Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3t review

Look and feel

For a netbook the .79-inch S10-3t is actually rather trim, and it's noticeably narrower than other 10-inch systems. While it's obviously thicker than standalone tablets or e-readers like the Kindle DX, when equipped with its four-cell battery the 2.7-pound tablet was light enough to hold up in bed while reading. However, that eight-cell bulging battery version that we saw at CES looks like it would be incredibly uncomfortable to hold in arm.

As a result of the S10-3t's narrower dimensions, its palmrest is thinner, which in turn means very limited touchpad real estate. The rectangular pad with its integrated mouse buttons is about the size of a USB stick, and provides an incredibly cramped navigation experience. While it doesn't make up for all the backtracking our fingers had to do, we do like the feel of the raised dots on the pad itself. Are we totally crazy for thinking Lenovo should have grabbed a ThinkPad pointing stick and stuck it in the middle of the keyboard?
Screen and tablet performance

Multitouch gestures were responsive; we got in the hang of sticking two fingers on the screen to scroll down the length of web pages or pinching to make text larger. As soon as you swing the display around using the S10-3t's fairly sturdy, bidirectional hinge, Lenovo's Natural Touch interface launches. The full screen finger-friendly carousel interface provides large shortcuts to Lenovo's own photo, music and e-book software. We're not sure why you'd choose this multimedia software over Microsoft's Media Player and Photo Gallery, but the e-book software does open PDF or e-pub files and adds note taking and bookmark functions. Though it's a nice piece of software, we preferred Amazon's Kindle for PC app to access our collection of already-purchased titles.
While the touch reading experience was smooth and we enjoyed flicking through pages and pinching to zoom in on text, it was our experience reading the New York Times Reader while laying down that brought out the biggest issue with the screen – its viewing angles. Though the extra glossy screen contributes somewhat to the issues, we encountered major color distortion both horizontally and vertically, and at some angles we couldn't even see what was on the screen. It was especially apparent when we tried to look at an Olympic photo gallery while lying in bed – we had to adjust ourselves and the tablet quite a bit to comfortably flick through the images. Why Lenovo had to use a cheap LCD on this device is beyond us – it craps up a perfectly enjoyable experience.
The device has an accelerometer, but we found it to be a bit flaky; we ended up using the button on the side of the screen more often than not to change the screen orientation, and even when we used this solution we got impatient with the typical five second adjustment period. Lastly, we should mention that Lenovo doesn't include a stylus, so if you want to take advantage of Windows 7's handwriting functionality you're going to need to come up with one of your own or, you know, find a piece of meat.
Performance and battery life

| PCMark05 | 3DMark06 | Battery Life | |
| Lenovo IdeaPad S10-3t | 1348 | 160 | 3:12 |
| HP Mini 210 | 1393 | 147 | 5:15 |
| ASUS Eee PC 1005PE | 1431 | 157 | 8:10 |
| Toshiba Mini NB305 | 1272 | 156 | 6:30 |
On our video rundown test the S10-3t's four-cell battery lasted three hours and 12 minutes, but when we actually used the system to write this review and surf the Web we got close to four and a half hours of battery life. In our minds that's not all that bad considering the battery fits flush with the system, but you can always go up to the chunky eight-cell for a couple more bucks.
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Another crappy non-Apple tablet.
Imagine that?
@SCXFAN
And Apple fans still spend their time wondering why the web community writes them off before they open their mouths?
@SCXFAN
Another generic kool-aid drinker comment.
Hey, at least in the s10-3t I'd be able to see the video.
@LAY
web community? or employees of Microsoft and Google? LOL.
@jaffreywali
Web community, a little band of nerds who post on gadget forums, bashing Apple to gain cred amongst their peers.
It's kinda sad really. Most of these people don't know anything but Apple and Microsoft. Apple is making more news, so it's cool to bash them. The real reason most people dislike Apple is cos they make harder for these creatures to get their Pirate Bay downloads on their devices
@jaffreywali
Yeah, you clowns, it's all stupid idiot nerd Microsoft and Google "employees" that think morons tossing Apple fanboy-oriented comments is annoying.
Whatever makes you feel better.
@pukerocket You pretty much captured it. Although I myself think that a lot of folks hating on apple products are actually Google/Android minions out to change mindshare. If the public perception of Apple products changes, they do better.
Why do people care so much about companies? They're not your friends. They're out to sell you stuff and make money off you.
Minor criticisms aside, why is a full-blown netbook w/ keyboard, real OS, and tablet capabilities considered "premium" priced at $649? I haven't seem the word "premium" applied to the pricing on Apples upcoming tablet with no keyboard, and a crippled OS.
Will Engadget start using the term "premium" whenever it discusses the iPad's price? Yea, I didn't think so. That's for playing the double standard game, guys.
@Spiny Norman I think premium is appropriate here, given you can get either a traditional netbook or a pure-tablet with similar specs and a full OS for less. So you're paying a premium for having the dual-capabilities. The iPad is another story, merits of it's OS aside, it is a fair bit cheaper unless you get the "premium" 3G version.
@windsorsean
The iPad is not a 'fair bit cheaper' when one takes into consideration that the iPad is nothing more than a very large Personal Media Player with virtually no computing autonomy.
Sure, I'll buy an iPad soon enough, but there's a world of difference between paying US 450.00 to 650.00 for a fully-functioning capacitive touchscreen computer (the S10-3t) and a US 500.00 to 830.00 for an awkwardly proportioned iPod Touch (iPad).
4 times thicker than ipad (at least)
1/3 of the battery life
crippled touch screen, this ebook flipping seems awful, compared to ipad.
It has fan, it's heavy.
Not useful at all. Ipad has the point. Others stil don't.
@Gokhan You're obviously missing the point here:
The Lenovo S10-3t is an actual portable computer that effectively runs the entire library of millions of Windows programs, yet offers full multi-touch functionality, as well the the ability to boot into (linux-based) QuickStart for those times when you just want a bit of instant-on web surfing or media consumption.
Apple's iPad is simply a very large Personal Media Player, with absolutely no computing autonomy e.g. no expandability, no media card reader. It's completely tied into Apple's iTunes ecosystem.
It's funny that there are those complaining about the (US 450.00) starting price of Lenovo's fully functioning S10-3t, yet find Apple's severely/limited personal media player, with a price-range of US 500.00 to 830.00 (with a fraction of the storage space) completely acceptable.
@DaHarder
Do you know how many consumers are going to buy this crapvertible? I haven't a clue but it will be around 10,000 units for the entire year. Lenovo should be ashamed of itself. They cut every corner they could and thought they could fool the consumer with this pseudo tablet-netbook kludge. I'm not saying it's useless. It's just not consumer-friendly and it won't sell. Chalk this up as an average consumer's worst nightmare. The worst of both worlds.
Personally,
I really love my Lenovo S10-3t, especially after replacing the HD with a 128gb SSD.
The capacitive touch screen works extremely well, it's nice and speedy, very well-built, and the battery life (under normal usage) has never dipped below 6.5 hours.
@DaHarder
Is that 6.5 hours with a 4 cell or the 8 cell battery? Glad to hear an SSD speeds this baby up, that's what I was hoping to hear!
@ZombieRace
I have the 8-cell battery, but I have achieved a bit over 10 hours of battery autonomy when doing nothing but surfing the net, office documents etc (read: no video watching or heavy multimedia activity).
The SSD installation was an upgrade well worth the effort - IMO
@DaHarder I don't understand how you can use it as a tablet with the 8 cell battery. With the 8-cell battery the thing weighs 3.3 pounds! Sure lying in bed with it on your tummy might work, or resting it on an armchair. But reading standing up on a subway car or whatever for any length of time would seem impossible. Major gorilla arm!
The swivel hinge lets you do without an external keyboard and a stand. So if you're on the go then you don't have to lug around 2 periphs.
Unfortunately this is the way it always works in the PC world. We can choose between a cheap, shiny plastic version that's just not good enough, or an overkill very expensive version, never anything in the middle. Frustrating.
There is a market for users whose primary joy from using a product is to go into control panel and tweak the settings there and to install various registry cleaners and generall keep their system in tip top shape. These users also tend to surf the web, but are careful to delete the cache, remove history and run a system cleaner religiously. A major event is keeping up with the weekly software updates from Microsoft. Products like the ipad is NOT for them. In fact Apple does not seem interested in catering to that market.
I recently purchased a Vaio X. I got it over the ipad (I could have waited) mainly because it was Windows 7, I was able to remote desktop into my office PC and it had the same weight and dimensions as the iPad. Of course it cost me $1299 with 64GB SSD and 3G Verizon service. iPad would be around $850 for a similar speced version.
I have the 250MB Verizon plan. When I got it, I was having wi fi issues at home so put it on Verizon. The thing downloaded and installed over 250MB of updates from MSFT. This is a brand new computer!!! Not only that, but I use this mostly for travelling and everytime I boot it up (which is around once a week or every other week) I get an install update notification and the system crawls to a stand still while it is installing stuff and then it tries to reboot. In a nutshell, it may be running a full OS, but using it is a NIGHTMARE!!!! It seemed like a great solution on specs, but it's crazy!!!!! I was presenting before an audience at a convention and the thing tells me it is about to start some automated tuning feature and then it kept showing me notifications that my system may be exposed to risk because the anti virus was outdated and was not protecting me.
I am not sure what the web 'community' hates so much about Apple and loves this whole OS on a mobile device thing. But I will NEVER recommend a netbook to anyone. I thought I got the top of the line netbook that runs a 2Ghz processor, has 2GB RAM and 64GB SSD drive. It has inbuilt 3G from Verizon, a 10Hr battery life, weights 1.5lbs (1.7 with extended battery) and is a slim .55 inches thick. BUT the full OS does have it's drawbacks in terms of usability.
@jaffreywali Thanks for posting your experience. That's always been my concern with devices that small, that they really need a different OS to be a positive experience. It could be Android, Chrome OS, iPhone OS, or Windows Phone 7 Series. It just needs to be very focused on the tasks it exists to do, and not have the bloat and malware issues associated with a full OS. I just can't see Win 7 being a pleasant experience on a small (sub 10") tablet, at least not for a long while.
@jaffreywali
The thing with most tweeks is that they invariable slow down the software and cause problems. Sure, most nerds think they know what they're doing, but they don't really.
If you spend a few hours each week tweeking all your stuff, you gotta pretend you made it run faster
@jaffreywali: I find it hard to believe this. "Some automated tuning feature"? You didn't check to see what bloat ware Sony pre-installed when you first got the machine? You didn't immediately uninstall any said bloatware? You didn't set your machine to notify you of updates, but not install, because, well, you use it for presentations? You NEED a machine for presentations, and decided your only choices were the VAIO X or the iPad? Not the Acer 1810, which you can find just about anywhere, with a variety of outputs, way cheaper than the VAIO X, and faster?
Hasn't engadget taught you anything?
@jaffreywali
> There is a market for users whose primary joy from using a product
> is to go into control panel and tweak the settings there and to install
> various registry cleaners
...or surf any random website and expect it to just work.
...or play some random bit of music or video not bought from Apple and expect it to just work.
...or connect to the local network or a USB drive.
A couple of months ago, those use cases also characterized Apple users. Now that Big Brother has announced a new direction, it seems that those use cases are of no interest to the Apple faithful anymore.
I will probably buy the first hybrid ION netbook to hit the shelves.
I've already dumped my desktop Macs for desktop ION machines.
@jaffreywali
> There is a market for users whose primary joy from using a product
> is to go into control panel and tweak the settings there and to install
> various registry cleaners
Don't even go there. My minis are always asking me to reboot for updates. It's bloody annoying. It's the sort of thing that really undermines the "romance".
@jedi
God forbid you turn off automatic updates! :O
@Alan Strangis
It comes preinstalled with Vaio Care software that is from Intel. I am going with standard configurations for installing updates etc.
I also have a Vaio FW that I like.
I don't use my laptop to listen to music, though Hulu performance sucks on the vaio x.
Like I said, I like the design and style of the vaio x. It's dimensions in fact are close to the ipad and the screen resolution is better. On paper the vaio x is a better machine. The other netbooks have incredibly bad build quality and design.
Exactly how many of you were lying in bed using this device, mz. Stern?
Nice review. Sounds like this is a typical first generation product. Once they work out the bugs, it sounds like this will be a pretty good product to look into but for now, I'll just stick with my $300 1005PE.
@TheGame21x
Lenovo has been making touchscreen/tablet convertibles for quite some time now, and the S10-3t is actually a much more pleasant user experience than expressed in this review.
Above all (for me) is the fact that the S10-3t is an actual fully-functioning capacitive touch-screen computer that can be purchased for under US 500.00 as opposed to being merely a gigantic, locked-down, personal media player starting at the same price...
The Choice Is Yours.
@DaHarder
The choice is real simple.
The Apple iPad over the Lenovo crap thingy.
@SCXFAN
*RING*... you might want to take that call, it's little Stevie-Peep calling home all of his sheep - LOL!
Note: Simple doesn't necessarily mean 'simple-mined' for the more demanding/astute consumer.
@DaHarder
The st10-3t costs $500. Not under $500.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834146704&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Netbooks-_-Lenovo-_-34146704
I like the idea, but not the price
Seeing as how on my own computer the biggest bottleneck when I bought it was the HDD I think that probably has a lot to do with the snappiness of different software when using the touchscreen.
The Ipod touch and the Zune HD both use NAND flash as far as I know which would make them much snappier than a slow mechanical HDD. Put a SSD in a device like this and I'm sure it will performing much better. I would probably take Anandtech's advice though and not get the SSD packaged computer from the manufacturer but rather purchase an SSD separately, maybe one from OCZ or other similar company, and install that yourself.
@notlofty Completely agree. Problem is that'll add another $200 plus to this things price, which is already a bit much. The whole point with netbooks is that they're supposed to be cheap. If its not going to be that cheap, why should you put up with the crappy processor. If you're going to spend serious money upgrading it I'd rather start with a CULV processor at the very least... And a better screen and trackpad too...
@Fanfoot
Eh, not anymore. A 30gb SSD will cost you under $100 now. Not a lot of space compared to a HDD but it is the same amount of space as the other touch based products people try to compare devices like this to.
My main point was that people try to compare everything to the ipod/ipad in terms of how the touch works but they have to realize more reasons why the touch may not perform as well.
Good concept, work out the bugs with the sluggish software and hardware, work smooth displaying 720p, drop $100 bucks off the price and this thing will make the iPad look like crap. Sorry, I know thats going to ruffle the nerves of Apple fans but the iPad will never beat a fully properly equipped Netbook with a full OS, now if they manage to stick Snow Leopard on it and it works flawlessly then I would give Apple their props.
Thanks for the review.
One little thing. +1 to you for taking a photo of the business end (bottom) of the machine.
Now as a favor to those of us that like to break stuff, buy a number 0 Phillips and take that cover off.
Sent from my unhackintoshed Mini9 tethered to a 3 yo WinMo phone.
Did anyone else see Circa Survive's album art in the video?
Yea.... still waiting.
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Delicious tears
What about the older s10-3t with the N450 processor it has a price tag of about half that of the newer N470? At the local tigerdirect here in toronto its going for $470 + taxes