From what we know of Anssi Vanjoki, he's a great guy and one that isn't afraid of
admitting his company's mistakes. Alas, now we can also add to that dossier the ignominious fact that the fella doesn't seem to know how professional cameras work. Talking about the
rapid improvement in cameraphone technology during a speech in Helsinki yesterday, Vanjoki said that very soon "there will be no need to carry around those heavy lenses." He's really enthusiastic about HD video coming to phones, which he predicts will be here within 12 months (if you ask Sony Ericsson, it's
here already), but we just can't let that spectacular line about lenses slide. The glass you shoot through is, for a lot of people,
the most important piece of photographic equipment and there are genuine reasons why said lenses are heavy, elongated, and typically unfriendly to pockets. Then again, this dude also thought the
N-Gage was gonna be a success, so don't start selling off that glass stockpile just yet.
posted April 21st 2010 5:04AM
Dream on...
Anssi Vanjoki is an idiot... The SLR has far more going for it than just taking pictures. Zoom, Settings, Lenses, Resolution... etc. This is the reason compact digital camera's haven't displaced SLR cameras, and they are more likely to replace them than cell phones, which has half the resolution of compact digital cameras, even in HD.
Yes, because a cell phone will somehow have the field of depth that a nice lense gives /facepalm
@victorstuber
EDoF?
This guy smoked too much of purple kush last night in Amsterdam...
Cell phone might replace a point n shoot that I don't own but never a DSLR!
Engadget should be rename to AppleEnGadget.com
The human eye has nice capabilites even though it's small and clearly doesn't have the best possible optics.
Nokia has long been investigating methods of implementing the same processes that play key role in creating the human/animal vision system, but digitally. Much of this has to do with realtime processing of the sensor data that is acquired.
So we are not necessarily talking about implementing CMOS type of array and superior optics, but more like some sort of an adaptive and active sensor array and very, very clever software. I know for some certainty that Nokia is interested in technologies that have to do with capturing the electromagnetic wavefront of visible light in some very intelligent way, possibly discarding the need for quality optics.
Of course I have no idea what Anssi Vanjoki had in mind when he made the comment, but I would assume (and hope) it was something along the lines what I just wrote.
Being able to swap the lens is the biggest benefit. It's possible point & shoot tech might catch up to a DSLR but they'll never be able to have the flexibility of swapping lenses the way a DSLR can short of some kind of black magic. So excuse me while I lol.
Hehe... yeah, I don't see mobile phone camera making a DSLR obsolete anytime soon.
HOWEVER, I could see it happening with point and shoot cameras. Hell, I'd love it if that happened. I currently own a point and shoot, which I'm generally satisfied with. But I'd still like to get a DSLR for the times when I want to take a truly nice photo. If I can get a phone with a camera that covers all the point and shoot bases, that's one less gadget to carry around. Same concept as using a phone as your portable media player... something I'm hoping to do pretty soon (as soon as mobile phone storage is sufficient). It won't replace a proper home stereo system, but it can certainly replace an ipod.
Heck no, small sensor can't catch up with big sensor, all they can do is put more pixel and digital noise reduction which won't look as nature as big sensor camera.
But camera phone rapid improve has made direct rival to those Flip HD, or $100-200 pocker camera, but phone need to had xenon flash build, too few has them.
Nokia is the one that is going obsolete...not DSLR.
@miakotamatsue
Yeah, worlds biggest maker of phones, camera's and music players and soon obsolete. Sure.
Oh deary me what a silly billy!
For shure new, better, faster sensors will allow better quality on portable gadgets, less plastic for lenses, supporting raw formats...all this will help. Replacing a good glass lens...no, not going to happen any time soon.
Nokia has always been at the forefront of mobile imaging. They've taken a two year hiatus from strongly developing their camera tech, and are still arguably the best in image quality across their portfolio. While Engadget may give Nokia, OPK, Annsi, etc the credit they deserve, my experience says we should listen.
He said the need to carry large lenses. That could mean a 3/4ths camera system that has smaller lenses, a digital processing trick to mimick focal length and depth of field, or maybe some sort of liquid lens technology we haven't seen yet.
I happen to think he's credible, and totally expect Nokia to retake the imaging throne in spades soon, and I'm sure Nokia has access to new technology already. Just a few weeks ago on 60 Minutes, they showed a small block used to power homes, and I was skeptical until I heard Google and others are already using them to power parts of their campus. Until you become CEO and amass millions of bucks for your knowledge, know your role, Doubting Thomas. Assumptions are aplenty, but have little value.
Anyone who thinks cellphone cameras are a substitute for even basic compact point & shoot cameras let alone SLRs needs their head examined.
Even if you put the best camera engineers and scientists in a room and told them to make a money-is-no-object cellphone camera, it still wont be as good as a proper camera due to the physical size of the lens and of the sensor. (and you cant add a bigger sensor or lens without making the phone bigger)
ahahahahahahahah. thats rich. been itchin to give up my XTi...wow
He thinks he can put Carl Zeiss out of business~
Carl, stop supplying your name to this guy~ he has no idea what he's doing.
He could be on a point about minuturization of techs, he maybe right in around a thousand years, but not anytime soon. This guy is stupid.
http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/04/27/first-12-megapixel-sample-photos-shot-on-nokia-n8-untouched/
Deal with it. No matter how hard it could be for you to understand, its just a matter of time. And then, who is joking?