statements of expectation or belief; and any statements of assumptions underlying any of the foregoing. Risks, uncertainties and assumptions include macroeconomic and geopolitical trends and events; the execution and performance of contracts by HP and its customers, suppliers and partners; the achievement of expected operational and financial results; and other risks that are described in HP's Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q for the fiscal quarter ended July 31, 2009 and HP's other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including but not limited to HP's Annual Report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended October 31, 2008. HP assumes no obligation and does not intend to update these forward-looking statements.
© 2009 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P. The information contained herein is subject to change without notice. The only warranties for HP products and services are set forth in the express warranty statements accompanying such products and services. Nothing herein should be construed as constituting an additional warranty. HP shall not be liable for technical or editorial errors or omissions contained herein.




































Still a bit high for my book. But I love it. As much as I don't like Apple, their designs are exquisite. Well as of late they have been kind of lacking. But still. They have reason to steal from Apple. It's not like Apple hasn't stolen from others before either.
wanted it at first glance, but $1700 and not even a CD-Rom
no thanks Apple
will wait for Dell
Let's be frank and say it. Okay? People love to copy iPhone, iPod and Mac.
You can't deny that Apple set the trend. People are waiting for iTablet so
they can continue their copy machine
@Todd
Well given the number of existing tablets, touchscreen netbooks, UMPCs and so on, there's only one thing Apple is doing at the moment, and that is following.
"Well given the number of existing tablets, touchscreen netbooks, UMPCs and so on, there's only one thing Apple is doing at the moment, and that is following."
With all due respect (and I should clarify to say "not much"), perhaps you should wait to see what it is that Apple is working on, if anything, before passing judgement. This said, Apple very rarely comes out with an original product but rather they take concepts and make them work. This is definitely something that the Tablet PC could use since the whole thing has been a bit of a failure, for obvious reasons, outside of some very niche markets.
The less said about UMPCs the better, although they were appropriately named. Um...?
Also Winner of 2009's Most Ironic Computer Award
@maddox that is what it appears to be but just wondering , isn't it possible that many people are throwing out touchscreen tablets because they know that apple is coming up with one too? im sure they have their sources and want to jump into the little craze for the sake of it
Oh yeah, because glossy screens are great.
Come on. Start calling vendors on this garbage instead of fawning over it.
I love it! The beauty of MBP without the agony of Mac OS
what's wrong with Mac OS X?
@JohnTitor
It's agonizing for him because Mac OS X reminds him how crappy Windows is overall. You might not enjoy them, but BSODs do have this sort of nostalgic feeling for some people.
Mac OS X destroyed the latest Engadget podcast, that's what's wrong with it!
I was in love until I saw the pricetag
not that I'm surprised, but still
for 1700.. ill suck it up get a macbook pro and reformat into windows :)
@Matt: I wonder what the percentage of people who do that? I bet it's higher than people will admit.
So, you want to buy a Macbook Pro and spend $200 on Windows? I like Windows 7 and all... but it's not worth it for me.
@Matt
My thoughts exactly. For that price you can get the top spec MBP, a HyperMac external battery, and still have change.
@Jon
That's what I'm planning to do. ;p
The camera really holds it back on the games though.
I don't think they look like Macbooks, but more similar to the DV4T laptops from HP, meaning it's more of an updated design rather than an Apple ripoff.
lol your delusional.
What about his delusional?
E-Man, when making fun of someone, make sure what you said is at least grammatically correct. You mean "you're"
THIS is the DV4t: http://www.digitgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/hp-pavilion-dv4t-laptop.jpg
if you think the new envy's design looks "evolutional" of the DV4t, you should go get your eyes checked at minimum; i would recommend a head scan though.
"lol your delusional."
YOU'RE illiterate.
And there are two (count 'em), TWO Shift keys on the keyboard. See if you can find one.
similiar to DV4T.........HUAHAHAHAHAHA
What a beautiful machine.
Well, almost beautiful. I'm not liking the lack of an Ethernet port on the thirteen inch model.
HP, you are not Apple. You are HP. Act like it.
Envy is like the perfect name for this thing.
I'm surprised it's not called the Voodoo Irony after Rahul's previous stunts at mocking Apple products.
An even better name would be HbookPro.
I was envious till I saw the price. Does Apple even charge this much?
Apple's 15" MacBook Pro starts at $1699, and I'd take this thing over it any day. If the battery life estimates on this thing are correct...I mean like, Apple has nothing on this. I'm confused though, does only the 13-inch lack an optical drive, or both?
No they don't Apple's 13 inch MacBook Pro costs 1,200
and Apple's listed them on the Refurbished store for 1,000
But Apple's 15 inch pro goes for 1,700 so I've got to say that Envy 15 is one HELL of a value.( up to 16GB of DDR3!! )
It'll be interesting to see what Apple will do with its next revision, I just don't see Apple adding 4 ram slots ( maybe on the 17inch ).
Late 2009 MBP's can't come any sooner. Apple better make these machines killer or I'm switching back.
Well, you're getting something comparable to Dell's XPS Studio Line (although that cheaper variants, for $1700 you're getting something similar). HP's actually late to the semi-premium power user notebook game, with Dell and Apple already here. But $1700 including dual SSD? Not bad at all.
On the flipside, both Apple and Dell out-perform the HP's screen. The Apple covers 100% of sRGB IIRC and the Studio XPS 16's 1080p RGB LED option covers 100% covers even more.
I'm sure it is "comparable" to the Dell XPS Studio line, but the Dell XPS Studio 16 looks like a fat pig next to this thing. And personally I'd rather have space for two hard drives than a DVD. I can't remember the last time I even used one other than when installing a new OS. Most of my software comes off the internet these days, and my videos too.
The looks are killer. It sounds like the build quality is right up there. Speakers look very good on the 15" anyway, always a sore point with me. Assuming the display on the 15" has a 1080p option, I might just get one of these when it comes out.
Wow that's a great looking rig. And I love the battery slice option.
Did someone put on HP logo on an Apple Macbook ?
no, they ripped off the apple logo, cut out the optical drive, and raised the price.
that's how it's done at HP now :)
normally i hate when people say stuff like that, but even i must agree this time.
Nope. Its apple that put apple logo on a Sony.
One of my pet peevees.
Whenever somebody claims a new notebook is a apple copy in looks as they get it wrong. Apple laptops are Sony copys in looks, as Sony has been doing this look for a longer time. When the apples current look came out I thought they were Sonys as they were so alike of what Sony had been doing for years.
So this laptop looks like a Sony, not apple.
Worst is whenever I somebody claims a Sony laptop is copying Apply looks. Its like claiming Fiat 127 copies Lada looks.
That was a long long post. And it contained 2 images. Isn't that out of normal for Engadget.
That was a long long post. And it contained 2 images. Isn't that out of normal for Engadget.
Whats happening to my posts...
"single button glass trackpad"
Why would they do this right click is probably the button I used the most,,,,,,,,,,,, apart from left click.
Because the track pad can do a left and right click.
Wow, what other click is there?
I've actually used this touchpad and like the review said the right click on this did not work well at all. For that matter the left click and drag function didn't work that well either. If I didn't want touchpad buttons I'd buy a Mac. But, I'm a PC user and I like my right click. PLEASE BRING BACK THE BUTTONS.
there is a serious lack of ports on the envy 13....
Well, I'm glad HP FINALLY offers a laptop that's not slathered in chrome and glossy plastic.
Recession antidote giveaway?
Ok, if I read MBP or macbook one more time *grabs 4-fifth* someone gonna get it.
After this.
Not even close to the quality of the MBP and it runs Windows. No sale.
No kidding. It probably won't even blow up or overheat and discolor the case. What a ripoff.
FTA >> "The two laptops start at $1,699 and $1,799"
Maybe it DOES cost more to make a good looking, thin, aluminum laptop with a fancy battery. All of a sudden, a 13" Macbook Pro for $1199 is a good deal.
Or, you can stick with the $599 "bowling shoe" laptop.
Although it does cost a bit for materials, I am interested what the actual specs are on the envy before I compare it to a MacBook Pro, especially if you can get a i7 in there....
Something tells me Apple is about to start their legal engines... Plus who would by a clone for $600 more, when they can get the real deal for less!?!? Makes no sense. Fail on your part HP.. Utter, total, disgraceful failure..
I have a feeling the 13-inch ENVY is going to be closer in performance to the $1,499 MacBook Pro than than the $1,199 base model. Especially if it packs a mobile Core i7. We'll have to wait and see though. It's not a huge difference, and the added battery life is nice, but I wouldn't buy it in any case. I love my Sony VAIO FW, even if it's a little fat compared to all the young, attractive notebooks.
Why? Sony never started their legal engines when Apple totally ripped off their design.
no i7 available for the Envy13. only the Envy15. says so right in the post and PR.
bummer that you typed out that whole argument based on a misread.
hahaha, why it doesn't come with OS X?
Multi-touch glass trackpad. Check
Magnesium/Aluminum Body. Check
Edge to Edge Glossy Screen. Check
Black, Chick-let Keys. Check
High Price. Check.
Wait a minute, that sounds exactly like a MacBook Pro! I'm not really liking HP at this point, it seems as if they *stole* some of Apple's ideas. Not the keyboard, as Sony did that first. Not the glossy screen, as that's pretty much on every laptop. But the grey/silver magnesium body with aluminum paint contrasting against the black keys and black glass screen... all they needed to do was make the glass trackpad silver and remove the HP logos. I'm all for quality and HP certainly is stepping up their game. But I'm inclined to say that I expected a little more originality from HP. And no, that odd etching doesn't count. Still, this is the most beautiful PC outside of Apple. It really is beautiful. But, well, that's because it looks like.... ughh couldn't they have made it look just a tad different?? Not uglier but just something to set it apart visually other than a logo?
I agree. The hinge of the 13" looks like the Macbook Air's and the one from the 15 inch looks like the Macbook Pros. Even the box is like the ones of previous gen Macbook Air's, along with the plastic black tray, and paper slip. The way the corners of the laptop chamfer is a rip from the Macbook line also. I'm all for competition, but at this point, it's more like "let's wait and see what Apple does, and then tweak their design a little and resell it as our own." No new designs ever come out from copying. We haven't seen anything fresh since the iPhone's because of competitor's complacency in design until the Zune HD--2 years later.
And for those who say that all laptops are rectangular and have a screen and a keyboard, you guys wouldn't even be able to tell your left foot from your right. Nature will weed you guys out soon enough.
Who on earth would buy the 13" version when you can get an i7 for $100 more? Does an extra 2' of computer and some heft really make that big of a deal?
If there are coupons for these that can the 15" down to $1500 or so, then I may be looking towards an xmas gift for myself.
Dang it, why is everyone trying to copy Apple? The only reason I don't have a MBP right now is because of its lack of ports but now it seems every PC that intrigues me coming out has less and less of them. Pretty soon I will have to buy a MBP only because everyone else will have just as few ports but at least the MBP will have a dang CD drive. It's far to early to call death to the CD and who really wants to carry around an external drive "just in case". I want a laptop to be an all in one portable computer, if they keep getting rid of everything so I have to carry around a bag for all the adapters, drives, usable mouse to replace that joke of a track pad, usb hub and media card reader then whats the point in buying one really? sigh, looks like my 3 year old lappy will have to keep chugging along until a manufacture can release a true portable computer, not an over sized netbook.
always trying to be an Apple macbook..... HP.. WRONG!!!!
More expensive than my macbook pro 13"
I have a CD drive.
And i can boot in Mac, linux, and windows
And I get iLife
And Magsafe
And a glowing apple to show off at Starbucks
You forgot the awesome start up sound dude, for shame! :P
Yeah, the 13" is a joke, but there isn't an apple notebook that can touch the specs on the 15". The prices for the MBPs are absolutely ridiculous compared to what you can get when you research a proper windows laptop.
@eyerishman
you also fail to realize that Apple hasn't updated their Macbook Pro's since the early summer. They update them every winter, usually end of november. the 13 inch Envy has a standard Core2Duo, which is nothing special to justify a higher price point than the 13 inch Pro. The 15 inch envy is at a good price. Especially the fact that it has core i7! now wait and see what apple does and the rest of the industry when they all flock to update their premium laptop lineups.
most mac users pay half the price just for that glowing apple to show off, anyway.
@eyerishman what makes u think the Envy15 is being offered at $1700 for the Core i7 version? the base model is $1700, with a C2D. the Ci7 is an "available option" on the Envy15, not standard.
Yes, a center mounted trackpad.
This makes the Adamo look really good. HP's industrial designers must have graduated from KIRF University.
But, the hinges look fantastic...
Wow.... Envy indeed. MacBook Envy.
Bah, the Envy 13...no optical drive, weak ATI 4330....My magnesium 13.3" LED backlit Sony SR430J with 2.53 C2D, ATI 4570, burner at 4.2lbs for $1,250 destroys this in everyway possible. Epic Fail.
The 15" is very nice though...just too big.
Do we really think that Apple is going to suddenly decide to be reasonably priced and offer an i7 or some laptop-ized i5 for anything close to what you can get a PC for? They've never been competitively priced before, so why should they start now?
The current MBPs aren't just slightly out of date, they would be considered embarrassing if any other company sold them. A 15" MBP with a core 2, mediocre graphics and mediocre memory/HD/etc for $2600 is horrendous.
i love how fanboys assume that customer service and support is free.
1. Core i7: whoopee? there is yet to be a consumer oriented OS that can maximize the potential of a multicore, multithreading cpu anyways. right now with Mac OS 10.6, Apple is closer than Windows7 in its potential to utilize a 64-bit multicore cpu effectively. it's up to developers to rewrite their programs for efficient 64-bit operation. so in reality, the introduction of a mobile Core i7 cpu is just a pecker contest at this point.
2. product support. i hope your HP never breaks. and even if you DO try to extend the warranty, you're stuck with a chain-store support plan that is ineffective at best, fraud at worst. Apple is #1 in customer support and service because they can afford to with their healthy margins on products. quality, price, or performance... you can only have 2 out of the 3.
i've owned gateway, dell, and hp laptops over the past 12 years and experienced first-hand the service and support nightmares provided by dell and hp with both the standard and extended warranty programs. i only last year bought my first macbook due to the service and support provided by Apple. if something goes wrong, i have somewhere i can actually take it to, or speak to a telephone support agent that speaks english natively. no "geek squad", no bogus "extended support plans", etc.
3. believe it or not, the current crop of MBP's arent beyond "slightly out of date" as you imply. you're now just reaching for anything to help justify your choice in computers. honestly, you shouldnt need to justify that... unless you're insecure about your purchase. besides, refer back to point #1.
anyways, i anxiously await your reply stating that you've never had a bunk computer, that you're an engineering god who can fix it if it breaks, and that a $400 geek squad extended warranty is a better value than paying $100-500 more upfront for a better QUALITY computer with superior product support over the rest of the big brands. or for even more entertainment, maybe you'll attack my intelligence, assuming i'm incapable of breathing without assistance, much less replacing a hard drive or upgrading RAM.
but what i really fear is that you'll selectively misread anything i've typed in a lazy attempt to discredit my argument or simply call me a sucker for valuing quality over quantity.
or worse, you'll just ignore my wall of text.
Ugh, oakie, you have no idea how much of an Apple fanboy you are, do you?
1. Mac OS 10 may support multi-cores better, but that doesn't mean Windows 7 can't. The Core i7 processor is a feature which this laptop has that NO Mac has.
2. Tech support? When did eyerishman ever mention that? I know Apple has awesome tech support (iPhone cable problem here, resolved timely and efficiently), but damn. You really pulled that one out of your ass, didn't you?
3. Yes, the Macbook Pros are out of date FOR THEIR PRICE. Their pricing scheme is just brutal. For the price of a 15 inch MBP with 2.8GHZ C2D, I could get the exact same processor, Blu-Ray (a feature I'd use), a 1080p display, a monster GPU, Microsoft Office, a nice case, a mouse, some headphones, a case of beer... need I go on?
So, I would honestly buy a computer that costs less, does more, and drink a nice cold beer to boot than pay for better tech support/crash freeness. It's THAT simple. And Windows 7, in my RC experience, has been VERY reliable and easy to use, thank you very much. Not to mention quick. Much quicker than Vista.
Well i think people should be glad that hp left room on the back to put an apple sticker.
Thank god, it's about time somebody made this comment. The first 200 times don't count, so it's good that you chimed in.
@eyerishman
amazing! that type of statement has been made "200 times already" despite there being only 66 comments posted, including this one.
i dunno what's more pitiful at this point... people repeatedly commenting on it's KIRFiness or you constantly crying.
There was a thread yesterday as well. Frankly I don't care how anything looks, as long as it has the specs.
I agree with eyerishman, but does anyone agree that the components Apple uses to build their products are far better than most used by other pc brands?
The Governor
http://www.digitalmindcomputers.com
Waitwaitwait.... Audio by Beats by Dr. Dre?
Read the presser, and also, some of the pics I have seen on other sites shown show a "b" (beatsbydre) logo on the right side by the grille on the side.
I'm surprised that slipped by Engadget! I was expecting a full-on "Monster Sucks" rant!
I don't understand why one should pay 1700 for a copy machine ...
its a copy of macbook 13 and its expensive than that :O
I might have think about it if it cost 700 not 1700
the other HP pro ...looks copy of lattitude.
Hey HP don't you have any designer ?
Epic Fail HP. Way to destroy what little was left of the Voodoo brand. The Voodoo Envy 133 and it's carbon fiber case was a gorgeous machine. All it needed was the 15" variant and updated components and it would've been a killer machine. Instead, you just mimic Apple and show you have zero originality. Very sad.
HP should be embarrassed.
cuz' of the price ?
Yes, absolutely.
Design ?
Na, they never invented it anyways, it's already copied from the MacBok Pro, lol
Which is the nicest design of all.
OMFG this is the biggest right shift I've ever seen :O
Apple still Apple...HP still HP.... never gonna take over the beauty of Macbook
I was really looking to the 13" machine but the price completely destroyed any hope of me getting one. Sexy little machine HP, but WTF is up with the pricing? Looks like I get to keep my 13" Macbook Pro longer.
Why the hell is everyone blabbering about the design.It looks like macbook pro? Is this a fashion blog? Sure it looks like a ripoff but a core i7 quad core with Mobility Radeon 4830 is in a totally different league than even the 17 inch macbook pro.
This beast can can play the latest games as smoothly as silk and encoding/decoding HD video on this laptop will be incredibly fast.It is light and sleek and has intels turbo boost technology which makes it more energy efficient too and its price is a fair deal for its features.What more do you want in a laptop?
Agree completely. Sure it looks like an MBP. It totally rips off the design. WTF do I care? I like the MBP design, but sorry I run Windows, and use lots of Windows applications. Running Windows on a MBP might be possible, but I don't feel like dealing with the missing keys and support issues thanks. I'm perfectly happy with a laptop that looks like an MBP and I like the changes that I'm aware of so far--two drives, no optical, battery slice, AMD graphics, i7 processor--that are in the 15" Envy.
I think I'm gonna buy one of these when they become available.
That Slim Fit extension battery is such a nice/novel idea. Everyone else should now copy them.
Nice ideas should be copied and improved upon.
It's an idea that started out with Tablet PCs.
HP simply copied other tablet makers. Though they may be the first to use battery 'slices' on conventional laptops.
@bootareen
Middle click.
New laptop hunters commercial:
Lauren: "Sure, I wanted a mac, but the guy at the Bazaar kept shouting 'just as good, just as good. looks just like it.' So, I'm a PC?"
It looks like what I would imagine to be a next gen macbook air, but thicker and over powered.
When the new Air does come out, we will probably mock Apple for stealing hp's design.
And it will be fun.
Dear PC laptops,
Stop looking like MacBooks!!! K thx bye.
-Jason
Hmm, it is to bad they finally beefed up the specs a little and in my opinion they made it look significantly worse oh well
I can get a refurb 13" macbook for $999 and run bootcamp and have a dvd drive. If it was $1000-1100 I would really be interested.