Good week for Palm. Let's see webOS on a slate, that'd be awesome! Multitasking, slick notifications, this thing might kick the iPad's butt. (Not in sales, but in performance. ;-) )
@RottingOrange Come on, people. Seriously, do you think HP is going to totally kill off tablets? They want to put a beefy version of webOS on their tablets and COMPETE!
Now, they need to team up with a solid media manager (doubletwist) and get this thing going!
@RottingOrange Performance? I think not. I have a Pre and its the slowest battery sucking phone I have ever owned. The multitasking is ok but ipad will have it with OS4 which is really the only thing WebOS has over the ipad/iphone. Apple also crushes it in terms of Apps so I dont see a WebOS tablet hurting the iPad at all.
@HowardtheDuck like i said, there was only one winner and its microsoft. hp slate is absolutely awesome except for the windows 7 thing not working out, now let me tell you this. if microsoft was about to go bankrupt more than the national debt, would u lend microsoft some money apple? huh? i think well leave it to the administrators to decide.
@sweet greggo You know what? You're really right. I'd like a webOS tablet, but it wouldn't be that useful, Courier WOULD have been useful (as a student and graphic/web designer). Oh well. :-/
In sales too... if HP can get its act together with Palm.
I mean HP makes Apple look like a joke... HP is in every home, office, server room, etc... and Apple hangs out at some art studios, old schools, and hipsters houses... oh yeah and the iPod hangs out at the gym.
When they announced the HP palm deal I pointed out how bad this is for MS.... I was accused of trolling by "fast" even though I was just making an obvious observation...
Hardware makers owning their own OS is just about the worst thing that could happen to MS.
I tip my hat to HP for trying to avoid banking their future on MS. HP isn't going to allow what happened on the desktop to happen again. Good lookn HP!
HP threw away money on Palm but at least it's saving money by not selling an instant failure in the HP Slate. The HP Slate was one of the most ill-conceived projects ever. Take a netbook, snap off the keyboard and try to sell it to consumers as an innovative product for a higher price than a netbook. HP must have really thought consumers were stupid. Only geeks are that stupid by trying requesting a light tablet that runs a fully-bloated Windows 7 desktop OS. Just because Steve Ballmer thinks it would be cool. Why are these people so stupid? Nobody but some old-school corporate IT manager would want some crap like that. He'd hand it to some poor sales guy who'd want to cry for getting stuck with some next-to-useless device.
Rest in peace, JooJoo, Courier and HP Slate. What crap tablet is next on the list? Notion Ink Adam or WePad?
@Ryan Deen Indeed. in fact access to Palm's WebOS is likely the major reason for the buy. It is at the moment the best contender to complete with Apple's mobile OS
Who exactly is asking for webOS on a tablet? Nobody. HP just bought Palm. You think they're going to be able to build a webOS tablet within the next week or two? Performance from using what? Somehow everyone thinks you can just slap a device and mobile OS together and build a world-beater in a month. It doesn't work like that. Not even if you throw millions of dollars into it. HTC might be able to do it because they have a diverse knowledge of mobile development, but not HP. HP doesn't have a clue about mobile. Palm's teams might, but that remains to be seen.
And oh yes, WebOS... one more thing... Now that you are here... rest a while and get some new hardware... and you can do a lot more justice to your name!
What in the HECK? I have to say I'm deeply disappointed by this and the Courier news... especially the Courier news; I really thought I was going to be getting one of those. :(
I wonder what's going on here from an economic perspective. Are they looking at iPad sales numbers and thinking: there's not enough of a demand? Are they looking at iPad numbers and thinking: Apple's already cornered this market? I suspect that the former is more likely than the latter; despite these recent news items, I still have no desire to own an iPad, so....
Meh, I'm still waiting for my Mirasol Win 7 tablet anyway....
@kapryt Yes, HP hangs like a dark depressing cloud all over the place, but less and less thank heavens. People are waking up to the fact you can ENJOY working on your machines. There's no need to suffer Microsoft and their cronies any more.
@beckhams777 Well, according to most financial news sites earlier this week, HP is putting the Slate on hold until it integrates Palm, but it's going to take at least until the fall of this year just to do this integration. After that, they expect at least a year of development before seein WebOS on ANY device, which means next winter is probably the earliest you'll see the WebOS slate. http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-doesnt-have-to-worry-about-the-hp-slate-anymore-2010-4
Proves that Apple has nearly perfected the time-to-market and product media-info-manipulation business of selling tech. It's sort of like breaking out of the Mhz/Ghz wars back in the day... that MS started.
MS is truly in the hot seat to perform. Windows 7 is a gonna be a short lease on life.
@HowardtheDuck I wonder where all the people That a couple months ago stated That the the slate would have full windows 7 and that's what they want in a tablet.
Not necessarily a bad news if HP has decided to take a step back to re-evaluate its arsenal and come up with better hardware+software (Slate+WebOS) combo to assault Apple's hot-selling iPad in near future.
Same thing with MS... who knows what component of Courier are they not willing to commit to - dual-screen form factor or the OS? Or both? If both, can some hand me some tissues to wipe my tears :((
@HowardtheDuck First MS halted the production of the courier tablet (sad) Now, HP is leaving windows for the production of their webOS powered slate (I'm sad for windows, but I'm happy for palm) Reactions to the hp slate of ces. http://j.mp/hp-slate-first-concepts
@Narutogrey -- "but it's going to take at least until the fall of this year just to do this integration. After that, they expect at least a year of development before seein WebOS on ANY device, which means next winter is probably the earliest you'll see the WebOS slate."
Exactly.
Palm has a couple of pretty cool phones... the Pre and Pixi. They are now on 2 carriers in the US with one more carrier soon... and they practically went out of business. HP swooped in and saved them.
I can't imagine developers jumping on board to start making WebOS apps for a new tablet... since the phone platform didn't make them do it. And everybody needs a phone.
But, who knows. A year and a half later... maybe a WebOS tablet will do well.
But, by that time... there will be a few million iPads in the world.
Everyone hated the iPad... and set their hopes on the Windows HP Slate and the Courier. Now both of those products have been scrapped... but the iPad is still here.
Now people are betting on the NotionInk Adam... and the yet to be announced WebOS tablet.
It's the shipping product vs. the future product... once again.
@MosesusedaniPad Gee.. I'm pretty sure I'm not stupid by wanting a faster, lighter version of the HP TC1100 that I love so much. And the OS I'm running on the 1.1GHz 2GB RAM slate? Windows 7 Ultimate. It runs just fine. Sure, it isn't as fast as my quad core desktop, but definitely usable.
I've got no problem with a multi-touch slate PC - I'm sure it would be nice, but without that active digitizer & stylus, not useful for anything beyond surfing and movies. For digital art and OneNote, only a stylus will do.
Am I in the minority? Maybe. Am I stupid for wanting one? Definitely not.
WOW just look at the fanboys celebrating for unconfirmed rumors, such a victorious day for them. Even so, it is still too early too celebrate, Microsoft is like the terminator, he will say to you, "I'll be back"
@RottingOrange Palm just got bought out by another company. No matter how you wanna put it, it is not really a good week. Well, I know the company was dying and all, but no company would really wanna loose itself.
Bad week for Microsoft? They just released excellend earnings and slyly licensed technology to HTC for the Androids! I'd say things are going pretty well for them and their future plans.
Following the commercial success (and technical disappointment) of the original Wildfire -- which featured a miserly 528MHz CPU and QVGA display -- HTC has returned with the Wildfire S.
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Bad week for Microsoft.
@HowardtheDuck
Good week for Palm. Let's see webOS on a slate, that'd be awesome! Multitasking, slick notifications, this thing might kick the iPad's butt. (Not in sales, but in performance. ;-) )
@HowardtheDuck
First the Courier now the HP Slate!!! It's an iPad Killers Double Kill!!
@RottingOrange Come on, people. Seriously, do you think HP is going to totally kill off tablets? They want to put a beefy version of webOS on their tablets and COMPETE!
Now, they need to team up with a solid media manager (doubletwist) and get this thing going!
@RottingOrange
Keep dreaming.
@RottingOrange
i'm a launch day Pre owner, but the thought of a WebOS tablet excites me about as much as the iPad, which is not at all.
the device I wanted to come to market was the courier. I have an actual need for a device like that.
@HowardtheDuck
I'm actually sad, but excited at the same time. I'd rather wait a couple more months and get WebOS on a tablet with no laggy OS.
@RottingOrange Performance? I think not. I have a Pre and its the slowest battery sucking phone I have ever owned. The multitasking is ok but ipad will have it with OS4 which is really the only thing WebOS has over the ipad/iphone. Apple also crushes it in terms of Apps so I dont see a WebOS tablet hurting the iPad at all.
@HowardtheDuck like i said, there was only one winner and its microsoft. hp slate is absolutely awesome except for the windows 7 thing not working out, now let me tell you this. if microsoft was about to go bankrupt more than the national debt, would u lend microsoft some money apple? huh? i think well leave it to the administrators to decide.
@HowardtheDuck
Looking Forward for the HP WebOS SLATE YEAH
@B3ASTx3
2 ipad killers have been killed this week even without born, but 1 ipad is born WebOS SLATE
@beckhams777
A couple of months?? Don't hold your breath on anything that quick.
@sweet greggo
You know what? You're really right. I'd like a webOS tablet, but it wouldn't be that useful, Courier WOULD have been useful (as a student and graphic/web designer). Oh well. :-/
@HowardtheDuck
:::///// iPad just did a double kill.
@RottingOrange
In sales too... if HP can get its act together with Palm.
I mean HP makes Apple look like a joke... HP is in every home, office, server room, etc... and Apple hangs out at some art studios, old schools, and hipsters houses... oh yeah and the iPod hangs out at the gym.
@Ryan Deen Probably not.
Kill off the Windows based tablets? Probably yes.
Don't see why the Pocket Protector Patrol is so hot on Windows on a tablet. Its just failure in the making.
@B3ASTx3 HELL YEA! Oh, I'm waiting for the Slate or Courier, not gonna get the IFail. Nobody's gonna buy it... total prediction fail, man.
@HowardtheDuck and in other news Korn commemorates a song to them, called "Dead Tablets Everywhere".
"You really want me to use, a stylus. Why? It makes me feel, like no one."
@HowardtheDuck
When they announced the HP palm deal I pointed out how bad this is for MS.... I was accused of trolling by "fast" even though I was just making an obvious observation...
Hardware makers owning their own OS is just about the worst thing that could happen to MS.
I tip my hat to HP for trying to avoid banking their future on MS. HP isn't going to allow what happened on the desktop to happen again. Good lookn HP!
@HowardtheDuck
HP threw away money on Palm but at least it's saving money by not selling an instant failure in the HP Slate. The HP Slate was one of the most ill-conceived projects ever. Take a netbook, snap off the keyboard and try to sell it to consumers as an innovative product for a higher price than a netbook. HP must have really thought consumers were stupid. Only geeks are that stupid by trying requesting a light tablet that runs a fully-bloated Windows 7 desktop OS. Just because Steve Ballmer thinks it would be cool. Why are these people so stupid? Nobody but some old-school corporate IT manager would want some crap like that. He'd hand it to some poor sales guy who'd want to cry for getting stuck with some next-to-useless device.
Rest in peace, JooJoo, Courier and HP Slate. What crap tablet is next on the list? Notion Ink Adam or WePad?
@Ryan Deen Indeed. in fact access to Palm's WebOS is likely the major reason for the buy. It is at the moment the best contender to complete with Apple's mobile OS
@HowardtheDuck I think it's HP's intention to get out from under Microsoft's thumb now that they have Palm's webOS.
@hbueain It was a perfect, ultra combo, flawless victory.
@RottingOrange
Who exactly is asking for webOS on a tablet? Nobody. HP just bought Palm. You think they're going to be able to build a webOS tablet within the next week or two? Performance from using what? Somehow everyone thinks you can just slap a device and mobile OS together and build a world-beater in a month. It doesn't work like that. Not even if you throw millions of dollars into it. HTC might be able to do it because they have a diverse knowledge of mobile development, but not HP. HP doesn't have a clue about mobile. Palm's teams might, but that remains to be seen.
@RottingOrange YOU still have hope???? hahahhaahaha...let's face it, we'll have to wait another year for the so called iPad killer....
@MosesusedaniPad
Welcome WebOS! Did you get lost on the way?
@who said what
And oh yes, WebOS... one more thing...
Now that you are here... rest a while and get some new hardware... and you can do a lot more justice to your name!
@B3ASTx3
whew.. apple killed 2 birds without even throwing a stone..
the power of god jobs?? :D..
Bring back the courier....
@HowardtheDuck
iPad = Clear winner.
We all knew it was going to happen, just not so soon!
NooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@kapryt
Wow, you are pretty dumb! You should wait before you hit that 'post' button.
What in the HECK? I have to say I'm deeply disappointed by this and the Courier news... especially the Courier news; I really thought I was going to be getting one of those. :(
I wonder what's going on here from an economic perspective. Are they looking at iPad sales numbers and thinking: there's not enough of a demand? Are they looking at iPad numbers and thinking: Apple's already cornered this market? I suspect that the former is more likely than the latter; despite these recent news items, I still have no desire to own an iPad, so....
Meh, I'm still waiting for my Mirasol Win 7 tablet anyway....
@kapryt
Yes, HP hangs like a dark depressing cloud all over the place, but less and less thank heavens.
People are waking up to the fact you can ENJOY working on your machines. There's no need to suffer Microsoft and their cronies any more.
@MosesusedaniPad
Well said! The Joojoo is still selling somewhere, to all ten of its customers.
@Beatnik
Why is everyone having Tablet ABORTIONS!! Why tech god WHY?!?! Are there no Catholics in tech world!!1
@beckhams777 Well, according to most financial news sites earlier this week, HP is putting the Slate on hold until it integrates Palm, but it's going to take at least until the fall of this year just to do this integration. After that, they expect at least a year of development before seein WebOS on ANY device, which means next winter is probably the earliest you'll see the WebOS slate.
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-doesnt-have-to-worry-about-the-hp-slate-anymore-2010-4
@B3ASTx3
Proves that Apple has nearly perfected the time-to-market and product media-info-manipulation business of selling tech. It's sort of like breaking out of the Mhz/Ghz wars back in the day... that MS started.
MS is truly in the hot seat to perform. Windows 7 is a gonna be a short lease on life.
@HowardtheDuck I wonder where all the people That a couple months ago stated That the the slate would have full windows 7 and that's what they want in a tablet.
@recharged95: Windows 7 short lease? Yep... by far MS's fastest selling OS is DOOMED!
Not necessarily a bad news if HP has decided to take a step back to re-evaluate its arsenal and come up with better hardware+software (Slate+WebOS) combo to assault Apple's hot-selling iPad in near future.
Same thing with MS... who knows what component of Courier are they not willing to commit to - dual-screen form factor or the OS? Or both? If both, can some hand me some tissues to wipe my tears :((
@B3ASTx3
Please, nothing could kill the iPad. What other company could convince people to purchase a peripheral as if it were a stand-alone computer?
@HowardtheDuck First MS halted the production of the courier tablet (sad) Now, HP is leaving windows for the production of their webOS powered slate (I'm sad for windows, but I'm happy for palm) Reactions to the hp slate of ces. http://j.mp/hp-slate-first-concepts
@Narutogrey -- "but it's going to take at least until the fall of this year just to do this integration. After that, they expect at least a year of development before seein WebOS on ANY device, which means next winter is probably the earliest you'll see the WebOS slate."
Exactly.
Palm has a couple of pretty cool phones... the Pre and Pixi. They are now on 2 carriers in the US with one more carrier soon... and they practically went out of business. HP swooped in and saved them.
I can't imagine developers jumping on board to start making WebOS apps for a new tablet... since the phone platform didn't make them do it. And everybody needs a phone.
But, who knows. A year and a half later... maybe a WebOS tablet will do well.
But, by that time... there will be a few million iPads in the world.
Everyone hated the iPad... and set their hopes on the Windows HP Slate and the Courier. Now both of those products have been scrapped... but the iPad is still here.
Now people are betting on the NotionInk Adam... and the yet to be announced WebOS tablet.
It's the shipping product vs. the future product... once again.
@Groggle
So Groggle, you are waiting for the two products that have been cancelled today? Interesting dedication you show. Or was that supposed to be sarcasm?
This and the Courier news is upsetting for sure.
@MosesusedaniPad Gee.. I'm pretty sure I'm not stupid by wanting a faster, lighter version of the HP TC1100 that I love so much. And the OS I'm running on the 1.1GHz 2GB RAM slate? Windows 7 Ultimate. It runs just fine. Sure, it isn't as fast as my quad core desktop, but definitely usable.
I've got no problem with a multi-touch slate PC - I'm sure it would be nice, but without that active digitizer & stylus, not useful for anything beyond surfing and movies. For digital art and OneNote, only a stylus will do.
Am I in the minority? Maybe. Am I stupid for wanting one? Definitely not.
@HowardtheDuck
WOW just look at the fanboys celebrating for unconfirmed rumors, such a victorious day for them. Even so, it is still too early too celebrate, Microsoft is like the terminator, he will say to you, "I'll be back"
Double kill indeed. Steve used teh rail gun.
@RottingOrange Palm just got bought out by another company. No matter how you wanna put it, it is not really a good week. Well, I know the company was dying and all, but no company would really wanna loose itself.
@HowardtheDuck
Bad week for Microsoft? They just released excellend earnings and slyly licensed technology to HTC for the Androids! I'd say things are going pretty well for them and their future plans.
@Ryan Deen
Dude, I just googled doubletwist then downloaded it.
It is awesome. How did I not know about this for my Pre.
Thanks!